this is for all my EXP. growers and the begginers might as well read too

smokintreez

Well-Known Member
I have learned so much from RIU and all the members here. Everyone of us was inexperienced at some point(whether it was before they were a member of RIU or not) and alot of people still are. I just use this site for what it is. I read, post and start threads that apply or help myself and/or others the best i can.......... Now, WHAT DO YOU THINK MY YIELD WILL BE off 8 plants with 2 60watt CFLs??? just kidding RIU
 

EdGreyfox

Well-Known Member
Thanks Hiesman, appreciate the response. I knew there had to be some sort of catch to revegging or everyone would be doing it constantly. I mean, why pay for seeds or do clones if you can just keep the same set of plants producing forever?
 

hellbelly

Active Member
Thanks Hiesman, appreciate the response. I knew there had to be some sort of catch to revegging or everyone would be doing it constantly. I mean, why pay for seeds or do clones if you can just keep the same set of plants producing forever?
You can re veg the same plants/clones going forever. Only plants that are predisposed to be hermaphrodites will go hermie. True females will not.
 

IAm5toned

Well-Known Member
actually when i make a mother, i will force it to flower to dbl check sex for a week or 10days, then reveg it just to get the crazy branching required for lotsa clone sites. yeah, you will loose a month in production on the plant, but the end result works great for my needs. compact bushes with literally hundreds of nodes, 18-20 inches tall at this point, stem prolly 5/8-3/4 at its base
 

srodden1

Member
I think of RIU as a kind of school too. Ive been reading everything on this site about growing for the past year (had to switch usernames a couple times because of moving and forgetting password, ha). Had a couple bad harvest, but if it wasn't for all the experienced growers working to expand the community then id be just like every Johnny Ganja seed throwing bag seed everywhere and getting confused why nothing's popping up.
Thats why i just want to say thanks to everyone for taking some time to teach us, and for some of you who take ALOT of time to teach us. lol
 

sambo020482

Well-Known Member
yeah a big thank you to all the guys who speak sense, dont bitch and give good advice. Im learning more and more.

thanks again from the U.k
 

Hiesman

Well-Known Member
You can re veg the same plants/clones going forever. Only plants that are predisposed to be hermaphrodites will go hermie. True females will not.
ok.... this would be the classic example of a BEGGINER trying to sway someone into doing something that is not true.. There is no evidence of re-vegging a plant "forever"
 

hellbelly

Active Member
ok.... this would be the classic example of a BEGGINER trying to sway someone into doing something that is not true.. There is no evidence of re-vegging a plant "forever"
This is correct. There is no evidence of re-vegging a plant "forever", that would take forever. There is however no evidence that it wouldn't work "forever". If it works once, it will work twice. If it works twice, it will work three times. And so on. There is no logical reason for it to stop working after an arbitrary amount of re-vegging cycles. Plants cannot count.
I'm not seeing how stating something that I thought was common knowledge could be interpreted as anything other than that. Sorry.
 

Hiesman

Well-Known Member
This is correct. There is no evidence of re-vegging a plant "forever", that would take forever. There is however no evidence that it wouldn't work "forever". If it works once, it will work twice. If it works twice, it will work three times. And so on. There is no logical reason for it to stop working after an arbitrary amount of re-vegging cycles. Plants cannot count.
I'm not seeing how stating something that I thought was common knowledge could be interpreted as anything other than that. Sorry.
bruh... read the original post... go ahead and try to do it more than once. You'll end up with a herm from stressing the plants light schedule soo many times as well as chopping it for its buds a multitude of times. Marijuana is an annual. One life cycle in one season. It's not an apple tree.

and what u stated isn't common knowledge, no need to apologize. It's just that your "theory" is way off the mark, and you shouldn't encourage someone they can do something when it's a gimmick.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
not all plants will hermy from stress. stable genetics are just that.

you can reveg plants without them herming.

after revegging once or twice the "trunks" start getting really "woody". it's best just to take cuttings, even if during full flowering.

you can reveg plants with very good success. i have done it numerous times.
 

