This is going to sound crazy...

JMallgren

JMallgren

Member
I’m about a week from harvest and it always makes me think when I see a fan leave draped across some buds on an adjacent branch of the same plant. Funny thing is, I dont even smoke pot, tried it 10-12 times in high school and hated it every time so I haven’t smoked since and I’m 43 now. The reason I had To make that statement is because the next thing I’m about to say is going to sound like I’m faded but I’m dead sober so maybe I’m just nuts. Anyway, does anyone know if the plant sees the different Bud sites it has as competitors for pollen or is it cool as long as it’s pollinated somewhere? I just Think it looks weird when an adjacent branch has a fan leaf way out there posted up right in front of another Bud putting it in the dark. If the plan for the plant was to make its buds sticky as possible, why would it shade it’s own buds? Not to mention, each Bud has to get pollinated for it to make seeds. I don’t know, anyone ever been a cannabis plant before?
 
Wastei

Wastei

Well-Known Member
We usually defoliate throughout the grow to combat this to certain degree. You want to create an even canopy with many tops. To bring up the lower branches and side shoot we use nets, PGR's, hormones and supercropping techniques.

I always do partial harvest. I don't defoliate as aggressively as many others do. I cut down everything's mature and flower the rest for another 2-3 weeks. You don't harvest unripe tomatoes, Cannabis is not different in this regard.

Only time I defoliate aggressively is when I run scrog net. Cheers!
 
ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

Well-Known Member
Wastei said:
We usually defoliate throughout the grow to combat this to certain degree. You want to create an even canopy with many tops. To bring up the lower branches and side shoot we use nets, PGR's, hormones and supercropping techniques.

I always do partial harvest. I don't defoliate as aggressively as many others do. I cut down everything's mature and flower the rest for another 2-3 weeks. You don't harvest unripe tomatoes, Cannabis is not different in this regard.

Only time I defoliate aggressively is when I run scrog net. Cheers!
Click to expand...
Interesting. I've heard about this but never knew anyone to do partial harvests.
Have you ever had issues with the remaining portion turning hermie and pollinating?
Have you seen a significant increase in yields?
 
Wastei

Wastei

Well-Known Member
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
Interesting. I've heard about this but never knew anyone to do partial harvests.
Have you ever had issues with the remaining portion turning hermie and pollinating?
Have you seen a significant increase in yields?
Click to expand...
Nope, never happened. Steve Tuck introducing it to me many years ago. Made sense then, still make sense to me. Healthy plants can tolerate a lot stress.

People's gonna argue this to the infinity but for me more ripe flowers equals less larf. Higher yield as result. Cheers!
 
ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

Well-Known Member
Wastei said:
Nope, never happened. Steve Tuck introducing it to me many years ago. Made sense then, still make sense to me. Healthy plants can tolerate a lot stress.

People's gonna argue this to the infinity but for me more ripe flowers equals less larf. Higher yield as result. Cheers!
Click to expand...
So you just chop the top colas and let the rest keep riding? I'll have to look it up more
I scrog so my canopy is usually pretty short anyway though
 
P

piratebug

Well-Known Member
Yeah as Wastei said, the partial harvest is always the way to go, because even though you may get your canopy completely even right before you flip, most of the side branch below the fifth or six nodes from the tops will never reach the canopy after the stretch, so those lower tops will always still be underdeveloped when the canopy and 5 or 6 nodes below them are done. So you chop the tops down to about 5 or 6 nodes down, then lower your light to let those lower tops finish out nicely! And they will swell up bigtime!
 
ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

Well-Known Member
piratebug said:
Yeah as Wastei said, the partial harvest is always the way to go, because even though you may get your canopy completely even right before you flip, most of the side branch below the fifth or six nodes from the tops will never reach the canopy after the stretch, so those lower tops will always still be underdeveloped when the canopy and 5 or 6 nodes below them are done. So you chop the tops down to about 5 or 6 nodes down, then lower your light to let those lower tops finish out nicely!
Click to expand...
My last grow didn't even hardly have 6 nodes above the screen haha
Screenshot_20210125-235932_Drive.jpg
I'm about to flip tomorrow though on my current and my canopy will probably be 18" tall this time
Screenshot_20210126-141139_Gallery.jpg
 
P

piratebug

Well-Known Member
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
My last grow didn't even hardly have 6 nodes above the screen haha
View attachment 4808665
I'm about to flip tomorrow though on my current and my canopy will probably be 18" tall this time
View attachment 4808666
Click to expand...

