The UK Growers Thread!

[jondamon]

Who could do this?
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I don't want to mention names of this I'm not looking to trash anyone I'm more curious about how or why... I've just opened a parcel and the seed pack has already been opened and is empty.

I didn't get sent freebies in the past and they claimed they did send them no big deal I wasn't fussy about them anyway but that was a simple mistake I realise that, this is more of a blatent insult which I'm very surprised about.

So let me get this straight.

You got sent a parcel with seeds in it?

the parcel was in tact when it arrived? No obviously signs of being opened?

The seed packet inside had been opened and no seeds to be found?

Only 1 person!

the sender has opened the seed packet.

or if possible

A middle man got sent the seeds and then sent the package on to you after taking the seeds out.

 

[Star Dog]

So let me get this straight.

You got sent a parcel with seeds in it?

the parcel was in tact when it arrived? No obviously signs of being opened?

The seed packet inside had been opened and no seeds to be found?

Only 1 person!

the sender has opened the seed packet.

or if possible

A middle man got sent the seeds and then sent the package on to you after taking the seeds out.

Yes @jondamon that's exactly it, I got the parcel as normal opened it and found the pack as pictured empty.
I've emailed them I'll see where it goes?

 

[Star Dog]

@jondamon If anyone is wondering 0.9EC runoff

Yes I am interested lol, especially so after increasing the light intensity during flower.
I've just increased the intensity to 500,000 lux across the canopy sure as shit the ec will have dropped further tomorrow, atm I,m using 1.4 with 1.0-1.1 run off.

Last night I mixed up mpk and added it to the tank at 0.1ec that's a total of 1.5ec from last night, when I checked the run off earlier it was reading 0.9ec.
I'll give a 24/36hr and take it from there, it seems logical for me to raise it like i would lower it if was to high.
This a new thing I'll need to learn to work around I never seen anything like this with hid it was only minor fluctuations.

 

[jondamon]

Last night I mixed up mpk and added it to the tank at 0.1ec that's a total of 1.5ec from last night, when I checked the run off earlier it was reading 0.9ec.
I'll give a 24/36hr and take it from there, it seems logical for me to raise it like i would lower it if was to high.
This a new thing I'll need to learn to work around I never seen anything like this with hid it was only minor fluctuations.

I’ve been in this situation before.

whenever I’ve had more than 0.2 decrease I’ve only ever increased by 0.2 and then increased feeding Per day by an extra feed.

 

[coreywebster]

Alright chaps.
Just checking who's about

 

[Leeski]

Good to see you about mate hope all is well

 

[Star Dog]

Alright chaps.
Just checking who's about

Alright bud, how are you getting on?

 

[Star Dog]

From family guy a couple of nights back i was lmao its a good one.

 

[coreywebster]

Alright bud, how are you getting on?

Not bad mate cheers.
How's things with you?

Good to see you guys keeping this thread alive!

 

[Star Dog]

Not bad mate cheers.
How's things with you?

Good to see you guys keeping this thread alive!

Things are fine here mate I'm keeping myself busy lol.

 

[jondamon]

Little update.

input EC was at 1.1

runoff EC was at 0.7.

feeding twice a day.

Ive upped the res now to 1.3EC

Although not an exacting science like hydro initially I like to monitor the runoff EC to keep an eye on my rootzone.

while like I mentioned it’s not 100% accurate to check runoff EC with coco I do find over time that you can monitor issues that correlate to leaf issues when you see changes in the runoff.

Currently for example. I have redpetioles and a few “burn” marks on my leaves.

this coupled with the reduction in runoff of 0.4EC says to me that I can feed heavier.

when I hit the +-0.2EC in the runoff is when I will generally stop checking runoff unless I notice any leaf issues beginning or see a massive jump in growth rate.

Massive jumps in growth rate can create a massive reduction in Runoff EC (again in my experience) causing the plant to want to be fed heavier again.

Anyway some pics from last night.

nothing major done other than refill the reservoir and spray the plants with a Triacontanol solution along with remove around 6L of runoff.

Using my tubular heater continuously at present to Maintain 25/23C temps and using the humidifier I'm keeping RH 60/43%

 

[Star Dog]

Yesterday later in the day I raised my ec to 1.8 today I'm getting 1.3-1.4ec run off today so that's moving in the right direction.
I'll hold it at 1.8 for 24hr and take see how it goes, I don't expect that's the end of it.

I'm starring to think/realise that the manufacturers ec guides isn't actually as far off as i've long thought, I'm using 1.8 atm and last crop I was up as far as 2.0 (in slightly different circumstances)

I never thought I'd think that but it appears to be the case?

