The War On Journalism; In Memory Of Michael Hastings

MellowFarmer

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I have now decided and firmly believe the alternative theory that Hastings faked his own death in order to set up the government. He faked a drone strike on his car in a brilliant effort with the Wikileaks guys to bring down the Obama administration.

Don't believe me?


Exhibit A- His very last story!






Why Democrats Love To Spy On Americans
Besides Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, most Democrats abandoned their civil liberty positions during the age of Obama. With a new leak investigation looming, the Democrat leadership are now being forced to confront all the secrets they’ve tried to hide.

posted on June 7, 2013 at 12:10pm EDT
Michael HastingsBuzzFeed Staff









Image by Jeff Chiu / AP


For most bigwig Democrats in Washington, D.C., the last 48 hours has delivered news of the worst kind — a flood of new information that has washed away any lingering doubts about where President Obama and his party stand on civil liberties, full stop.
Glenn Greenwald’s exposure of the NSA’s massive domestic spy program has revealed the entire caste of current Democratic leaders as a gang of civil liberty opportunists, whose true passion, it seems, was in trolling George W. Bush for eight years on matters of national security.
“Everyone should just calm down,” Senator Harry Reid said yesterday, inhaling slowly.
That’s right: don’t panic.
The very topic of Democratic two-facedness on civil liberties is one of the most important issues that Greenwald has covered. Many of those Dems — including the sitting President Barack Obama, Senator Carl Levin, and Sec. State John Kerry — have now become the stewards and enhancers of programs that appear to dwarf any of the spying scandals that broke during the Bush years, the very same scandals they used as wedge issues to win elections in the Congressional elections 2006 and the presidential primary of 2007-2008.
Recall what Senator Levin told CNN in 2005, demanding to “urgently hold an inquiry” into what was supposedly President Bush’s domestic wiretap program.
Levin continued, at length: “It means that there’s some growing concern on Capitol Hill about a program which seems to be so totally unauthorized and unexplained…The president wraps himself in the law, saying that it is totally legal, but he doesn’t give what the legal basis is for this. He avoided using the law, which we provided to the president, where even when there is an emergency and there’s a need for urgent action can first tap the wire and then go to a court.”
There are two notable exception to this rule are Senator Ron Wyden, from Oregon, and Sen. Mark Udall from Colorado, who had seemed to be fighting a largely lonely, frustrating battle against Obama’s national security state.
As Mark Udall told the Denver Post yesterday: “ did everything short of leaking classified information” to stop it.
His ally in Oregon, Ron Wyden, was one of the first to seize on the Guardian’s news break: “I will tell you from a policy standpoint, when a law-abiding citizen makes a call, they expect that who they call, when they call and where they call from will be kept private,” Wyden said to Politico, noting “there’s going to be a big debate about this.” The Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, admitted he’d mislead Senator Wyden at a hearing earlier this year, revising his statement yesterday to state that the NSA didn’t do “voyerustic” surveillance.
The state of affairs, in other words, is so grave that two sitting Senators went as close as they could to violating their unconstitutional security oaths in order to warn the country of information that otherwise would not have been declassified until April of 2038, according to the Verizon court order obtained by Greenwald.
Now, we’re about to see if the Obama administration’s version of the national security state will begin to eat itself.
Unsurprisingly, the White House has dug in, calling their North Korea-esque tools “essential” to stop terrorism, and loathe to give up the political edge they’ve seized for Democrats on national security issues under Obama’s leadership. The AP spying scandal — which the administration attempted to downplay at the time, even appointing Eric Holder to lead his own investigation into himself —was one of the unexpected consequences of one of two leak investigations that Obama ordered during the 2012 campaign.
It’s unclear where a possible third leak investigation would lead. However, judging by the DOJ’s and FBI’s recent history, it would seem that any new leak case would involve obtaining the phone records of reporters at the Guardian, the Washington Post, employees at various agencies who would have had access to the leaked material, as well as politicians and staffers in Congress—records, we now can safely posit, they already have unchecked and full access to.
In short: any so-called credible DOJ/FBI leak investigation, by its very nature, would have to involve the Obama administration invasively using the very surveillance and data techniques it is attempting to hide in order to snoop on a few Democratic Senators and more media outlets, including one based overseas.



