The Skunklab - DWC Stealth Cabinet and 4X4 Tent

phenob

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Oh no doubt about that at all. I had to bust up a couple of big ass colas like that last harvest. This HS has a couple that look huge like that, but they aren't. They are all most crown shaped, with spears jutting out at angles.

Waiting to get some pics of the SFV and BD in the tent. It's unreal. Just started week 5 and the individual buds are already starting to connect. And anything about LEDs reducing trichs is bullshit. The SFV right under the LED is sick frosty already.

Snow Storm Ultra fed foliar > Resinator in the sauce. No contest.
 

Jozikins

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I gotcha. Dude I'm excited for your tent. I am thinking of putting a 1k in a 5x5. I think it'll be easy to fill that footprint with a XXXL magnum hood. I've seen some crown shaped nugs too.

Dude, I'm lighting up the BD. I wish I didn't just vend of 8oz because I would throw a half oz at you just for hooking me up with these amazing clones. I'll set aside some of my next harvest so you can have a personal stash. You'll know soon enough, that BD under the 1k looks amazing in your tent, I'm sure it'll come out just as dank if not more than mine.
 

phenob

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I wanted a huge hood in there too but I'm so glad I didn't. I'd have to stack the LED in there or some shit. This side by side thing is working great so far. Will be interesting to see how the front side near the LED compares with the back in the end.

and damn a 5x5 would be sweet. so would another 12" of height.
 

phenob

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oh and been meaning to post results -

red 6" "self-watering" pots in the colosseum on drippers were accumulating too much water below the netpot at @40ml per day. i added a layer of hydroton beneath the net pot to soak up the drainage. this has worked fantastically, and duh should have been done in the first place. roots are already popping out of the net pots. this saves a week or more in the flower chamber. ha! would have saved a month on the last tent grow.
 

Jozikins

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I'm, starting to think 5x5 might actually be too small to supply the new dispensary I've been talking too. But I'd like to see a1k baverb with the LED above it. I bet you could kick some serious ass doing that. You have the hydro system to do that too, I don't know if you can do it with 2 plants per unit, but you can do it with 1 plant per unit and make more units. 4 trees around a 1k with stacked nodes from the LED above. Maybe 5 trees... you need a 5x5 and you need to try that. lol.

Having a porous substrate under your medium in pots can cause a multitude of problems, so keep a close eye on them. Hope it works for you though.

Sorry buddy, 7ft tall is as big as they make grow tents... I think.
 

phenob

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Yeah i can't fit anything taller in here either, but it's nice to dream. Sure wish i could lift the lights another 10" right now.

What in the world is a baverb? sounds like a reverb unit from the 80s.

And expand re: porous substrate under medium in pots please. I have net pots full of hydroton sitting on a layer of hydroton about 1 pebble thick.

Also the fucking springtails are unkillable without poison. Seeing them on rockwool now. No damage, no problems, but man it bugs me seeing those little fuckers crawl around. Yeah yeah i know, supposed to be beneficial, whatever. I like that there hasn't been a drop of insecticide of any kind in here in months so letting it be. Something tells me we could azamax dunk and all the rest and those little jumpers will come right back.
 

Myles117

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i can imagine seeing lil tiny bugs bouncin round would be aggravating even if they are relatively harmless. id get some yellow insect cards to at least catch the unlucky ones :)
 

phenob

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i dug into this quite a bit a few months ago when i tried to stop these little fellers from crawling around. they don't fly, so yellow cards don't get em. tanglefoot on the pots helped some but the population didnt dwindle at all. not worth the mess of tanglefoot everywhere. worse than bugs.

apparently springtails are beneficial to our grows because they will pick up myco and other spores then transport them around as they crawl around eating algae and other stuff that we don't want around anyway. they want moisture, even just a little bit of it. spillage of maybe 5ml per day max was enough for them to thrive by the dozens (that I could see). a major reason why i implemented the drip system, but it hasn't mattered. they just moved into the cups.

note also on the pots with hydroton on the bottom - as the plants extend just one fat root down out of the net pot into this lower area, the moisture is gone almost immediately. have one pot where the roots are poked out and was really giving it an inspection after finding it bone dry on the bottom when others are accumulating a little moisture. full on bone dry. dripper working fine, everything good, plant happy. gotta be that the few roots poking down are enough to suck all of that out of there straight away.
 

phenob

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Tent, SFVOGF3 and Blue Dream, Flower Week 5:

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droplets in some pics are from foliar feeding of snow storm ultra 15 minutes before. had to clean a ton of debris from beneath and within the blue dream. 10x more than the SFVs. Blue dream overgrows itself with much more ferocity. Cut out a bunch of useless thin stems, that sort of thing. No useless stems found on any of the SFVs that i can get to. I can't get to the one in the back corner at all. It's on autopilot for the duration.

Tent res is dropping over 6.5gal per day. Really need a filter here. Two trips to the glacier machines per week is too much.

i did not get a pic this time, but the main stem on the blue dream should now be more approriately referred to as a trunk. it's fucking huge! larger than a tube of caulking, maybe .75" smaller than the inner diameter of a roll of duct tape. something like that. easily three times as large as anything i've ever grown in the skunklab.

Opened up the cabinet and what do i see?
another green caterpillar starin back at me.

