Thoughts and opinions....

Mhogs

Mhogs

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Roughly 3rd actual week of flower. White widow and headband.
Advanced nutrients-grow,micro,bloom, also using moab. 5 gallon dwc, 2 "1500watt" led lights 12-15in above canopy, 3x3 tent. 4in inline fan. Circulating ground fan, diy co2(yeast and sugar water). Ph 5.8-6.0. Ppm 1350-1500. Pending feeding day. I feed after every third top off of ph'd 5.9 water. Ppm of top off water is 135. I supplement with AN micro for calmag. Temps stay at 77-80 with lights on, and 69-71 with lights off. No light leaks, I've checked this a few times. Tent is inside a spare laundry room that we dont use.
I did a leaf defoliation week before flip. I feel like my plants have stalled out for some reason.
Plenty of bud sites, tons of white hairs and trichs present on both plants. But no movement the last week or so.

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StareCase

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Quite a difference in the height of each strain. You would have just finished the flower stretch so the any upward growth will have stopped. At three weeks of flower it doesn't look like much is happening but those buds should begin to fatten.

12" - 15" seems a bit close. I had some "not as good" results with my blurples at 14" above. Have had much better success with them at 18" and moving them up to 22" during the final couple of weeks of flowering. Are you seeing any cupping and/or white tips on the fan leaves closer to the light?
 
Mhogs

Mhogs

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StareCase said:
... and who makes those "1500 watt" LED's? Do you know the true wattage of them?
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Thanks for the reply.
I haven't had any issues with leaf cupping or any kind of leaf/tip bleaching. Yeah, the headband on the right seems to be a bit more sativa. Widow on the left. I vegged both under a "yehsence 1500watt" actual draw is 265. It uses Triple-Chip Bridgelux LEDs 15W. That light is now over the widow. I purchased a second light for flowering. This light is the Fineest 1500watt reflector series from Kingled and its actual draw is 300-325 I think with both veg/bloom on. They use Epistar double LED chips.
I am flowering with both lights using dual spectrum for max draw.
 
aphyllophoral

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Hello guys, I want to migrate from top soil to hydro but I am a little bit scared of the costs specially doing bottom fed on F&D set up. How much do you invest in chemicals doing an hydro?? At this moment I produce 2 lb. Every month

Have a great day
 
Mhogs

Mhogs

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aphyllophoral said:
Hello guys, I want to migrate from top soil to hydro but I am a little bit scared of the costs specially doing bottom fed on F&D set up. How much do you invest in chemicals doing an hydro?? At this moment I produce 2 lb. Every month

Have a great day
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Maybe start your own thread and ask...?
But posting this in my thread probably won't help you out much...
 
StareCase

StareCase

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Mhogs said:
... posting this in my thread probably won't help you out much ...
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He/she started their own thread. I agree that you don't hijack someone else's.
Mhogs said:
... I vegged both under a "yehsence 1500watt" actual draw is 265. It uses Triple-Chip Bridgelux LEDs 15W. That light is now over the widow. I purchased a second light for flowering. This light is the Fineest 1500watt reflector series from Kingled and its actual draw is 300-325 I think with both veg/bloom on. They use Epistar double LED chips. I am flowering with both lights using dual spectrum for max draw ...
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The entire cycle should be with VEG and BLOOM lights on. My Viparspectra LED's use the Epistar and Bridgelux chips and 2 of them put out 520 true watts in a 2 x 4. They also had 5 IR diodes in each so when I was at 14", perhaps the IR were causing some issues. No issues at 18".

When I look at the couple of pics that show your bud a bit closer, that's about the size of them at 3 weeks of flower. The white hairs are poking out but there's not much meat on them yet. Week 4 onward is when they put on some major beef.
Mhogs said:
... Yeah, the headband on the right seems to be a bit more sativa. Widow on the left ...
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It does seem much more sativa. The YIN and the YANG. I see you have a net but it looks like it's only being used as a support trellis. For a better use of a net, check out the SCROG method. It's a very good way of maintaining a more even canopy and increasing yields.
 
Mhogs

Mhogs

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StareCase said:
He/she started their own thread. I agree that you don't hijack someone else's.

The entire cycle should be with VEG and BLOOM lights on. My Viparspectra LED's use the Epistar and Bridgelux chips and 2 of them put out 520 true watts in a 2 x 4. They also had 5 IR diodes in each so when I was at 14", perhaps the IR were causing some issues. No issues at 18".

When I look at the couple of pics that show your bud a bit closer, that's about the size of them at 3 weeks of flower. The white hairs are poking out but there's not much meat on them yet. Week 4 onward is when they put on some major beef.

It does seem much more sativa. The YIN and the YANG. I see you have a net but it looks like it's only being used as a support trellis. For a better use of a net, check out the SCROG method. It's a very good way of maintaining a more even canopy and increasing yields.
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Yeah, I planned on having them both the same height as the widow. But when I flipped. The headband blew up. The trellis right now is just used to space the the branches out on the headband so I get better light penetration. It can be raised as weight gets put on and they need support instead of spacing. The second light came into play when the headband took off. Figured I needed more coverage. I have used both veg/bloom for entire grow cycle. Both lights also have IR diodes in them maybe 3-5 each.
Well, I guess we'll see what the following weeks bring. Thanks for the input!
 
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