Hiesman

Well-Known Member
not all plants will hermy from stress. stable genetics are just that.

you can reveg plants without them herming.

after revegging once or twice the "trunks" start getting really "woody". it's best just to take cuttings, even if during full flowering.

you can reveg plants with very good success. i have done it numerous times.
coming from a vet, i agree. but key words here "not all plants" so this being said... fdd has had success but boys n girls dont think you can have a never ending plant. 'its best just to take cuttings"
 

svchop889

Well-Known Member
Yeah I believe that I read on here somewhere early on that after 2-3 harvest of the same plant the 'trunks' become 'woody' like fdd said but they also decline in there ability to move water and nutrients because of the state of the 'trunk' and eventually the plant dies meanwhile the quality of the bud becomes lesser for the obvious reason. so if you wanted a more detailed description of why not there it is feel free to correct me if im wrong its been a bit since I read that info, but it makes sense to me. I wonder though if the reveg period was lengthened and certian things were supplied to the plant like sillica. if you could not exceed the typical 3 harvests? because dont stems harden off during flowering? and grow new tissue during veg?
 

DMG3528

Well-Known Member
This website and two paperbacks are all I had for my first harvest.
My .002 would be that you don't really need all of those different bottles you have grown comfortable buying for your "dankness".
My avatar was grown with BC bst, grw, and blm. and thats it. you don't need them.
The most important thing you need for a bumper harvest is KNOWLEDGE.
Do your research. Read everything you can and contemplate what you learn. Separate the info into keep and dump, just remember, If it sounds to good to be true, IT IS!
LOVE TO ALL.:peace:
 

FEElAYYY

Active Member
Amen to that! I've been bashed before over something real stupid. Didn't take it personal. But I did find some usefull friends on here that helped me out so I'm thankfull for that. As well people need to remember at one point they were a newb too. This thread should be sticky! Happy growing!
 

w1ckedchowda

Well-Known Member
I just want to say I first started here on RIU when I knew next to nothing.

Lots of kind and really informative people started helping me out, next to LOTS of researching and reading, trial and error like said above, RIU played a huge part in helping me learn.

Thank you riu and everyone who's helped me so far, you know who you are :wink:

Great post by the way man. +rep coming your way. :bigjoint:
 

qptyqpty

Active Member
Ah another opportunity to put in 2¢ (damn just realized there was no ¢ on my keyboard lol [alt+0162]).

I am not experienced by your definition, but so far I am at the tail end of my first harvest, about 2-3 weeks from my second, and my third is in vegetative mode.

I came to RIU and joined when I realized the information on this board was far better than the other websites available, UK420 etc. I had been smoking forever, but I had conjured up many many setups in my head theoretically, and logically, all of them would work, though some were far more complex than others. My first setup was on the cheap, but because I understand principles of growth, respiration, vitamins and minerals, photosynthesis, etc. I was able to make quick corrections when plants made an indication. Yada yada.... im smoking on some (appears to be) doctored bud so let me just spray some chloraseptic in my throat and ill just give ya my experience thus far.

[by the way: if you DOCTOR YOUR SHIT in any way, FUCK YOU. I dont give a flying fuck your reasons; If you need more money for personal greed, for food, if you have an AIDS baby that needs a lung transplant from Obama himself, do NOT be putting shit in MY SHIT. For example, I am out of my normal area and dont know anyone in the vicinity. I have to travel 2 hours for reliable dank. So I look at and smell, and taste and am satisfied. I get home and realize shit is harsher than normal, and has a different type of sparkle when I break it up. GOD DAMN YOU FUCKERS. I rigged up a 30x lens from a pair of binoculars to my cellphone to get a cheapo, instant macrolens and what did i see? SILICA. IRON OXIDE/ALUMINUM(?). BITS OF GOLD FOIL. BASICALLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRASH. So, I had to make a call to my bud who I had to explain that next time I am coming up there, I want to pay a visit to whomever his came from, and I am going to. I told him to emphatically explain that I know, that HE knows, and that the supplier should know that we both know, and that I dont spend 2 hours driving and more than $300 to consume something hazardous to my health. So I am practicing transference; I am going to become a hazard to this individuals health without his prior knowledge or permission. Considering this is criminal bizniz, I dont have to worry about the cops. BE FUCKING WARNED. GODDAMNIT YOU PIECES OF SHIT. This isnt the first time.)

