These girls look right?

tokm

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seedlings r 2 days old in 100% coco. The first leaves are all sorts of curled like my last seedlings which I lost to damping off. So far I gave a little pH 5.7 day old tap water and misted chamomile tea which was pHed to 5.7 as well. I have them under a single 23w 6500k CFL. Room is 77 and RH is 50%. I just don't want to lose another batch...
 

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Diabolical666

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put your finger in the soil knuckle deep, its its damp then dont water. top soil will always dry out faster, doesnt mean it needs watered . I give my seedlings a half of a measuring cup of water. thats it. then as the seedling dries out faster then I need to up the watering a bit, not much, not even to a cup of water till they get alot bigger
 

tokm

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put your finger in the soil knuckle deep, its its damp then dont water. top soil will always dry out faster, doesnt mean it needs watered . I give my seedlings a half of a measuring cup of water. thats it. then as the seedling dries out faster then I need to up the watering a bit, not much, not even to a cup of water till they get alot bigger
Ok I won't water at all for a few days at least. Thank u
 

rkymtnman

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a single layer of hydroton on top of the coco will help it from drying out as fast too. if you have any lying around. or perlite.
 

tokm

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it will, just water gently. hydroton and i should have said chunky perlite.
damn, i only have regular, non-chunky perlite. If for some crazy reason I don't screw these three up i'll transplant them in a few weeks to a hempy...
 

rkymtnman

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if you're kinda gentle with it, you should be all right. but i know what you mean, that stuff will float all over the place.

i run hempys too. are you planning on doing a coco hempy? i use growstones for my medium.
 

tokm

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if you're kinda gentle with it, you should be all right. but i know what you mean, that stuff will float all over the place.

i run hempys too. are you planning on doing a coco hempy? i use growstones for my medium.
Yes I want to do a 100% coco hempy. I have to get my seedlings going first though. If these three don't make it i'm saying goodbye to coco and picking up some fox farms
 

rkymtnman

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i don't want to jinx you but i hated coco. i was just doing some plants in smart pots and did not like how they built up nute salts.

i switched over to growstones in hempys and built an auto watering system and now i mix my nutes, set my pH, and don't touch anything for a week until i change out my res. can even go away on vacation for a week without worries. just my 2 cents.
 

tokm

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i don't want to jinx you but i hated coco. i was just doing some plants in smart pots and did not like how they built up nute salts.

i switched over to growstones in hempys and built an auto watering system and now i mix my nutes, set my pH, and don't touch anything for a week until i change out my res. can even go away on vacation for a week without worries. just my 2 cents.
I think i'm starting to not like coco too. I don't mind daily care, but it's a lot harder than I though to get seedlings going in this medium.
 

rkymtnman

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I think i'm starting to not like coco too. I don't mind daily care, but it's a lot harder than I though to get seedlings going in this medium.
i start my seeds in rapid rooters and once they get some decent roots, they go right into the hempy bucket.

the way i looked at it, the grow medium shouldn't cause any problems. so i mixed in all my coco out in my greenhouse for my veggie garden. problem solved. lol.
 

MickFoster

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put your finger in the soil knuckle deep, its its damp then dont water. top soil will always dry out faster, doesnt mean it needs watered . I give my seedlings a half of a measuring cup of water. thats it. then as the seedling dries out faster then I need to up the watering a bit, not much, not even to a cup of water till they get alot bigger
This is great advice if he were growing in soil - but he's not. Treat coco like soil and you get soil results.
 

tokm

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This is great advice if he were growing in soil - but he's not. Treat coco like soil and you get soil results.
Is there a method to tell when the solo cup needs watering? The top always looks dry. There is no res, just 4 notches in the bottom of each cup.
 

MickFoster

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There is nothing wrong with coco if you treat it like coco. I water seedlings around the edge of the solo cup every day with1/8" strength nutes - not to total saturation but just to keep moist - coco should never dry out - that's how salts build-up - even when saturated coco holds 30% oxygen. I don't recommend hempy style with coco because it holds water very well and doesn't require a 2" res in the bottom like the recommended hempy medium - perlite. Coco works best as a drain to waste - I water plants until run-off every day after the plant is a week old or so. It replenishes the coco with fresh nutes, rinses out salts, pushes out the stale oxygen and pulls in fresh oxygen. Plants use minerals at different rates, when you water/feed daily the plant always has the full amounts of what it needs.
 

tokm

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There is nothing wrong with coco if you treat it like coco. I water seedlings around the edge of the solo cup every day with1/8" strength nutes - not to total saturation but just to keep moist - coco should never dry out - that's how salts build-up - even when saturated coco holds 30% oxygen. I don't recommend hempy style with coco because it holds water very well and doesn't require a 2" res in the bottom like the recommended hempy medium - perlite. Coco works best as a drain to waste - I water plants until run-off every day after the plant is a week old or so. It replenishes the coco with fresh nutes, rinses out salts, pushes out the stale oxygen and pulls in fresh oxygen. Plants use minerals at different rates, when you water/feed daily the plant always has the full amounts of what it needs.
Thanks for the advise. In my pic in the first post do they look over watered to you? The coco was like sponge cake when i put the popped seeds in and since then I gave maybe 3/4 of a turkey baster worth of water to them. I sprayed with chamomile tea to protect from that fungi that causes damping off.
 
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