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right up on top this time. probably got caught with the lights coming on, or maybe he doesn't like the flush sauce in there? the plants dont. water level has not dropped in 24hrs, unheard of around here. can't recall no drop even when flushing before. the hindu skunk says, "i ain't drinkin' that"
 

phenob

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i stuck him in the jar with the others and some leaf clippings. he immediately climbed up as high as he could, atop a stem. he's still there, not one for subtlety.
 

Jozikins

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baverb is bare vertical bulb. Sorry brah, I thought you were in with the in crowd ;)

I was talking about the hydroton under your mix, tap roots at the bottom constantly dampering off is supposedly bad for your plants and is wasted energy, it also creates a inconsistency in your medium. But this "fact" conflicts with the screaming success people achieve with smartpots. and other likewise containers. Can you put the light mounts directly on tent support, that is another 3 or 4 more inches right there, I had to do that on the Tower of SCRoG.

I want to talk to you about a project coming up. I may be able to fund and test your idea. I will hopefully be out there tomorrow afternoon. I was going to visit the valley but I'm rerouting to OC because I have more urgent matters than drinking beer and trying to mend apparent relationship problems out in the valley.
 

phenob

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goddammit im so sick of wrestling with this stupid text input box on rolliitup. I could make this so much better in all of like 15 minutes .. fuck! let's try again.

I have made it a point for years to stay as far away from the In crowd as possible.

This run in the tent was testing something along those lines, bare CFLs screwed directly into the scrog screen. Results are fantastic, as one would likely expect. Little wastes of space are noe beautiful buds. Still tiny, but they are frosty as can be and perfectly colored and dense. Great stuff, and this success will likely lead me right to this baverb that you speak of.

Gotcha on the tap roots, makes sense. Shouldn't be a problem here though unless I try keeping moms like that, which I'd rather not do. I don't expect to have any plants rigged this way for more than 2, maybe 3 weeks max as they await placement into one of the flower chambers. All I need is just a couple little roots poking out of the bottom to make things explode immediately when placed into dwc.

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Here's an early chop from last night. Partially as a test, partially as a hedge against exhausting the rest of my last harvest within the next 48 hours. It looks nice, not too fluffy but not as dense as we'd like. Size is good, smell is very light, and hardly sticky at all. Grade: C-, nowhere close to a straight C either. No biggie though, this came from down below the vent filter where hardly any direct light reaches. Surprised it came out with size at all.
 

phenob

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Wall AC installed. No more temp problems in this room. Nevermind the electricity bill.

Should've done this a year ago. Installing a wall unit AC is pretty easy, took me about 6 hours with parts runs.
 

Jozikins

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Hell yeah dude. stuck one in my wall and my room stays extra fucking pleasant year around. Temps are great in my tent and in my nursery, flower room has it's own fresh air supply from a shady part of the house, so as long as it isn't to much hotter than 80, temps stay fine in the shade. Except for the last 3 weeks of august and first week of September, it has been extremely pleasant up here.
 

phenob

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Started the chop on day 75 with the C grade stuff. So far I am unimpressed with anything but the size, couple of really nice sized colas. Otherwise first day was all C, all the undies and little bits. This will be about 1.5oz.
Day 76 continued into B and even touching on a few A grade buds. The CFLs bellow did wonders, and all the little stuff around them came out small but great quality. Another 1.5 - 2oz or so (estimating dry).

The 10 big colas are still ready to chop. They wil go tonight into tomorrow, and the cabinet will be reset for the next cycle by Sunday. These colas have definitely been looking better and better each day. I don't think this grow has gone long at all, these girls are just getting right. Yellow leaves are slowly going purple, and the good buds are frosting and swelling more daily, enough so that I've purposely delayed chopping the good stuff for another day or two.

The big buds will be much, much better than I anticipated. There will be several ounces of A+ top shelf frosty flowers. Pics later. Guessing total yield will be around 8oz again.
 

Myles117

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i got worried reading ur post seeing C grades bein handed out but now i see thts just the popcorn n lower budsites. cant wait to see some macros of the big colas bro! an the reset of the room to do it again :D
 

phenob

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I am equally worried believe me. This cycle had temps regularly 88-93f during daylight and at least two instances of running for over 30 minutes with temps probably exceeding 100f (operator error, my bad.) I am certain the next run of HS will be better, as now I know to expect the crazy stretch and have taken additional steps to get the temp in here tamed.

I was fully expecting an entire harvest of fluffy duffy un-sticky, leaf-smelling garbage but these girls have really picked it up in the last week or two. Trying not to get my hopes up now, but damn some of what comes off tonight should be great.

And despite these good things, I have to point out that much of the trimming I've been doing by hand, not even using scissors, just pulling leaf off. It's not good when you can do this for a few hours and your fingers aren't sticking together. Not good at all. We should be done with that segment of the harvest though.

It's been interesting this time, usually the lowest buds are the gnarliest, but with the CFLs the low stuff is good, then it moves up to crap, then moves up again to great. This suggests, like Jozikins mentioned, a bare vertical bulb or three in here and holy god look out.
 

phenob

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This harvest may not be up to my par, but it sure as hell beats this fucking garbage that just came from a local dispensary.
 
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