Thinking about ditching the trellis increasing my plant count and going a la natural

Thundercat

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Obviously it’s your call, but from what I’m seeing…..
Seems early to cut nutrients off, they don’t seem to be showing any signs of maturity yet so the end is many weeks out still. I wouldn’t cut off feeding until the plant is at least slowing its forward progression and in those last few weeks.
 

Thundercat

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I’m gonna go light with nutes for another week I’m sure these are gonna go past week 8
They look pretty healthy so I would just stay the course. If they are at 6 weeks now there is zero chance of them being properly done before 10 weeks. Like I mentioned in my last post I don’t see any signs of maturity.
 

Fatjoe

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I use individual screens. I call them floaters. Throw it on when ya start flower. Train them under for a week and let them go. Screen stays in place and supports growth.
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I like this method because I'm not locked in under a scrog frame but can get the same results. All of these have individual floaters and some are in different weeks in flower. But by being mobile I can pull them as ripen. Helps when your running multiple strains.
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NICK72690

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They look pretty healthy so I would just stay the course. If they are at 6 weeks now there is zero chance of them being properly done before 10 weeks. Like I mentioned in my last post I don’t see any signs of maturity.
I never took them to ten weeks they always had problems, this is the first time I also took the veg nutes to week 5 so I’ve never seen them this green this far in, they are fading but not as fast as usual, I usually do a week 8 harvest so kind of exciting to let them go farther
 

NICK72690

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I never took them to ten weeks they always had problems, this is the first time I also took the veg nutes to week 5 so I’ve never seen them this green this far in, they are fading but not as fast as usual, I usually do a week 8 harvest so kind of exciting to let them go farther
They usually look something like this yikes
 

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DOCTORDOOB

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So this round I’m thinking of taking a new approach, 12 plants 5 gal soil in my 5x5, minimal training, no more months of veg time, and having various plants at different stages, when some finish they get chopped and replaced with ones from the veg tent, thoughts? Effects on yield?just sick of the long veg time to completely fill a trellis canopy
Well how much weight have you been getting on average in the past with how you are running? I personally would do less veg, more plants, smaller pots... The last time I grew a few years ago the two strains I ran, I did them in one gallon pots, 12/12 from seed and the strain was a decent yielder and both strains were related so I got 1-2 oz per plant and the plants were small so I had a lot! I filled my 4x4 with 40 plants from seeds that were regular so I had to pull the males out once I could spot them. But still had about 28 plants.
I was just looking at a guys thread on another site and he's running 6 plants in half gallon pots in coco and he's pulling 78 grams per plant! Another guy just topped his plant to have four colas only and he trims all side branching that tried to grow sideways. He only allows them to grow upwards, not outwards and at the harvest his best plants was 171 grams with 4 long buds that looked like baseball bats
 

DOCTORDOOB

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Thanks for the responses! Just flipped to flower now, 12 of the same strain, will give them grow nutes for about the first three weeks then bloom, predictable stretch I been running this strain for years, will harvest one row at 8 weeks like usual and one row I wanna push to 10 weeks just to see, adding another row from the veg tent as I go! Under my Scorpion Diablo, will also be keeping mothers as I can take bigger clones from the well established plants, replacing a mother every 3 months or so
You could run 24-32 in one gallon pots and just put 6-8 every two weeks as you pull 6-8 no veg time so they would be solid buds, not much trim. If you only got 7 grams per plant that would still be an ounce or two every two weeks. If you had the goal of 14-28 per plant, and a strain capable, you could be getting 4-8 ounces every two weeks. With smaller plants and less veg, the plants will get more light, be quality buds and have basically no time for problems to happen trying to veg. Just a solid healthy seed or clone straight to flower. And the plant will finish all at once, early. Bigger plants take longer and the tops finish before the bottoms. Not sure how much you normally get from a scrog plant after waiting all that veg time. But imagine no veg and pulling 1-2 ounce per plant! The guy that taught me had small plants shorter than his knees with 4-8 ounce each plant!
 

NICK72690

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End of week 7 and I’ve found a few seeds, this strain never does that and is extremely discouraging, it is mostly in the lower bud but found one or 2 in some top buds, if this strain does not express itself like I know it can and I lose 2 crops in a row I have to take tents down and forget the hobby for now
 

medidedicated

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Could always get a small press make a crap ton flower rosin. Most people like dabs lol maybe not full time but better than smoking seeds. Hopefully it yields rosin I had strains yield nothing.
 
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