The UK Growers Thread!

The Yorkshireman said:
The only reason I haven't de-registered it and fucked the number plate/tax/insurance off is because in this line of work it would be more hassle than it's worth having the cunts know my face after getting pulled umpteen times.

As for the lessons.

I have a provisional license = check
I have a suitably experienced driver to instruct me = check
The car is fully insured and will show up as such on any police reference = check
The land is private = check
We can even make it gated and not connected to any roads if so be it = check


If Mr Plod thinks he can prove that I'm personally not insured to drive the car and he's nicking me he can fuck off!
Plod has no way of knowing.
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The whole private land thing is a moot point as far as im aware because as i said they changed it all a while back n a few of my mates got done for it

Also i think the legislation quite clearly states that the barrier between the landd and the road has to be secured by the landowner or something like that, you cant just go n put a line of traffic cones there n say its closed as its not your gate to lock
 
Saerimmner said:
Also one for you yorkie did you know the DVLA is a trading fund as well?
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Yes.

It's a private entity, for profit corporation.

Exactly why only registered cars in commerce need a number plate/insurance/tax/license.

You try telling that to the copper who pulls you though, it's a ball ache getting all the legit paperwork together to do it properly.
 
One for you yorkie, further down the same page i gave you earlier

liver left an annotation (10 January 2014)
Hi all,

I've done a lot of work on this area.

Turns out; the DVLA don't own or claim to own any part of the vehicle. Other than car tax, they don't enforce any part of any law.
Unfortunately they literally hold the details for whoever chooses to own a "mechanically propelled vehicle".

There has not been a case since 1973 where they have taken rights to a vehicle, or, so research shows; they do not and apparently will not claim any title over said "vehicles". (I've also realised it says this on the V5C on the front in the exclamation that says something along the lines of "This document is not proof of ownership".

I've also uncovered information on freedom on the land in the UK; no case of such ever gone before any court in the United Kingdom has proved beneficial for the "Freeman" (I.e. John, of the Smith family, Jane, of the Doe family - as I believe Freemen prefer to be known).

When delving into the law further; contract law and statute law are defined in such as two completely separate areas. Contract is something whereby both parties involved consent to the terms by which they are bound for the duration of the contract. Statute law is imposed on any individual choosing to live on the land that is governed by said law. There is no explicit choice necessary, as the decision to maintain existence as an individual of/in that country is binding by all laws.

The foundation of freedom on the land endeavours are with in the confines of the USA's entirely different legal system. Beginning with Alexander Hamilton and the amendments.

The main point being one particular amendment saying something along the lines of every member of the land has the right to choose. (Land being America). However the disappointing contradiction of this is (I think) the 14th amendment; that goes on to say that anybody choosing to live in said 'land' is property of the government and as such must abide by all laws.

In short, as great as most of us would find it to be a law into ourselves; the unfortunate truth is we can't choose to enjoy one half of the law and not the other. If we elect to have a vehicle that is or has ever been mechanically prepared then we are electing to be privy to any rules associated with that decision.

Best regards all.

P.S. In reference to the freedom of information act; merely being a member of this website all so shows participation on the sign up page:

"We do not disclose this information unless the requires us to do so" - The email input box.
 
I actually found the statute rule that says we don't have to pay council tax or income tax too.

It's been bugging me for years who/what actually says we have to pay tax by law and where the authority comes from.

I found it via some guy on youtube who did the same, it's in the statute definitions list at the bottom of the release.
I'll find it again sometime this week and post it up.
It's cool as fuck when you read it word for word and don't interpret it!
 
Saerimmner said:
One for you yorkie, further down the same page i gave you earlier




When delving into the law further; contract law and statute law are defined in such as two completely separate areas. Contract is something whereby both parties involved consent to the terms by which they are bound for the duration of the contract. Statute law is imposed on any individual choosing to live on the land that is governed by said law. There is no explicit choice necessary, as the decision to maintain existence as an individual of/in that country is binding by all laws.
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I've got an interesting story about my cars tax to prove what all that says about the ownership but before that this bit about "no explicit consent needed" is actually wrong.

We took the monarchs divine right away with King John and that is exactly the reason why statute is only given the power of law by consent of the people.

I have a copy of a very special affidavit written to the Queen by a top journalist that precedes with the entire history up to this point as the factual case, I'll find that too cos it's the best I've ever seen, it's fucking watertight.

The reason why court cases with freeman are lost is because .....

1) The stupid cunt actually goes to court in the first place.
2) The stupid cunt goes to court without being fully prepared.

Never go to court and if you think your balls are big enough to cut through their bullshit then you have to go team handed like Rusty did on youtube and arrest the bench! lol
 
The Yorkshireman said:
I've got an interesting story about my cars tax to prove what all that says about the ownership but before that this bit about "no explicit consent needed" is actually wrong.

We took the monarchs divine right away with King John and that is exactly the reason why statute is only given the power of law by consent of the people.

I have a copy of a very special affidavit written to the Queen by a top journalist that precedes with the entire history up to this point as the factual case, I'll find that too cos it's the best I've ever seen, it's fucking watertight.

The reason why court cases with freeman are lost is because .....

1) The stupid cunt actually goes to court in the first place.
2) The stupid cunt goes to court without being fully prepared.

0ever go to court and if you think your balls are big enough to cut through their bullshit then you have to go team handed like Rusty did on youtube an5d arrest the bench! lol
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When was the last time u were arrested or taken to court yman? U dont really have a choice if u dont appear for trial they issue a warrant for ur arrest, fuck having the pigs turn up at ur door cos u failed to attend,
 
I'll tell the car story tomorrow, bit tired now so I'm of to smoke bowls and watch crap tv in bed.

Yeah I've learned now to use their own rules against them now, income tax not payable on labour is a belter!

;)
 
Garybhoy11 said:
When was the last time u were arrested or taken to court yman? U dont really have a choice if u dont appear for trial they issue a warrant for ur arrest, fuck having the pigs turn up at ur door cos u failed to attend,
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Lol, about 10-11 years ago when I first came to Bradford and went to prison for burgling a private opticians out of £6000 worth of designer sunglasses.


They only issue warrants for failing to attend court over criminal offences and possibly offences against government agency's but the latter is actually sketchy.

Everything else is a judgement in absence as it's administrative I'm pretty sure.
 
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