thinking about a grow room...

Thinking of starting a grow room. room will be prob 16X12 or 12x12. What should i be worried about?

Please no police jokes... I know the risk

Well I would use the 12 x 12 room for vegging and 16 x 12 for Flowering.

Just get a 1000W HPS light because of how big the room is.

Also seal off any window that can give light.

Smell would be a big issue, look into making your room smell proof via carbon scrubbers and fans

Look on youtube for Mr. green videos and watch those in order to see a grow room constructed in detail with lots of pointers and explanations. Thee are alot of videos about home growing which teach mostly the same things to watch.
That's plenty of space (12x12) to have fun in
I'm in the process of doing something in the same amount of space creating 2 tents made from a wood frame (some use PVC). Just make two closet like frames and use heavy mil lawn and leaf bags to block off all light.

Well i was thinking about spliting the room into complete veg/flowering foom. plastic seperating the sides.... but now youve got me thinking maybe i should go 2 rooms.... it would make everything much easier

Thanks!

puffpuffPASSEDOUT said:

Well i was thinking about spliting the room into complete veg/flowering foom. plastic seperating the sides.... but now youve got me thinking maybe i should go 2 rooms.... it would make everything much easier

Thanks!

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Two rooms might be easier if you have the room and time.

If you get a chance post up your step by step build in the grow area... I'm going to do that as soon as I finish the drywall and painting in my Kitchen and I can finish. I still have to clean the room down and get the duct work in the new room setup.
Good times!

iD TAKE A 8X10 ROOM WITH A 1000WATT HPS ON A LIGHT MOVER
AND A 8X10 ROOM WITH A 1000WATT MH ON A LIGHT MOVER,
X2 SCRUBBERS CAN FILTER 30 AND CAN FANS TO RUN THEN FOR
ODOR CONTROLL, iD PU 20 5 GAL POT IN EACH ROOM, THERES ALOT
MORE LITTLE STUFF TO GET BUT THATS THE MOST OF IT. NOW
THIS SETUP WILL TURN IF DONE RIGHT WITH THE RIGHT STRAIN
IT WILL GIVE YOU 8-9 QPS A MONTH, AND YOU CAN TRUST THOSE NUMBERS BEEN PROVIN FOR OVER 4 YEAR BY A NUMBER OF FRIENDS
OF MINE. GOOD LUCK AND KEEP YOUR ROOM SMALL FOR LIGHT SATCHERATION. AND TRIM THE FAN LEAVE OFF AFTER VEGG.

Lay off the caps.

Get ready to spend, that's all I can say. This could become much more expensive then you are anticipating. If you are ready to spend, definately do two rooms, your vegging room can be much smaller than your flowering room, don't waste precious flowering space by just splitting the room down the middle. 12x8 flowering room could run 2 1000 watters or 3 600's, light movers are a smart option as well if you can set it up properly and don't want to run as much electricity. a 5-6x12 vegging area would do just fine for a flowering room that size. But don't forget you are going to need space to store and mix nutes. As well as a space for drying and a place that you can sit for hours and hours and hours manicuring. Scent will be a major issue get the proper carbon filters for the space you are using and you will be fine and they will help with heat. Air cool all of your reflectors, and get co2, this is a big space and co2 is much worth it in a space that size. Your looking at spending between 3-5k to finish something of that calliber.

puffpuffPASSEDOUT said:

Well i was thinking about spliting the room into complete veg/flowering foom. plastic seperating the sides.... but now youve got me thinking maybe i should go 2 rooms.... it would make everything much easier

Thanks!

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With a 16x12 room you would have more than enough room for a decent size setup. you could either split it in two and make one room for vegging and the other for flowering or you could use the entire space for vegging and when your ready to flower use it to flower your plants. IMO you should split the room in two and that way you could get a perpetual harvest i.e. every couple weeks, every month every two months, etc.

for the vegging room i would suggest a high powered metal halide light or more than one, some sort of ventilation like some intake/outtake fans, maybe a carbon filter to reduce the smell, etc.

the flowering room needs to be light proof. you don't want any external light sources to be able to penetrate your flowering room or you could potentially mess up the cycle. again you'd want a high powered hps light or more than one, some ventilation, a carbon filter for smell.

Do yall really think i need to go with MH lights instead of some CFL's in the veg room? would i conserve electric with the MH? if so i may go with those because i know they will grow better plants.

i was thinking this room was gonna cost some money but I can handle 3k... I mean its easily going to pay for itself in a couple months

I wonder how much electricity 2 1000w hps and 2 600w MH lights will take each month? what do you think 200 a month just for electric fo rthe grow room? i only use maybe 100 total right now 110 on average anyone est my usage?

im shooting for atleast 20 plants for the flower side. On a hydro grow what should my yeild be with White widow and Blueberry? im thinking 1 1/2 lbs, what do you think?

