The Scrog Club

Hi Growan, I'm good thanks. Glad to hear that your plants didn't die from a bit of defoliation, I'll pm you about it as I don't want to hijack this thread into being a defoliation thread!

I can't work out how to send a pm!! lol

I'm not sure when the latest into flower it is possible to defoliate, but a lot of people defoliate twice in flower at roughly 3 weeks and 5 weeks. Some just defoliate at 3 weeks then leave the plants.

Unfortunately we are not allowed to have a conversation with other people about this so that we can compare notes, which is something I'd dearly love to do. We might be able to find out the answer to questions like that. There are lot's of things still up for debate regarding defoliation.

What you have shown yourself is that plants don't wilt and die when you remove a leaf, like some people would have you believe. Hopefully that will give you the confidence to try some more experimentation, but don't make the mistake of defoliating in flower when you haven't defoliated in veg. This is the big mistake that people make and then moan because they stunted their plants growth, you must defoliate in veg if you want to do it in flowering!!

I know you're probably itching to pull a few more leaves off to see what happens, but the best time to practice this technique is in veg when the worst you can do is extend the veg time a bit. As long as you plan it into your schedule then you won't really go wrong, just leave 2 weeks for the plants to recover from any defoliation before switching to 12/12.

Man, I miss that thread... it got so far out it wasn't funny, but amongst it all there was some interesting stuff, from both sides.
I did a lot of of canopy tucking the other day and it made a huge difference visually. It's like picking scabs, I felt like having a huge 'clean up'. Damned leafy scrogs!
Next run I recon I'll be doing a side by side comparison as I've cloned enough to overfill my screen twice!

I had to defoliate several times in veg., then in flower I finally ended up pulling ALL the fan leaves because my scrog was way too crowded. I thought it looked neet, a field of buds. They were healthy and produced well... a lot more buds than if I would have let that jungle grow without thinning. I am going to do it again on my next grow too!

I've been well shrubby this time round, next time I might do things the other way. Just to see. There really is a lot of leaf in that tent... :0

Gowan how is the scrog doing? I remember early in our grows we were afraid of taking off too many leaves... Now Im afraid I have too many! heres a pic at 5 weeks flowering, might do a little trim when I water tonight.

There are far too many buds in that picture BB, have you considered cutting some of them off so the leaves can get more light? They must be blocking out a fair amount of light to the leaves.

neo12345 said:

There are far too many buds in that picture BB, have you considered cutting some of them off so the leaves can get more light? They must be blocking out a fair amount of light to the leaves.

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Yes I have considered it! I've been scared to do it because it is my first scrog but I plan on doing some work with the trimmers tonight, Ill post pics later

That's looking great bud. Scrog tastic. And definately too many buds, a total disaster!

I'm not gonna worry too much about the leaf this time, first attempt and all, but the couple of branches I did strip seem to have filled out more evenly, and down closer to the screen, so next time there will be more thinning. Maybe at the same time I strip out under the screen, about at the end of stretch?

Another alternative for this run may be to harvest the more developed buds at the top and leave the lower stuff to finish in it's own time. I'll see how it looks come harvest time. Opinions on 2 stage harvest?

nice coverage there budbrother.. everything looks spot on.. what strain you working with?

And growan to send a pm (conversation) you need to click on the persons avatar and then click start conversation.. just found out myself..

I'll get the hang of this sooner or later...
I feel like my dad trying to use a dvd player...

dr green dre said:

nice coverage there budbrother.. everything looks spot on.. what strain you working with?

And growan to send a pm (conversation) you need to click on the persons avatar and then click start conversation.. just found out myself..

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Thanks Dr green there's 3 plants under there 2 Holy grail kush and 1 OG #18 450 watt hps 3 gal pots FFOF GH flora series nutes

Growan said:

Another alternative for this run may be to harvest the more developed buds at the top and leave the lower stuff to finish in it's own time. I'll see how it looks come harvest time. Opinions on 2 stage harvest?

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I was definitely considering the double harvest but I have clones growing that are going to be waaaaaay ready for the flower tent in 4 weeks when I harvest so I will probably get another run going vs. letting the popcorn bulk up

same 'problem' here. The clones I took as an experiment are actually doing ok. I've got another tent and even room to put it up. What I haven't got us lights to put in it. My 400w ballast is shot, though I have the bulb and hood. Don't really have spare cash at the moment either. It's all spend, spend spend.
The issue still remains that the clones are gonna be massive in a fortnight, and nowhere to go. :/ oopz

Well I've just had to post in the 'plant problems' section so I've come here to post something to cheer myself up. Ah, equilibrium...

....and still having problems putting up pictures...

That ScrOG is perfect. Last thing I would do is cut out budsites.

my man budbrother has done a beautiful job with that screen. I think neo is beung ironic, as there was some heavy banter with regards to removing leaves to improve light distribution in a 'defoliation' thread. The implication here being those buds are casting too much shadow!

Ahh, gotcha!