[I can vape this garbage and be fine but if you torch it, the shit makes you feel wierd and different. Thank God himself I have a harvest right now or I would have made a special trip. I am so pissed off.]

Anyway, now that I have had my Vicks, here is how I have experienced it:

I started out with 6 of my best bagseed (had been saving the seeds for about 5 years now) planted in a cricket container with about 2" of MiracleGro in the windowsill. Only one made it through this ordeal and I named her oG -- original Ganja.

I had transferred oG to a styrofoam cup and had purchased a rubbermaid tub, an egg-crate planter setup from lowes, and rigged up a little hot-box. I put oG in under a 3-bulb 26w CFL bathroom vanity strip mounted into the rubbermaid container, and put 2-3 seeds in each of the egg-crates, to let the plants duke it out via Darwinism to see who would be the last standing. I believe I planted around 72 seeds, from varying "quality sifted" bags of bagseed. I intended on growing "sea of green." alas, how silly I was in the early days.

After having ridiculous amounts of trouble with keeping humidity and temperature levels constant, I continued research and plodded along. I wasnt too serious about the first grow since it was bagseed after all, I didnt plant on getting anything from it, and I was basically using it as hands on experience so I can learn from mistakes and have at least 4 plants under my belt before moving to a Euroseed. I ended up having four seedlings that were successful.

Around this time, I got the wise idea to try and work with rockwool. Well, after lots and lots of trying and killing my plants, i have determined rockwool is too hard for me at this point in time. I have wasted so many plants by killing them after about 2 weeks of germination/growth I have determined it is simply easier to plant the root-sprouts directly into miracle gro for the first 3 weeks, then wash the root ball in warm water to remove most of the debris and then transferring the plant to hydroponic.

I grow weary of telling you my life's story. Basically, I started out as a friggin newb thinking I could cheaply grow some good shit. I was wrong.

1) Put desired seed into a warm water-soaked, but not too-soaked, paper towel. Stick it in a ziploc bag, and put it under the bathroom sink for 2 days. Check it. If it has a root, put some miracle gro, or other cheap, shitty soil into a styrofoam mcdonalds sweet tea cup. NOT soil from your backyard. Any cheap shitty soil will work though. The styrofoam will help regulate temperature. Mcdonalds tea cups will keep iced tea cold for over 6 hours in hot sunny weather in my area, so that says enough for me. Poke a hole 1" deep with your finger, drop the seedling into the hole and cover up. Stab drain holes into bottom of cup.
2) slowly pour in warm water - enough for a little to come out of the bottom. Keep top of soil moist for next two weeks. No sopping wet, but put a little water in every morning, and sometime when you come home from work if the top is dry.
3) Make sure to put some kind of compact fluorescent light 1.5" from leaf surface, and adjust 2-3 times a day if necessary.
4)DONT FUCK WITH THEM TOO MUCH. STOP. Thats already too much.
5)DONT WORRY ABOUT HURTING THEM. Mother Earth and Mother Nature are bitches. They hardly give a fuck about individualism. You think that you accidentally bashing a branch and breaking it off will hurt your precious plant? Fuck that shit, where your branch broke two will most likely pop out. Yeah baby. Mary Jane is a kinky slut, so be a little abusive, they like it.
6)After a while, if you having been fucking with them, youll notice they are getting outright bushy for the little things they are. Well, this should be around 5 nodes or so. This tells you it is time for the little one to go to the next biggest pot. Do you need a bigger pot? Yes you do! at this point, you are not a cheap fucker, you will buy your plant what it needs:

Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor (if You dont already have some outlets installed) IMPORTANT!!!
Bucket
Bucket Basket - link is for a bag of 50, they cost no more than $2.00-$10.00
Hydroton
Air Pump - Bigger (more dissolved oxygen in water) is better
Air Tubing
5' section of 1'OD PVC pipe
(4) Four 1"OD PVC Elbows (fourth for 2-bucket setup)
(1) One 1" OD PVC Tee Joint (2 if you desire a more controllable reservoir emptying)
(1) 1" ID Ball Valve (2 if you desire a more controllable reservoir emptying)
Submersible Water Pump - If you are only growing 2 plants per reservoir, you do not need more than 400GPH.
20 Gallon Tub - I buy a bunch of these after christmas since they are on sale for around $3.00 - $15.00

400w Light Setup - @$160.00 dont be a chump. Learn some discipline and save your money so you can afford this setup. This is just the beginning. Buy 2 Phillips Son-Agro bulbs and save up the scratch while its in veg mode to buy a duplicate setup for your flowering stage. This, simply put, is the absolute most important part of your setup besides the seed or clone. I agree that CFL is a good strong light for people with space requirements but more light is always better and the difference between a HPS and a CFL makes att the difference in the world. As far as energy consumtpion, its only 400w. Turn off the computer and go outside. The electrical bill will LOWER even though you are growing pot. Dont worry about power consumption. Turn shit off and go outside. Socialize, volunteer. Feel me?

Non-Organic Recommendation: Dutch Masters Gold Grow A+B, Dutch Masters Gold Flowering A+B, Dutch Masters Penetrator Foliar Spray, and Dutch Masters Liquid Light Foliar Spray.
Organic: FoxFarm Nutrients, or Blue Mountain Organics Super Plant Tonic

I recommend use of these products. I feel the Dutch Masters is far superior to other nutes.

I also recommend use of SuperThrive at every watering, reservoir change, or whenever you think about it.

For quick emergency solutions, I strongly recommend having Revive onhand.

I also recommend these optional items (personally required for myself; I would not know how to live without:)Cost was not factored for these:
Graduated Measuring Cylinders As I understand it, our American coffee drinking, units of measurement, road driving preference, among other things, were devised simply to be in protest of England, therefore fuck that shit. I will go with what makes life easier, and that is by using METRIC SYSTEM. Convert grams to ounces and tablespoons to mL and what the fuck?? Do it all in mL. Read the label. Pour it in. Pour it out. Good.
Milwaukee TDS/pH/EC tester - runs on a single 9v battery, ive left this thing on so many times, and dropped it on numerous occasions I am surprised it isnt toast already. The cord for the lead is durable, and the handle is big and grippy when wet. After four months of use, it only needed a calibration of -0.2.
Fluker's Digital Hygrometer SIX years and this thing is still running strong on its first battery, left on ALL the time.

After getting all that shit together, you be ready. Put that shit together so it looks like this:




I have invested in a nice reflector so I put that in as my example. The link above is for a cheap reflector of aluminum which works fine, so who gives a fuck.

7) After you have all this shit, it amounts to somewhere around $373. As of 10:54am 03/07/2010. I went the expensive route and spent more than $1400 overall learning my lessons. I have 8 - 72" VHO Fluorescent tubes, About 30 42w CFL and several bathroom vanity fixtures, for lighting alone, and I have a bunch of tubs and buckets with drilled holes, PVC of varying sizes, you name it. Spend the $400 and buy what you NEED and dont peicemeal the shit together and only have to buy the right shit later.

8) As you are using the good expensive nutrients, and the good expensive lights, and your reservoir is changed weekly and disinfected with bleach, your roots should be fluorishing nicely, and pH should be steady between 5.8 and 6.0. So you monitor growth. Pluck fan leaves that are not getting light due to overhead canopy. This gives more air to the underside of the canopy, and allows more light from any reflective material (I use Reflective Insulation. I like insulation, especially when it is reflective.) Use your fingers and just break or pinch em off. If you mess up and pick off a cola branch no big deal, itll grow back and probably be better.

9) Leave the shit alone.

