Those poor rapists

mellokitty

mellokitty

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statistically speaking, the FBI maintains a false accusation rate of 2-8% in rape cases.
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except the FBI also believes that only 37% of rapes are actually reported, making the chart look more like this:
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and then, according to RAINN.org (the rape, abuse & incest national network) 9% of total cases (just shy of 20% of reported cases) go to trial and 3% of total cases (just shy of 7% of reported) see any jailtime, thus if you round the above pie chart up to 4% and adjust for those figures it starts to look like this:

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just shy of 1.5%. according to the FBI again, the average rate of false criminal accusation in general is 2%. i think it's pretty telling of society in general that every time a widely publicized rape case comes up, there's always some apologist saying "yeah well they deserve the punishment (IF they did it) but what if the bitch just changed her mind?" but rarely such similar apologists for murder, assault, robbery, etc. when you're just as, if not more likely, to be falsely accused of any of those. which in turn contributes to the vicious cycle of less victims feeling comfortable enough to report they've been raped, and more rapists going scot-free.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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mellokitty said:
statistically speaking, the FBI maintains a false accusation rate of 2-8% in rape cases.
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except the FBI also believes that only 37% of rapes are actually reported, making the chart look more like this:
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and then, according to RAINN.org (the rape, abuse & incest national network) 9% of total cases (just shy of 20% of reported cases) go to trial and 3% of total cases (just shy of 7% of reported) see any jailtime, thus if you round the above pie chart up to 4% and adjust for those figures it starts to look like this:

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just shy of 1.5%. according to the FBI again, the average rate of false criminal accusation in general is 2%. i think it's pretty telling of society in general that every time a widely publicized rape case comes up, there's always some apologist saying "yeah well they deserve the punishment (IF they did it) but what if the bitch just changed her mind?" but rarely such similar apologists for murder, assault, robbery, etc. when you're just as, if not more likely, to be falsely accused of any of those. which in turn contributes to the vicious cycle of less victims feeling comfortable enough to report they've been raped, and more rapists going scot-free.
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My take on this is that the woman has the right to say No. A civilized man will honor that No, even if he's in full horn. I grant that accepting the No at that point is inconvenient and might even be called a test of character.
I see the bolded as a sneaky way of saying "I do not want the burden of accepting No unconditionally." It strikes me as reprehensible self-indulgence. Jmo. cn
 
Harrekin

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cannabineer said:
My take on this is that the woman has the right to say No. A civilized man will honor that No, even if he's in full horn. I grant that accepting the No at that point is inconvenient and might even be called a test of character.
I see the bolded as a sneaky way of saying "I do not want the burden of accepting No unconditionally." It strikes me as reprehensible self-indulgence. Jmo. cn
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It's the same reason the death penalty is unacceptable IMO, it's not worth killing 1000 rapo serial killers if even 1 innocent person gets the chair.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Harrekin said:
It's the same reason the death penalty is unacceptable IMO, it's not worth killing 1000 rapo serial killers if even 1 innocent person gets the chair.
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My cavil with the death penalty has to do with who assesses/performs it. An individual is capable of a crime of passion, but a government should not be allowed that out. cn
 
fb360

fb360

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Figong said:
I'm Italian, it wouldn't just be 1 gunshot.. they'd be the last one shot as their life collapsed around them with death and pain if that were my daughter.
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You misunderstood me, but I understand your feelings.

I would only kill those who falsely accuse another of rape. The reason being: rape is a serious crime; you WILL lose a lot of your life in prison; rapists are not treated kindly in prison, and you have a good chance to being killed or mutilated; you want to destroy someone elses life on a lie, you deserve to die. I would say the exact same for falsely accusing and getting another committed for murder.
 
Figong

Figong

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fb360 said:
You misunderstood me, but I understand your feelings.

I would only kill those who falsely accuse another of rape. The reason being: rape is a serious crime; you WILL lose a lot of your life in prison; rapists are not treated kindly in prison, and you have a good chance to being killed or mutilated; you want to destroy someone elses life on a lie, you deserve to die. I would say the exact same for falsely accusing and getting another committed for murder.
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I agree, and follow now - have been trying not to post when 3/4 asleep like I am at this very moment so I don't mistranslate/completely miss the focus of the question or statements.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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fb360 said:
You misunderstood me, but I understand your feelings.

I would only kill those who falsely accuse another of rape. The reason being: rape is a serious crime; you WILL lose a lot of your life in prison; rapists are not treated kindly in prison, and you have a good chance to being killed or mutilated; you want to destroy someone elses life on a lie, you deserve to die. I would say the exact same for falsely accusing and getting another committed for murder.
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Do you think you could do it personally? Actually kill someone who falsely accused someone of rape I mean..

Falsely accusing someone of rape is bad, really bad, probably one of the worst things someone could do.. but do you think it justifies murder? Does a person who falsely accuses someone of raping them deserve to be killed, and if so, is it really justified? Under all circumstances? Is there no moral exception to falsely accusing someone of rape?

..I think this is why classes on philosophy and human morality are so important. I can think of at least one moral justification for falsely accusing someone of rape.
 
fb360

fb360

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Padawanbater2 said:
Do you think you could do it personally? Actually kill someone who falsely accused someone of rape I mean..

Falsely accusing someone of rape is bad, really bad, probably one of the worst things someone could do.. but do you think it justifies murder? Does a person who falsely accuses someone of raping them deserve to be killed, and if so, is it really justified? Under all circumstances? Is there no moral exception to falsely accusing someone of rape?

..I think this is why classes on philosophy and human morality are so important. I can think of at least one moral justification for falsely accusing someone of rape.
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Most likely. Simply put. I only wouldn't be able to if I wasn't sure. Otherwise, yeah, and I wouldn't just put a bullet in their head either.

Moral justification for ruining someones life, and most likely getting them killed or beaten/scarred? No, I do not think so. The only moral justification I can find equal to falsely accusing someone of rape, is if that person is actually raping people, which is a fallacy because then it wouldn't be a false accusation...

Do you comprehend how fast that will get rid of false rape accusations? Killing two birds with one stone imo.
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Harrekin said:
It's the same reason the death penalty is unacceptable IMO, it's not worth killing 1000 rapo serial killers if even 1 innocent person gets the chair.
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Agreed. I think if we took off their balls, that would be a fair punishment. No?
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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Harrekin said:
Dude, there's even "chemical sterilisation" now.

No choppy choppy involved, far more "humane" for the lefties.
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Thats a little to "humane"...;-) giving rapists a vaginoplasty to "stop those urges" then putting them into general population would be fitting...
At least some lucky prisoner would have half a bitch to do his laundry... :lol:
 
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