 

[jondamon]

Yesterday later in the day I raised my ec to 1.8 today I'm getting 1.3-1.4ec run off today so that's moving in the right direction.
I'll hold it at 1.8 for 24hr and take see how it goes, I don't expect that's the end of it.

I'm starring to think/realise that the manufacturers ec guides isn't actually as far off as i've long thought, I'm using 1.8 atm and last crop I was up as far as 2.0 (in slightly different circumstances)

I never thought I'd think that but it appears to be the case?

Tbh with you bud I think it more often has to do with a few other contributing factors.

We as growers evolve over each cycle we perform and so too do our environments as we search for the “perfect” control.

as the control gets better as too does the environment for the plants.

as the environment is dialed in more and more with each cycle our plants respond more and more.

so I think as we strive for environmental perfection I think we see this translocated in our plants ability to use everything we are providing.

 

[conor c]

Tbh with you bud I think it more often has to do with a few other contributing factors.

We as growers evolve over each cycle we perform and so too do our environments as we search for the “perfect” control.

as the control gets better as too does the environment for the plants.

as the environment is dialed in more and more with each cycle our plants respond more and more.

so I think as we strive for environmental perfection I think we see this translocated in our plants ability to use everything we are providing.

Id agree but if in organic soil or compost i think the rule less is more applies more vs hydro where you can "push" plants more this is assuming your environment is perfect of course which is strange when soil has the better buffering capabilities but thats how i see it anyway mate

 

[Star Dog]

Tbh with you bud I think it more often has to do with a few other contributing factors.

We as growers evolve over each cycle we perform and so too do our environments as we search for the “perfect” control.

as the control gets better as too does the environment for the plants.

as the environment is dialed in more and more with each cycle our plants respond more and more.

so I think as we strive for environmental perfection I think we see this translocated in our plants ability to use everything we are providing.

Absolutely I agree with that but for environment I've had it dialed in for a few years I think or assumed my 600/660w was the limiting factor.

 

[Ghettogrower187]

Led v hps! Who's your money on??? Both lights are adjustawing hellions, the led is 510w 3 way spectrum controller and the hps is 600-750w double ended bulb, flipped on Friday stripped yesterday. Let the fun commence! They smelling real good too and my fingers were sticky from the strip down

 

[Star Dog]

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Led v hps! Who's your money on??? Both lights are adjustawing hellions, the led is 510w 3 way spectrum controller and the hps is 600-750w double ended bulb, flipped on Friday stripped yesterday. Let the fun commence! They smelling real good too and my fingers were sticky from the strip down

I think they'll be more different than one better, from what I've seen and ime led for the most part (not a rule) grows smaller tighter nugs hps grows crackers but maybe not just as dense.

It'll be interesting to see how it goes but I think both will good.

 

[Star Dog]

Yesterday later in the day I raised my ec to 1.8 today I'm getting 1.3-1.4ec run off today so that's moving in the right direction.
I'll hold it at 1.8 for 24hr and take see how it goes, I don't expect that's the end of it.

I'm starring to think/realise that the manufacturers ec guides isn't actually as far off as i've long thought, I'm using 1.8 atm and last crop I was up as far as 2.0 (in slightly different circumstances)

I never thought I'd think that but it appears to be the case?

Since raising the ec a couple of days back I've putting 1.8ec in and getting 1.7/1.8ec out so I'm happy with that.

I've still got about 20% power in reserve but I'm going to leave it as is for now, I'm just starting 4th week of 12-12, 3rd week 12-12 for the clones.

I've increased the temps to 22c night, 27c day and lowered the humidity to 58/60%.

I need to clean the lower growth and take some clones but I'll get it through the week I'm having a sore back spell with overdoing things.

 

[Ghettogrower187]

I think they'll be more different than one better, from what I've seen and ime led for the most part (not a rule) grows smaller tighter nugs hps grows crackers but maybe not just as dense.

It'll be interesting to see how it goes but I think both will good.

Yeh its gonna be interesting, my main goal is to see what difference is in flavour, quality and yeild, will be good to see how the ones that get a bit of both lights fair too, never used a de before heard good things tho

 

[Star Dog]

I'm pleased with my skunk special, it's a nice tidy plant and not too much stretch.

24 days 12-12 this is the 1st pheno I've had in years to show pre flowers at 9-11 days.
The blue cheese, skunk special and Kings juice look nice plants but the star dog looks crap in terms of lanky undefined serations on huge leafs, some of the upper mid shoots have stretched 6-9" lol its like elastic.