THELOADEDDRAGON'S Perpetually growing perpetual grow

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theloadeddragon

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Funny you should ask. here they are ;).

there are four rows of five 1 gal. pots labelled by strain as A-E

Rows are from Left to Right- Twilight, Mauii Skunk, Widow Cindy, Chemo Cindy

the seeds that poppered are as follows:

Twilight- 0
Mauii Skunk- A,B,C,E
Widow Cindy- A,D
Chemo Cindy- A,C,D,E

so 10 sprouts of 20 seeds in 48hr. 5 that didn't sprout are Twilight. They should come up by the 96 hr mark. The other 5 should sprout in the next 24 hrs.

I remoisened the top soil with a spray bottle :).

The rockwhool cubes for the cuttings that I took were dryish :o(because of dry airflow/lack of humidity) so I poured one cup of water in the tray :). Not really focussing too much on them at all.... just lettin them do whatever.... next couple batches of clones I will be a bit more involved with ;).

I will get the larger veg area set up right after Sept 1st. (perfect timing ;) ). Start getting the first flower set up going then too :). Some pics for yah, :) :weed:

:) says there Twilight, Mauii Skunk, Widow Cindy, and Chemo Cindy :)
 

theloadeddragon

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whoops..... sorry.... its RaiderMan thats growing that..... my bad......

Its your Trainwreck I wanted :).....

I like some of the phenotypes of trainwreck..... I want to breed trainwreck and play around till Im happy with it ;)
 

theloadeddragon

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All 5 Mauii Skunk have sprouted

All 5 Chemo Cindy have sprouted

4 Widow Cindy Sprouts


And to my delight and surprise..... 3 Twilights had sprouted when I looked this morning..... they are still sucking on their seeds, but I expect everything to have sprouted and be starting on their second leaf set by Friday.... so we'll say that Friday is day one of veg :)..... So 17 total in 72 hrs :) The other ones should pop up today :)
Just looking at them I can tell the cuttings are super pissed off at me..... they look like shit :fire: ...... and Im not going to do anything about it! :o We shall see how many make it of the 20 cuttings I took..... high estimate of 7 low estimate of 4 or 5..... but who knows maybe 12-17 will take root? LOL.... not in a great big hurry with those cuttings..... going to take more as soon as the trays empty anyways :) Won't be until this time next month I will be firing up the 1000W HPS :fire::fire: and Im already super excited about it!

I have more growing space than I know what to do with........ not enough lights :(......
 

theloadeddragon

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everything has popped and moved past the cotyledons and onto their next set of leaves accept for one Widow Cindy seed (Yes all the Twilight has popped). Things will start to go off faster now :).... I pulled 6 cuttings out of the rockwhool cubes and don't regret it..... they are done and gone, rubbed into the dirt :)....... see how many root by Monday, if none by then Im going to scratch the whole batch and use my Secondary PK mother..... as it is Im going to have to move a SS and use it as the new mother...... sadly the most likely candidate for that is in a raised bed........ going to take a full batch of clones I will care for more in depth this upcoming Tuesday, and I will do I pick update at the same time....... semi gloss flat white paint fresh coat for the first flowering area just got put up..... electricity checked..... enough to start with the two HPS just like I want to...... cycling in the second HPS for a rotating harvest (approximately 30 days apart) I am hoping to end up having consistant harvests every 30 days off of a 1000W HPS each time..... should have the full set up established by this time next year.... perpetually building up to then.... so thats six harvests building up to it..... maybe get 2 1000W HPS per harvest??? Picking more patients that are more willing to donate materials (like ballasts and lights for example :) ) Gunna be super busy till next week.... but I will definitely update with the news then ;) ..... stay cool peeps, and keep those plants lush :D
 

theloadeddragon

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going to put my 400W MH back together by this time next week.

Going to get another brand new 400W MH next week as well.

Found a 175W MH ballast and fixture rather randomly today, not sure yet if it works or how well, but it would be perfect for seedlings.

Going to set up the new veg area next Wednesday or Thursday.

Going to take on 4 or 5 more plants once its set up... slightly larger plants that need to be revegged, they may become mothers or just go out in the new greenhouse in late October or November to flower.... not sure....

Sorry no pics today. Still everything but that one has sprouted (the one that hasn't sprouted grew a tale but got no farther so far as I can tell).... they are almost on their third node, a little stretched, Im going to move them closer to the lights this evening.

Excited and exhausted..... I will try to get pics up tomorrow...... sorry
 

theloadeddragon

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still haven't gotten to take pics..... I need to water them again within the next 6 hrs sometime......

A little more important........ I hate shopping......

There are so many different Metal Hallide and HID products available, I hate sifting through all the sites and BS to find a good set up at a good price...... anyone have suggestions based on experience? I am looking for a 400w or 600w MH complete set up (complete and assembled ballast, bulb, fixture, and hood)....... trying to spend less than $250 on it....... gunna start putting the one I have back together this evening...... crossing my fingers and hoping it works..... my veg room is about 10 feet by 10 feet, and all I need is to figure out this damn lighting thing to get it all going!

but My thinking is this:

put one 400W MH in one corner for these seedlings (The new one I want to buy) covering a 4' by 4' area

put the other 400W MH in the corner diagnally opposite to the seedlings for 5 larger plants I need to reveg (the one I re assemble) covering a 3 1/2' by 3 1/2' area or so

Put the CFL/fluorescent panel in the only corner left over for cuttings/clones

And put the 175 MH I have in the middle of the room for any random left over whatever I need to keep alive or what ever...... just additional lighting....