Outside of Washington, D.C., the frustration that Wyden and Udall have felt has been exponentially magnified. Transparency supporters, whistleblowers, and investigative reporters, especially those writers who have aggressively pursued the connections between the corporate defense industry and federal and local authorities involved in domestic surveillance, have been viciously attacked by the Obama administration and its allies in the FBI and DOJ.

Jacob Appplebaum, a transparency activist and computer savant, has been repeatedly harassed at American borders, having his laptop seized. Barrett Brown, another investigative journalist who has written for Vanity Fair, among others publications, exposed the connections between the private contracting firm HB Gary (a government contracting firm that, incidentally, proposed a plan to spy on and ruin the reputation of the Guardian’s Greenwald) and who is currently sitting in a Texas prison on trumped up FBI charges regarding his legitimate reportorial inquiry into the political collective known sometimes as Anonymous.
That’s not to mention former NSA official Thomas Drake (the Feds tried to destroys his life because he blew the whistle ); Fox News reporter James Rosen (named a “co-conspirator” by Holder’s DOJ); John Kirakou, formerly in the CIA, who raised concerns about the agency’s torture program, is also in prison for leaking “harmful” (read: embarrassing) classified info; and of course Wikileaks (under U.S. financial embargo); WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange (locked up in Ecuador’s London embassy) and, of course, Bradley Manning, the young, idealistic, soldier who provided the public with perhaps the most critical trove of government documents ever released.
The attitude the Obama administration has toward Manning is revealing. What do they think of him? “Fuck Bradely Manning,” as one White House official put it to me last year during the campaign.
Screw Manning? Lol, screw us.
Perhaps more information will soon be forthcoming.

 

MellowFarmer

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Exhibit B - witnesses say it sounded like a bomb and the eyewitnes may have said missile in Spanish and that no one was following him. The transmission ended up on the other side of the road and he only saw his head, no body.

[video=youtube;fweyFCFKcp0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fweyFCFKcp0&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 

SlaveNoMore

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If he faked his own death then there are a lot of people in on it. The medical examiner was able to pull prints and identify the body as his. Why would he fake his own death in such a way that would endanger other people? Need more proof.
 

abandonconflict

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An important journalist is dead. I believe he was assassinated. I can't prove it and I won't even try to. All I have to suggest is that everyone familiarize themselves with what he had to say.
 

tokeprep

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An important journalist is dead. I believe he was assassinated. I can't prove it and I won't even try to. All I have to suggest is that everyone familiarize themselves with what he had to say.
You believe he was assassinated despite having no evidence whatsoever, as if people are immortal until the government does them in.

Go figure someone who makes their living reporting from war zones--literally risking their life every day knowing that dozens of other journalists have been killed--would do something stupid and irresponsible, like driving a car way too fast. Come to think of it, if you've been shot at and seen bombs going off, you probably don't even think of tearing down the street in your car as particularly dangerous.
 

SlaveNoMore

Active Member
Want to spy on someone? No problem just create your own court and go to town. If it's an "emergency" (special needs) go ahead and spy but just let the court know within 72 hours. Please and thank you:

[h=2]FISA warrants[edit][/h]Each application for one of these surveillance warrants (called a FISA warrant) is made before an individual judge of the court. The court may allow third parties to submit briefs as amici curiae. When the U.S. Attorney General determines that an emergency exists he may authorize the emergency employment of electronic surveillance before obtaining the necessary authorization from the FISC, after which the Attorney General or his designee must notify a judge of the court not more than 72 hours after the Attorney General authorizes such surveillance, as required by 50 U.S.C. § 1805.
If an application is denied by one judge of the court, the federal government is not allowed to make the same application to a different judge of the court, but may appeal to the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review. Such appeals are rare: the first appeal from the FISC to the Court of Review was made in 2002 (In re Sealed Case No. 02-001), 24 years after the founding of the court.
It is also rare for FISA warrant requests to be turned down by the court. During the 25 years from 1979 to 2004, 18,742 warrants were granted, while just four were rejected. Fewer than 200 requests had to be modified before being accepted, almost all of them in 2003 and 2004. The four rejected requests were all from 2003, and all four were partially granted after being submitted for reconsideration by the government. Of the requests that had to be modified, few if any were before the year 2000. During the next eight years, from 2004 to 2012, there were over 15,100 additional warrants granted, with an additional seven being rejected. In all, over the entire 33-year period, the FISA court has granted 33,942 warrants, with only 11 denials – a rejection rate of 0.03% of the total requests.[SUP][8]


And it all happens behind closed doors....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court
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NoDrama

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Come to think of it, if you've been shot at and seen bombs going off, you probably don't even think of tearing down the street in your car as particularly dangerous.
As someone who has been shot at and has seen bombs go off, the after-effect is the exact opposite of your statement.