Don't bother with cfl's on an op that size, it won't do you any good and will lower your yield, you need plants big and healthy enough to encounter 1000w lamps. Under 2 1000w lamps you should easily be able to pull in 1.5-2.5 lb's per harvest. I would run 2 banks 4 weeks apart and pull 1 lb per month out of the room. There is an electricity cost estimator somewhere on this site just do a search; it is a sticky at the top of one of the forums. If you can handle 3k go for it, it will definately be worth it. If this is your first grow be very prepared to put in a lot of work and have a few problems, a room this size is a lot of work and you will need to work out a lot of kinks throughout the grow.

I would do a small practice grow before investing too much and I would also check on how much electricity you use.
I actually heard ANOTHER story just yesterday about someone in our area getting caught due to their electric bill. That's how many people get caught and running the kind of watts you're talking might grab attention.
If your growing to augment your income you should calculate what it is you want to make $ and what an oz. is going for in your area.
Under a 400w hps with optimal conditions you can get close to 4 oz.'s per plant give or take. That would mean say 16oz. @ 300 per oz. = $4800 depending on the going rate in your area. So you don't need to go nuts to make a little cash.

greenjumble said:

I would do a small practice grow before investing too much and I would also check on how much electricity you use.
I actually heard ANOTHER story just yesterday about someone in our area getting caught due to their electric bill. That's how many people get caught and running the kind of watts you're talking might grab attention.
If your growing to augment your income you should calculate what it is you want to make $ and what an oz. is going for in your area.
Under a 400w hps with optimal conditions you can get close to 4 oz.'s per plant give or take. That would mean say 16oz. @ 300 per oz. = $4800 depending on the going rate in your area. So you don't need to go nuts to make a little cash.

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You simply will not get an lb off of 1 400w lamp in one harvest. You would be doing well to get half that.

If your genetics are good AK-47, Big Bud. If you have the space to allow your plant to get to size before flowering and you have great setup with hydro and CO2 you certainly can.
There are pics that rotate above where people have certainly gotten 4 oz.'s per plant especially with AK-47.

puffpuffPASSEDOUT said:

im shooting for atleast 20 plants for the flower side. On a hydro grow what should my yeild be with White widow and Blueberry? im thinking 1 1/2 lbs, what do you think?

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regrets said:

You simply will not get an lb off of 1 400w lamp in one harvest. You would be doing well to get half that.

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i think he meant harvesting 20 plants not just one or two

regrets said:

You simply will not get an lb off of 1 400w lamp in one harvest. You would be doing well to get half that.

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not to step on toes but I disegree with than a 400 on a light mover
would get you if done right with high number and good strain get you a
pound. Ive dun it and seen it dun no problem, now my last harvest
was 10 plants x2 600 on a mover and we got 12qps dried at harvest
this is a soil crop and they were large plants. the room is close to
perfect with co2/vented shields. the rooms are small you dont need
a large room to get large harvests but I perfer the veg to be the same as bud room to train them to one size room, this is what works for me.

puffpuffPASSEDOUT said:

Do yall really think i need to go with MH lights instead of some CFL's in the veg room? would i conserve electric with the MH? if so i may go with those because i know they will grow better plants.

i was thinking this room was gonna cost some money but I can handle 3k... I mean its easily going to pay for itself in a couple months

I wonder how much electricity 2 1000w hps and 2 600w MH lights will take each month? what do you think 200 a month just for electric fo rthe grow room? i only use maybe 100 total right now 110 on average anyone est my usage?

im shooting for atleast 20 plants for the flower side. On a hydro grow what should my yeild be with White widow and Blueberry? im thinking 1 1/2 lbs, what do you think?

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First off with a grow op that size, cfl's are a waste and a joke. 20plus plants goin you would need a shitload of cfl's to effectively spread out the light output. def get a 1000W mh or 2-600W for vegging. You could even use hps or get the switchable ballasts if so inclined.

second for the electric bill just add up your total wattage, divide by a thousand, and multiply by your rate and the total hours per day you have your lights on. also take into account your flower room only gets 12hrs light and veg room about 18hrs. So in your case, JUST the lights and assuming you pay 10 cents/kWh, it will be for hps 2000W/1000*12*0.10=$2.40 a day and for vegging room: 1200W/1000*18*.1=$2.16 a day which comes out to $4.56/day and about $136 a month. Remember this is based on a rate of 10cents/kWh. you should take your rate and plug it into my equations where you see the 0.10 to get your exact bill.

thirdly, you want 20 plants and about 1.5lbs. that works out to an oz per plant which is a very realistic goal if the growing conditions are optimal. if you have any growing experience you could expect 2oz or more per plant which could give you 2.5lbs.

good luck!