10) When your plant is the desired height, and you want it to start budding, buy a timer. Hook that light to it. Make it only on 12 hours a day. Bada Boom. Within 3 weeks later, you see little hairs, start counting that as first day of FLOWERING, YAY! If its a dude pull the bitchass. Rinse and repeat.

11) Change over to your flowering nutes and watch as they grow. I suggest the Screen of Green method. You can build anything with PVC pipe, so i used that and made a sort of table out of it, and weaved jute twine through holes drilled in the PVC.

Damn ive been typing till I wasnt high. Fuck. Im out.



Oh yeah, you guys that are acting like little kids, stop it, you look stupid. Pssh. Emo biatches.
 

b0bdyl4n420

Well-Known Member
shits expensive but i've noticed a huge difference between $5 mirale gro dirt, and $20 fox farm ocean forest soil. when i can afford it, i buy fox farm.
 

riddleme

Well-Known Member
Ah another opportunity to put in 2¢ (damn just realized there was no ¢ on my keyboard lol [alt+0162]).

I am not experienced by your definition, but so far I am at the tail end of my first harvest, about 2-3 weeks from my second, and my third is in vegetative mode.

I came to RIU and joined when I realized the information on this board was far better than the other websites available, UK420 etc. I had been smoking forever, but I had conjured up many many setups in my head theoretically, and logically, all of them would work, though some were far more complex than others. My first setup was on the cheap, but because I understand principles of growth, respiration, vitamins and minerals, photosynthesis, etc. I was able to make quick corrections when plants made an indication. Yada yada.... im smoking on some (appears to be) doctored bud so let me just spray some chloraseptic in my throat and ill just give ya my experience thus far.

[by the way: if you DOCTOR YOUR SHIT in any way, FUCK YOU. I dont give a flying fuck your reasons; If you need more money for personal greed, for food, if you have an AIDS baby that needs a lung transplant from Obama himself, do NOT be putting shit in MY SHIT. For example, I am out of my normal area and dont know anyone in the vicinity. I have to travel 2 hours for reliable dank. So I look at and smell, and taste and am satisfied. I get home and realize shit is harsher than normal, and has a different type of sparkle when I break it up. GOD DAMN YOU FUCKERS. I rigged up a 30x lens from a pair of binoculars to my cellphone to get a cheapo, instant macrolens and what did i see? SILICA. IRON OXIDE/ALUMINUM(?). BITS OF GOLD FOIL. BASICALLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRASH. So, I had to make a call to my bud who I had to explain that next time I am coming up there, I want to pay a visit to whomever his came from, and I am going to. I told him to emphatically explain that I know, that HE knows, and that the supplier should know that we both know, and that I dont spend 2 hours driving and more than $300 to consume something hazardous to my health. So I am practicing transference; I am going to become a hazard to this individuals health without his prior knowledge or permission. Considering this is criminal bizniz, I dont have to worry about the cops. BE FUCKING WARNED. GODDAMNIT YOU PIECES OF SHIT. This isnt the first time.)

[I can vape this garbage and be fine but if you torch it, the shit makes you feel wierd and different. Thank God himself I have a harvest right now or I would have made a special trip. I am so pissed off.]

Anyway, now that I have had my Vicks, here is how I have experienced it:

I started out with 6 of my best bagseed (had been saving the seeds for about 5 years now) planted in a cricket container with about 2" of MiracleGro in the windowsill. Only one made it through this ordeal and I named her oG -- original Ganja.

I had transferred oG to a styrofoam cup and had purchased a rubbermaid tub, an egg-crate planter setup from lowes, and rigged up a little hot-box. I put oG in under a 3-bulb 26w CFL bathroom vanity strip mounted into the rubbermaid container, and put 2-3 seeds in each of the egg-crates, to let the plants duke it out via Darwinism to see who would be the last standing. I believe I planted around 72 seeds, from varying "quality sifted" bags of bagseed. I intended on growing "sea of green." alas, how silly I was in the early days.