You are trying to speculate that having been involved in different dangerous situations before makes one less apt to see dangerous activities as possibly harmful?
So after skydiving, I will go and try to wrestle a wild grizzly bear?
After race drivers get done with the Indy 500, they then go and try to outrun trains at the intersections?
Lion tamers generally speed home, then put a bullet in a revolver and play 3 rounds of Russian roulette for fun?
After being in 2 wars, I generally try to stick my hand into the running insinkerator to retrieve that lost spoon, because those wars made me too stupid to know that my hand will soon be missing the fingers.
After being in a war zone and having people shoot at me, I generally drive 120MPH everywhere I go and see no danger in that at all? Don't you?

The more I think about your statement, the more absurd it becomes.
 

tokeprep

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As someone who has been shot at and has seen bombs go off, the after-effect is the exact opposite of your statement.

You are trying to speculate that having been involved in different dangerous situations before makes one less apt to see dangerous activities as possibly harmful?
So after skydiving, I will go and try to wrestle a wild grizzly bear?
After race drivers get done with the Indy 500, they then go and try to outrun trains at the intersections?
Lion tamers generally speed home, then put a bullet in a revolver and play 3 rounds of Russian roulette for fun?
After being in 2 wars, I generally try to stick my hand into the running insinkerator to retrieve that lost spoon, because those wars made me too stupid to know that my hand will soon be missing the fingers.
After being in a war zone and having people shoot at me, I generally drive 120MPH everywhere I go and see no danger in that at all? Don't you?

The more I think about your statement, the more absurd it becomes.
Everything you just described is substantially more dangerous than speeding on an empty street early in the morning. Wrestling a grizzly bear and Russian roulette versus driving? Really?

But I don't even think that's the key point. If you were in a war zone, I doubt you volunteered to be there; most people don't volunteer to be there. You were ordered there, and you had no choice but to obey your orders. Michael Hastings willingly chose to spend his time in war zones, going into them entirely at his own volition, for cash. Tell us, NoDrama, how many years did Michael Hastings willingly spend in those war zones getting paid, choosing not to come home? Because all the people I knew who were in Afghanistan and Iraq couldn't wait to get out. They didn't stay a second longer than they were ordered to be there, and they never looked back.
 

tokeprep

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I turn it off first.
On that note, I should add that all of those risks are blatant. Sticking your hand in an operating garbage disposal? Wrestling bears? Playing Russian roulette? You know immediately that your risk of getting fucked up/killed is substantial, which affects your willingness to engage in those activities. That's why you turn the garbage disposal off before you stick your hand in.

Driving is innocuous. People get into their cars every day never expecting to get into an accident, let alone die, and yet 30,000 people die in their cars every single year. Speeding on an empty road early in the morning, especially if you do it all the time, isn't going to seem dangerous until you lose control of your car and find yourself careening into a tree. Then it's too late.
 

MellowFarmer

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If he faked his own death then there are a lot of people in on it. The medical examiner was able to pull prints and identify the body as his. Why would he fake his own death in such a way that would endanger other people? Need more proof.
BaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHahahahaha OMG I thought you meant Snowden and all the wikileaks peeps but no, you think it was the Hatzolah were in on it!? wow ok, that is not fair to laugh at someone who is trying to make a valid point but you really have to research a tiny bit on what went down.

Who exactly was he endangering by faking his death? it was 4:30 am on an empty street! only one witness saw it happen and he didn't see anyone else around!? Then Hatzolah, who is a volunteer first response team that is luckier than Nancy Drew at being at the scene of every suspected False Flag or other Black Ops assignations and I just don't trust that his body was even in there considering not one witness saw anything more than what they think was his head.
 

MellowFarmer

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[video=youtube;xX_YR4f8rWs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xX_YR4f8rWs[/video]

Here is an interesting theory.
 

MellowFarmer

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You believe he was assassinated despite having no evidence whatsoever, as if people are immortal until the government does them in.