Very nice, but for a SOG style grow, you shouldn't ever have to do what I was saying because you should only have tops with 3 or 4 nodes under those tops. But for a lazy-mans grow, like a single top grow, two stage harvesting will get you so much more rock-hard bud!
 
JMallgren

JMallgren

Member
How many plants made all those colas in the top picture? I wish my canopies looked that uniform and even! Mine is always all over the place so I end
Up sorting them by height throughout the grow. Here is a couple of my latest. The first two pics are Mendo Breath and they are awesome. They stay pretty short and it’s the the prettiest plant I’ve ever grown. The last one is Pineapple Tart and I think it looks pretty good too?



Up 6DF0A32A-1DD5-4BF6-9013-C3AB661B7ACD.jpeg
76A9D98B-982E-49AF-A37B-9DD8C4F1F8A5.jpeg
ACA048B6-B380-437D-ADC5-B62B51971B27.jpeg
 

Attachments

Mrs. Weedstein

Mrs. Weedstein

Well-Known Member
JMallgren said:
How many plants made all those colas in the top picture? I wish my canopies looked that uniform and even! Mine is always all over the place so I end
Up sorting them by height throughout the grow. Here is a couple of my latest. The first two pics are Mendo Breath and they are awesome. They stay pretty short and it’s the the prettiest plant I’ve ever grown. The last one is Pineapple Tart and I think it looks pretty good too?



Up View attachment 4818660
View attachment 4818668
View attachment 4818669
Click to expand...
Beautiful. So the plants are Mendo Breath and the bud is Pineapple Tart?
 
bernie344

bernie344

Well-Known Member
piratebug said:
Yeah as Wastei said, the partial harvest is always the way to go, because even though you may get your canopy completely even right before you flip, most of the side branch below the fifth or six nodes from the tops will never reach the canopy after the stretch, so those lower tops will always still be underdeveloped when the canopy and 5 or 6 nodes below them are done. So you chop the tops down to about 5 or 6 nodes down, then lower your light to let those lower tops finish out nicely! And they will swell up bigtime!
Click to expand...
Is this a good candidate for the partial?2.jpg
 
mistergrafik

mistergrafik

Well-Known Member
Partial harvest 4 me also - I think many time the lows get frostier than some tops because they develop much slower and under much less intensity (until exposed) but they do lack abit of density.

Sometimes though they develop it’s like... the perfect density. Has me playing into shade clothing and also ambient lighting. The lows are important idk why everyone cuts them off.
 
ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

Well-Known Member
JMallgren said:
How many plants made all those colas in the top picture? I wish my canopies looked that uniform and even! Mine is always all over the place so I end
Up sorting them by height throughout the grow. Here is a couple of my latest. The first two pics are Mendo Breath and they are awesome. They stay pretty short and it’s the the prettiest plant I’ve ever grown. The last one is Pineapple Tart and I think it looks pretty good too?



Up View attachment 4818660
View attachment 4818668
View attachment 4818669
Click to expand...
Just 4 plants bud, beauty of a ScrOG

I love the purple on that, I hope to get some dark colors out of my GDP
Here they are a couple days ago,
Screenshot_20210206-000545_Gallery.jpg
 
shroomhaze

shroomhaze

Well-Known Member
Damn growing all that good good and not touching it. Give it a try again you grow beautiful plants fairly frosty too! Take a couple puffs and see if you like it bongsmilie
 
JMallgren

JMallgren

Member
Has anyone tried using UVB for trichome production? I think I’m going to add that because it makes sense to me but if anyone has any direct experience, would be cool to hear about it...
 
Wastei

Wastei

Well-Known Member
JMallgren said:
Has anyone tried using UVB for trichome production? I think I’m going to add that because it makes sense to me but if anyone has any direct experience, would be cool to hear about it...
Click to expand...
I would go for UVA instead. You can use more of it and get better results. It's a little tricky using UVB without losing yield and overall plant health. UVA also travels through glass while UVB don't. Cheers!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top