After having ridiculous amounts of trouble with keeping humidity and temperature levels constant, I continued research and plodded along. I wasnt too serious about the first grow since it was bagseed after all, I didnt plant on getting anything from it, and I was basically using it as hands on experience so I can learn from mistakes and have at least 4 plants under my belt before moving to a Euroseed. I ended up having four seedlings that were successful.

Around this time, I got the wise idea to try and work with rockwool. Well, after lots and lots of trying and killing my plants, i have determined rockwool is too hard for me at this point in time. I have wasted so many plants by killing them after about 2 weeks of germination/growth I have determined it is simply easier to plant the root-sprouts directly into miracle gro for the first 3 weeks, then wash the root ball in warm water to remove most of the debris and then transferring the plant to hydroponic.

I grow weary of telling you my life's story. Basically, I started out as a friggin newb thinking I could cheaply grow some good shit. I was wrong.

1) Put desired seed into a warm water-soaked, but not too-soaked, paper towel. Stick it in a ziploc bag, and put it under the bathroom sink for 2 days. Check it. If it has a root, put some miracle gro, or other cheap, shitty soil into a styrofoam mcdonalds sweet tea cup. NOT soil from your backyard. Any cheap shitty soil will work though. The styrofoam will help regulate temperature. Mcdonalds tea cups will keep iced tea cold for over 6 hours in hot sunny weather in my area, so that says enough for me. Poke a hole 1" deep with your finger, drop the seedling into the hole and cover up. Stab drain holes into bottom of cup.
2) slowly pour in warm water - enough for a little to come out of the bottom. Keep top of soil moist for next two weeks. No sopping wet, but put a little water in every morning, and sometime when you come home from work if the top is dry.
3) Make sure to put some kind of compact fluorescent light 1.5" from leaf surface, and adjust 2-3 times a day if necessary.
4)DONT FUCK WITH THEM TOO MUCH. STOP. Thats already too much.
5)DONT WORRY ABOUT HURTING THEM. Mother Earth and Mother Nature are bitches. They hardly give a fuck about individualism. You think that you accidentally bashing a branch and breaking it off will hurt your precious plant? Fuck that shit, where your branch broke two will most likely pop out. Yeah baby. Mary Jane is a kinky slut, so be a little abusive, they like it.
6)After a while, if you having been fucking with them, youll notice they are getting outright bushy for the little things they are. Well, this should be around 5 nodes or so. This tells you it is time for the little one to go to the next biggest pot. Do you need a bigger pot? Yes you do! at this point, you are not a cheap fucker, you will buy your plant what it needs:

Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor (if You dont already have some outlets installed) IMPORTANT!!!
Bucket
Bucket Basket - link is for a bag of 50, they cost no more than $2.00-$10.00
Hydroton
Air Pump - Bigger (more dissolved oxygen in water) is better
Air Tubing
5' section of 1'OD PVC pipe
(4) Four 1"OD PVC Elbows (fourth for 2-bucket setup)
(1) One 1" OD PVC Tee Joint (2 if you desire a more controllable reservoir emptying)
(1) 1" ID Ball Valve (2 if you desire a more controllable reservoir emptying)
Submersible Water Pump - If you are only growing 2 plants per reservoir, you do not need more than 400GPH.
20 Gallon Tub - I buy a bunch of these after christmas since they are on sale for around $3.00 - $15.00

400w Light Setup - @$160.00 dont be a chump. Learn some discipline and save your money so you can afford this setup. This is just the beginning. Buy 2 Phillips Son-Agro bulbs and save up the scratch while its in veg mode to buy a duplicate setup for your flowering stage. This, simply put, is the absolute most important part of your setup besides the seed or clone. I agree that CFL is a good strong light for people with space requirements but more light is always better and the difference between a HPS and a CFL makes att the difference in the world. As far as energy consumtpion, its only 400w. Turn off the computer and go outside. The electrical bill will LOWER even though you are growing pot. Dont worry about power consumption. Turn shit off and go outside. Socialize, volunteer. Feel me?

