The Seed Collectors Thread

racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
karmas a bitch said:
wow im awful i actually had to think about that one yes she does
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jesu, that is pretty bad, lol.. so do i, so i think that maybe why i drool so much, well, at least that is what i always tell meself, but after hearing your girl does it too, i think i maybe onto something..
 
Dizzle Frost

Dizzle Frost

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Trapt1nw0nder said:
What do you mean by this?..... Like keeping small clones, and re-cloning them when they get too big?.... Cuz that's what I'm doing..... I dont see an other way.....
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nah i think he means keeping apruned bonsia type mommy....i can tell you from experience that cutting clones from clones is not a good practice if you dont have to do it. Try pruniong yuor mother plant next time...even if you gota cut clones your not goona use. sorry for the speeling..ive had too many beers
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Trapt1nw0nder said:
What do you mean by this?..... Like keeping small clones, and re-cloning them when they get too big?.... Cuz that's what I'm doing..... I dont see an other way.....
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or you could look into tissue culture.. i've never really looked into too much other than the couple of stories i've read about it here and there, but i know some people on other sites who do it and say it's not all that hard to do, and you could keep hundreds of strains in a super small area..
i'm not exactly sure how long you can store tissue culture for though, but if you would like to save some room and keep your genetics around and are pretty good at keeping a sterile environment, which i'm so not, than maybe tissue culture is something that you could pull off..
 
Dizzle Frost

Dizzle Frost

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i dont have alota space..so i cut clones every month regardless of how many i use.....by a months time she grows back, i jus keep em in a 1 gal grow bag
 
Trapt1nw0nder

Trapt1nw0nder

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Yeah, man..... I know of that, but I doubt I'd be doing something like that, and no my place isnt sterile at all...lol...

I have a question If I were to order from sannies right now.... later.... soon, whatever....lol

um...... If I were to want both an indica and a sativa dominate strain (one I buy, and the freebies)..... What freebie should I go for if I buy an Indica, and what to get if I get a Sativa?
 
theDEEDO

theDEEDO

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QUESTION ABOUT CLONE ONLY STRAINS....Could you not just take the female clone past her harvest time, where she starts to pollenate herself before she dies, and get some pollen/seeds (or a collodial (sp) silver spray method) and continue the strain like that? Or is there something up with clone only strains where that wont happen? Never understood the clone only deal. Thats the ugly face of greed right there
 
Trapt1nw0nder

Trapt1nw0nder

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theDEEDO said:
QUESTION ABOUT CLONE ONLY STRAINS....Could you not just take the female clone past her harvest time, where she starts to pollenate herself before she dies, and get some pollen/seeds (or a collodial (sp) silver spray method) and continue the strain like that? Or is there something up with clone only strains where that wont happen? Never understood the clone only deal. Thats the ugly face of greed right there
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I dont really think it's greed.... It's probably a bagseed of something, and it ended up dope, and since they dont know the true genetics, they'll just name it whatever, and make it a clone only..... Imagine all those good grow rooms full of awesome genetics, but somehow one of their strains goes hermie, and pollinates alot of the other DOPE genetics..... So maybe this grower all he cared about was bud, so he tried and to pull all the seeds off, but sure he missed a few, so when someone runs through some of this smoke, and finds this seed..... It just might be the next clone only strain near you....lol....... Or find a seed at a grateful dead show, or near a trainwreck works too...lol
 
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cmt1984

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nah man...trust me, most of it is greed. ive come across quite a few people that wouldnt give me a cut cuz they didmt want anyone else to have it...bullshit...im down with spreadin the love, if i find a good cut, i want everyone to grow it.

clone onlys are usually a certain pheno of a strain.

yes, you could reverse her sex and self pollinate or pollinate a different strain....thats how fem seeds are made. or you could backcross them, which is what i prefer since i dont like working with fem seeds.

chem seeds werent found at a grateful dead show...the bag from which they came from was bought at a grateful dead show.
 
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TheLastWood

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Some strains can't be turned. Like exodus cheese. Tons of breeders have tried to reverse her but the closest thing you can find is an exodus x skunk #1 bx. (Until recently, there are a few very very close copys, but even those are reg seeds not fems!) I don't know why, but for some reason noone has been able to succesfuly reverse the exodus cut.

Maybe its been unsuccesful because the following generations had hermie tendancys. or exodus is really just a skunk#1 pheno that's insanely rare so even if you somehow recreated the genetics you would still have to be super lucky to find one, and ppl just think they have failed.

I think kalimans cheese will be the closest, I've heard its very close, and some say better than exodus. But he says that one of his exodus cuts actually switched gender 100%. And he did post pictures of a plant with balls that looked just like the female.
 
Trapt1nw0nder

Trapt1nw0nder

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I'm talking about the popular clone only strains out there...... and even if you made seeds, you cant guarantee they will come out the same as the clone...... you'll probably have to find it within 100s of seeds.... It will take years by the time you can get a seed stabilized even close to what the true cut was, or else blue dream would already be in everyone's inventory....
 
Dizzle Frost

Dizzle Frost

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for the question about greed...its deff greed...seeds shouldnt cost so much money regardless of what genetics are used...my fav seedbank charges $30/10 and he has no flashy names..just the generic cross...but thats just me, ive never been a bandwagon grower that has to have the newest rage...i like my oldskewl proven smokes.

theres lots a good gear for cheap, Peak seeds, Sannies, Joey Weed, Bean-Ho, Cannacopia just to name a few.....$30-50ish a pack is IMO fair...unless its some rare sativa or hierloom i reallly want i dont like paying more lol
 
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cmt1984

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im with ya on that one dizzle...everything is way over priced for sure...but i guess my will power isnt strong enough to stay away from the high dollar shit :)
 
Dizzle Frost

Dizzle Frost

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cmt1984 said:
im with ya on that one dizzle...everything is way over priced for sure...but i guess my will power isnt strong enough to stay away from the high dollar shit :)
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Amen lol!

well there is always exceptions for poppin mad loot lol.....i would pay 100 and up for legit Bros Grimm gear or some SOL Blockhead...stuff like that is my exception
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
i also agree.. and this dude gudkarma brought up another good point the other day.. why only ten beans per pack of most regular seeds?? where and why did this become the norm? when breeders do seed runs, i'd hate to think of the number of beans that they get out of one room of seeded plants for the most part.. i do understand that some strains are known to to give many seeds, but on the most part, they get a lot of beans from one seed run, so why on earth only give us 10 per pack ?? ah, could it be greed, lol, nah, i don't think so...
 
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