So far as I know there is only one 120v 20 amp circuit going into the room (it was an add on to the place)....... so....... 975 watts MH total, and about 280 watts Fluorescents total, plus an a/c and circular fan...... how is this going to work out? I would really rather not blow the circuit as its shared by the bathroom next to it I think....
 

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bigjesse1922

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Try htgsupply.com

I am running a 400 watt Sun System ballast and reflector/hood and getting excellent results in my veg tent!
 

NewGrowth

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I think you will be hard pressed to find a really decent reflector and ballast for under $250. Unless you build it yourself. Are you planning on air-cooling?

HTG sells ok stuff, it seems to last but a well made ballast runs much cooler and gives you some piece of mind.

Do you not have a local hydro shop? Usually I find that working with someone locally can help you get stuff at lower prices. A lot of shops reward loyalty and some have pre-owned merchandise at a discount.

Either way you really get what you pay for.
:peace:
 

northeastern lights

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still haven't gotten to take pics..... I need to water them again within the next 6 hrs sometime......

A little more important........ I hate shopping......

There are so many different Metal Hallide and HID products available, I hate sifting through all the sites and BS to find a good set up at a good price...... anyone have suggestions based on experience? I am looking for a 400w or 600w MH complete set up (complete and assembled ballast, bulb, fixture, and hood)....... trying to spend less than $250 on it....... gunna start putting the one I have back together this evening...... crossing my fingers and hoping it works..... my veg room is about 10 feet by 10 feet, and all I need is to figure out this damn lighting thing to get it all going!

but My thinking is this:

put one 400W MH in one corner for these seedlings (The new one I want to buy) covering a 4' by 4' area

put the other 400W MH in the corner diagnally opposite to the seedlings for 5 larger plants I need to reveg (the one I re assemble) covering a 3 1/2' by 3 1/2' area or so

Put the CFL/fluorescent panel in the only corner left over for cuttings/clones

And put the 175 MH I have in the middle of the room for any random left over whatever I need to keep alive or what ever...... just additional lighting....

So far as I know there is only one 120v 20 amp circuit going into the room (it was an add on to the place)....... so....... 975 watts MH total, and about 280 watts Fluorescents total, plus an a/c and circular fan...... how is this going to work out? I would really rather not blow the circuit as its shared by the bathroom next to it I think....

Roughly ever amp is 100 watts on the safe side. I wouldn't want to push more than 15 amps on a 20 amp breaker. I run about 15 amp but I ran a 30 amp sub panel off the main feed.
 

curious old fart

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You have 2400 watts available. Depending on what your AC draws you should be alright, providing you run cfl's in your bathroom and don't even think about a blow dryer!!!
 

curious old fart

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I'm running a 600 digital hps from HTG supply and highly recommend the digital ballast, it draws about 10% less wattage than a standard ballast. As close as your wattage tolerance is you might consider it.
 

northeastern lights

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I'm running a 600 digital hps from HTG supply and highly recommend the digital ballast, it draws about 10% less wattage than a standard ballast. As close as your wattage tolerance is you might consider it.

I also have a 600 HPS. Love it. I used to run 2 400 watt hps. The 600 on the mover is less juice and better growth.
 

theloadeddragon

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Try htgsupply.com

I am running a 400 watt Sun System ballast and reflector/hood and getting excellent results in my veg tent!
I checked em out..... might end up going that route, thanks its much appreciated!

I think you will be hard pressed to find a really decent reflector and ballast for under $250. Unless you build it yourself. Are you planning on air-cooling?

HTG sells ok stuff, it seems to last but a well made ballast runs much cooler and gives you some piece of mind.

Do you not have a local hydro shop? Usually I find that working with someone locally can help you get stuff at lower prices. A lot of shops reward loyalty and some have pre-owned merchandise at a discount.

Either way you really get what you pay for.
:peace:
Your absolutely right....... but

Local hydro shop= 350 + bulb :( ..... thought for a split second about getting another ballast kit..... but I want reliability and a warranty ;)

Roughly ever amp is 100 watts on the safe side. I wouldn't want to push more than 15 amps on a 20 amp breaker. I run about 15 amp but I ran a 30 amp sub panel off the main feed.
I stop at 12 amp on a 20 amp circuit

You have 2400 watts available. Depending on what your AC draws you should be alright, providing you run cfl's in your bathroom and don't even think about a blow dryer!!!
Yeah... AC draws 4 amps...... gotta run another line in just for it and the two circulating fans Im going to use.

I'm running a 600 digital hps from HTG supply and highly recommend the digital ballast, it draws about 10% less wattage than a standard ballast. As close as your wattage tolerance is you might consider it.
I will only buy digital ballasts.....

I also have a 600 HPS. Love it. I used to run 2 400 watt hps. The 600 on the mover is less juice and better growth.
That makes perfect sense..... denser light larger spread ;)

Exactly why I use 1000W HPS over 600W
 
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