Non-Organic Recommendation: Dutch Masters Gold Grow A+B, Dutch Masters Gold Flowering A+B, Dutch Masters Penetrator Foliar Spray, and Dutch Masters Liquid Light Foliar Spray.
Organic: FoxFarm Nutrients, or Blue Mountain Organics Super Plant Tonic

I recommend use of these products. I feel the Dutch Masters is far superior to other nutes.

I also recommend use of SuperThrive at every watering, reservoir change, or whenever you think about it.

For quick emergency solutions, I strongly recommend having Revive onhand.

I also recommend these optional items (personally required for myself; I would not know how to live without:)Cost was not factored for these:
Graduated Measuring Cylinders As I understand it, our American coffee drinking, units of measurement, road driving preference, among other things, were devised simply to be in protest of England, therefore fuck that shit. I will go with what makes life easier, and that is by using METRIC SYSTEM. Convert grams to ounces and tablespoons to mL and what the fuck?? Do it all in mL. Read the label. Pour it in. Pour it out. Good.
Milwaukee TDS/pH/EC tester - runs on a single 9v battery, ive left this thing on so many times, and dropped it on numerous occasions I am surprised it isnt toast already. The cord for the lead is durable, and the handle is big and grippy when wet. After four months of use, it only needed a calibration of -0.2.
Fluker's Digital Hygrometer SIX years and this thing is still running strong on its first battery, left on ALL the time.

After getting all that shit together, you be ready. Put that shit together so it looks like this:




I have invested in a nice reflector so I put that in as my example. The link above is for a cheap reflector of aluminum which works fine, so who gives a fuck.

7) After you have all this shit, it amounts to somewhere around $373. As of 10:54am 03/07/2010. I went the expensive route and spent more than $1400 overall learning my lessons. I have 8 - 72" VHO Fluorescent tubes, About 30 42w CFL and several bathroom vanity fixtures, for lighting alone, and I have a bunch of tubs and buckets with drilled holes, PVC of varying sizes, you name it. Spend the $400 and buy what you NEED and dont peicemeal the shit together and only have to buy the right shit later.

8) As you are using the good expensive nutrients, and the good expensive lights, and your reservoir is changed weekly and disinfected with bleach, your roots should be fluorishing nicely, and pH should be steady between 5.8 and 6.0. So you monitor growth. Pluck fan leaves that are not getting light due to overhead canopy. This gives more air to the underside of the canopy, and allows more light from any reflective material (I use Reflective Insulation. I like insulation, especially when it is reflective.) Use your fingers and just break or pinch em off. If you mess up and pick off a cola branch no big deal, itll grow back and probably be better.

9) Leave the shit alone.

10) When your plant is the desired height, and you want it to start budding, buy a timer. Hook that light to it. Make it only on 12 hours a day. Bada Boom. Within 3 weeks later, you see little hairs, start counting that as first day of FLOWERING, YAY! If its a dude pull the bitchass. Rinse and repeat.

11) Change over to your flowering nutes and watch as they grow. I suggest the Screen of Green method. You can build anything with PVC pipe, so i used that and made a sort of table out of it, and weaved jute twine through holes drilled in the PVC.

Damn ive been typing till I wasnt high. Fuck. Im out.



Oh yeah, you guys that are acting like little kids, stop it, you look stupid. Pssh. Emo biatches.
I hope ya got some change back from that 2 cents???
 

qptyqpty

Active Member
heh, well, 79.2grams worth after a 10 day hang in the closet at 70F/35-40RH, no sticks, no seeds, manicured. That was oG. Currently on day 2 of cure in sealed glass jar and two small nugs is good. Wish I didnt pull so early though, but I had already inadvertently started flushing. Went with it and growth quit. Still, it smells strong and piney/minty and is a good head high. I figured you could get one plant going in this format for $371 at its cheapest. #2 is already 2x the size as oG was when cut down and still has white hairs and cloudy trics so a ways to go.

I hope I wasnt just babbling away at the aforementioned post; I just wanted to add to the anecdotal evidence. I already know my harvest will be over 3oz on #2, and I already FIM'd the Nirvana WW and have a total of 5 main colas (5) yep a nice little miracle. I strongly suggest FIM and screen techniques.

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