Go figure someone who makes their living reporting from war zones--literally risking their life every day knowing that dozens of other journalists have been killed--would do something stupid and irresponsible, like driving a car way too fast. Come to think of it, if you've been shot at and seen bombs going off, you probably don't even think of tearing down the street in your car as particularly dangerous.
Ok, I will bite. How could someone so stupid to drive so fast have lived through a war zone?
 

MellowFarmer

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Everything you just described is substantially more dangerous than speeding on an empty street early in the morning. Wrestling a grizzly bear and Russian roulette versus driving? Really?

But I don't even think that's the key point. If you were in a war zone, I doubt you volunteered to be there; most people don't volunteer to be there. You were ordered there, and you had no choice but to obey your orders. Michael Hastings willingly chose to spend his time in war zones, going into them entirely at his own volition, for cash. Tell us, NoDrama, how many years did Michael Hastings willingly spend in those war zones getting paid, choosing not to come home? Because all the people I knew who were in Afghanistan and Iraq couldn't wait to get out. They didn't stay a second longer than they were ordered to be there, and they never looked back.
No, you do not have to obey orders. I like your name but you are still a slave I am afraid. :wall:

How many of your friends joined prior to 911? even then I would have to say that if you join the military and think that you will not get ordered into war then that is stupid. What is not stupid is wanting to get the fuck out of it after you realize that you have been royally conned!

I don't see NoDrama's service to our country as any different from Hastings. They have the same goal of assuring freedom and democracy for us just in different ways. The war journalist is just as needed if not more considering there is no need for a soldier without a war but with a war their is a great need for both!
 

MellowFarmer

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On that note, I should add that all of those risks are blatant. Sticking your hand in an operating garbage disposal? Wrestling bears? Playing Russian roulette? You know immediately that your risk of getting fucked up/killed is substantial, which affects your willingness to engage in those activities. That's why you turn the garbage disposal off before you stick your hand in.

Driving is innocuous. People get into their cars every day never expecting to get into an accident, let alone die, and yet 30,000 people die in their cars every single year. Speeding on an empty road early in the morning, especially if you do it all the time, isn't going to seem dangerous until you lose control of your car and find yourself careening into a tree. Then it's too late.
Please get back to me all of those that so closely resemble a drone strike and then if you could weed it down to those who may be a desired target of our gov? thanks it will really help in my research, I don't think this the first on American soil considering no one has really heard of this one how easily so many could have slipped under my radar!
 

Rob Roy

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On that note, I should add that all of those risks are blatant. Sticking your hand in an operating garbage disposal? Wrestling bears? Playing Russian roulette? You know immediately that your risk of getting fucked up/killed is substantial, which affects your willingness to engage in those activities. That's why you turn the garbage disposal off before you stick your hand in.

Driving is innocuous. People get into their cars every day never expecting to get into an accident, let alone die, and yet 30,000 people die in their cars every single year. Speeding on an empty road early in the morning, especially if you do it all the time, isn't going to seem dangerous until you lose control of your car and find yourself careening into a tree. Then it's too late.
Bears are good drivers, no need to worry.

 

NoDrama

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Everything you just described is substantially more dangerous than speeding on an empty street early in the morning. Wrestling a grizzly bear and Russian roulette versus driving? Really?

But I don't even think that's the key point. If you were in a war zone, I doubt you volunteered to be there; most people don't volunteer to be there. You were ordered there, and you had no choice but to obey your orders. Michael Hastings willingly chose to spend his time in war zones, going into them entirely at his own volition, for cash. Tell us, NoDrama, how many years did Michael Hastings willingly spend in those war zones getting paid, choosing not to come home? Because all the people I knew who were in Afghanistan and Iraq couldn't wait to get out. They didn't stay a second longer than they were ordered to be there, and they never looked back.
I volunteered for every war I was in. I volunteered for Somalia, got shot at a bunch. Volunteered for Desert storm, sat around did nothing except sit on a Gator Freighter as a decoy for the army land attack.
Voulnteered to rescue people when Mt Pinatubo blew up. Volunteered to join, volunteered to go first.
Oooh Rah Marine Corps! Its full of men, not pussies.

In what role did you serve your countrymen? Or did you not heed the call?
 

NoDrama

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Driving is innocuous.
If it really were, then 30,000 people wouldn't have their lives ended. Perhaps someone can cry about how we need to control guns since they help in the murder of almost 1/3 as many people as the innocuous and unharming car does.
 
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