This Is Bullshit.

stoner_brownie_batter

stoner_brownie_batter

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So, I just germinated 4 seeds, all of them germinated, but I put them in the soil, and it was riding on a week from planting to now, so I dug them up, only to find that no progress was made. There was NO root structure, and they looked the same as when I put them in the dirt... not even 1/16 of an inch of the taproot was sprouted... this was the case with all 4... what the fuck went wrong? The soil is miracle grow, cut with a courter vermiculite, and a tbsp of blood meal.
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northerntights

northerntights

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You should NEVER, EVER use soil with fertilizer for seed germination, that is what halted the growth and most likely killed them. You used miracle grow AND added blood meal? Miracle grow is strong as it is but using blood meal was unnecessary and really overkill. Next time just use fert-free soil like Pro-Mix (just the plain stuff) and only use fertilizer after at least a couple of weeks. If you like to use fertilizer IN the soil simply transplant to that soil later on.
 
northerntights

northerntights

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Oh and if you like to use soil with the fertilizer in it may I suggest Fox Farm Starter Fertilizer? It's all organic, cheap (in comparison to the miracle grow soil) and has all the microorganisms to help your plants build a healthy root system. Plus it's great because the chances of burning your young plants roots is minimal and my plants LOVE it!

Plant Starter Fertilizers from Home Harvest Garden Supply
 
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kindprincess

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stoner_brownie_batter said:
So, I just germinated 4 seeds, all of them germinated, but I put them in the soil, and it was riding on a week from planting to now, so I dug them up, only to find that no progress was made. There was NO root structure, and they looked the same as when I put them in the dirt... not even 1/16 of an inch of the taproot was sprouted... this was the case with all 4... what the fuck went wrong? The soil is miracle grow, cut with a courter vermiculite, and a tbsp of blood meal.
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i have a feeling the true cause has yet to be revealed....

did you touch the seeds and tap roots with bare hands? if so, the oil on your fingers killed them. always use tweezers or forceps to move germinated beans from plate to medium.

other than that, all info provided in this thread is right on, you need little nutes when starting seeds.

kp
 
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fdd2blk

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what about those stupid seed maggots? i've had quite a few of them this year. the seed will pop the root about a 1/16th of an inch them the root maggots get it. i have physically seen them eating my freshly popped bean. i don't know where they come from because they have appeared in my paper towel, plugs and soil.
 
abudsmoker

abudsmoker

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fdd2blk said:
what about those stupid seed maggots? i've had quite a few of them this year. the seed will pop the root about a 1/16th of an inch them the root maggots get it. i have physically seen them eating my freshly popped bean. i don't know where they come from because they have appeared in my paper towel, plugs and soil.
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da little worms get me too. i think they come from god to eat the males!


KP i always touch my sprouted beans i guess i got lucky.
 
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kindprincess

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abudsmoker said:
da little worms get me too. i think they come from god to eat the males!


KP i always touch my sprouted beans i guess i got lucky.
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probably so, i use my hands too (always clean, mind you) but i'm careful to not touch the root tip, just the seed husk. plus, i have built in cheating devices....

fingernails!:mrgreen:
 
stoner_brownie_batter

stoner_brownie_batter

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northerntights said:
You should NEVER, EVER use soil with fertilizer for seed germination, that is what halted the growth and most likely killed them. You used miracle grow AND added blood meal? Miracle grow is strong as it is but using blood meal was unnecessary and really overkill. Next time just use fert-free soil like Pro-Mix (just the plain stuff) and only use fertilizer after at least a couple of weeks. If you like to use fertilizer IN the soil simply transplant to that soil later on.
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'Cause I didn't know that... o_O
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stoner_brownie_batter

stoner_brownie_batter

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northerntights said:
Oh and if you like to use soil with the fertilizer in it may I suggest Fox Farm Starter Fertilizer? It's all organic, cheap (in comparison to the miracle grow soil) and has all the microorganisms to help your plants build a healthy root system. Plus it's great because the chances of burning your young plants roots is minimal and my plants LOVE it!

Plant Starter Fertilizers from Home Harvest Garden Supply
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I've been trying to get my hands on some of that. Thanks for the information, but I knew the problem... I just didn't realize it. I've been pre-occupied, and a bit cloudy with family members movin' in and shit. But thanks.
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stoner_brownie_batter

stoner_brownie_batter

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kindprincess said:
i have a feeling the true cause has yet to be revealed....

did you touch the seeds and tap roots with bare hands? if so, the oil on your fingers killed them. always use tweezers or forceps to move germinated beans from plate to medium.

other than that, all info provided in this thread is right on, you need little nutes when starting seeds.

kp
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Nope. I'm flawless with putting it in the medium... I think It was the soil ph.
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stoner_brownie_batter

stoner_brownie_batter

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fdd2blk said:
what about those stupid seed maggots? i've had quite a few of them this year. the seed will pop the root about a 1/16th of an inch them the root maggots get it. i have physically seen them eating my freshly popped bean. i don't know where they come from because they have appeared in my paper towel, plugs and soil.
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I don't think it would be that, considering I put bleach on the paper towel, to stop such things. And fungus. But that has happened to me before.
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lynchburgball

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to be honest, i've germinated soooo many seeds and grown them from seedling in NOTHING but shitty soil w/ fertilizer already in it.
 
Lord Dangly Bits

Lord Dangly Bits

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Distilled Bleach? Is this something new I need to add to my grow? I am going out right now and buying some. How much do I add per 5 gallons of res? I have a 40 gallon Res. Would say 20 Oz's do the trick?

I have been wonder what I was doing wrong all these years.
 
hearmenow

hearmenow

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Stoner, next batch, instead of straight into soil, try inserting the germinated seed into peat moss disks (available everywhere very cheaply) until they sprout. Once they are a couple inches, then put the peat moss in your soil. But these guys are correct - no nutes the first few weeks.

I also have never heard of the bleach trick and probably won't be trying that anytime soon.
 
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