The perfect child

Red1966 said:

Hitler wanted to use science to "improve" his master race. The less than "perfect" children will still be killed.

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Umm cool.. Do you think I'm gonna go around killing a bunch of jews now?

Hepheastus420 said:

I can safely admit that I'm inferior to other humans. Do I like it? Hell no.. so why not help improve mankind as a whole?

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If you're "inferior"(not saying you are), then you would be prevented from having children. Eugenics is another form of racism.

Winter Woman said:

Talk about a conspiracy theorist! Do you believe everything you hear in school or don't you think for yourself anymore?

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like i said, I dont believe it, just hypothetical. Please dont attack me on my critical thinking, its just a conjecture

Winter Woman said:

Talk about a conspiracy theorist! Do you believe everything you hear in school or don't you think for yourself anymore?

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No urca is right. The rich would be able to do that. But I don't think they would want their child to be their slave. They'd want the poor to be their slaves. But the poor would have to say "oh okay you have full rights to give me a slave child and make me care for it while you control the masses"..

Hepheastus420 said:

haha this is how conspiracies start. A paranoid man can easily say that this is already happening.. The rich have control of science and of us. Of course that paranoid person would be dumb in saying that IMO. lol funny you mention nwo.. I think it's a decent idea if they go about it the right way.

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An honest liberal!

Urca said:

who says they have a choice? Im not saying its gonna happen, but you have to look at the potential consequences. And ww, its entirely possible that in non developed countries that coporations with a vested interest in having cheap, vast amounts of labor. even countries would have an interest in it if they could get away with it, and would benefit from it

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Urca, Urca, Urca, do you really believe that line you are trying to sell? Are you saying that a woman would allow herself to be a host for a corporation to have a worker bee for money???

Red1966 said:

If you're "inferior"(not saying you are), then you would be prevented from having children. Eugenics is another form of racism.

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True. I wouldn't be able to afford it even if I wanted to do it. Why would I be prevented from having children though? Nothing changes for the lower class.

Well one day all the robots we create will finally realise shit, we are actually better than these humans controlling us, lol

Hepheastus420 said:

No urca is right. The rich would be able to do that. But I don't think they would want their child to be their slave. They'd want the poor to be their slaves. But the poor would have to say "oh okay you have full rights to give me a slave child and make me care for it while you control the masses"..

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hypothetically they wouldnt really have a choice or really even know what was going on before too late.
i like speculating, but i doubt it will happen

Urca said:

hmm ok here's another idea, most cultures on the planet prefer male children, doesnt matter the race. if they could afford it, they'd engineer a boy... will we have a world full of and for men, with the few women allowed to be born to be used as breeders? A woman would be sent back to the past role she occupied if that world came about

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Do that already with selective abortion. Next.

Hepheastus420 said:

No urca is right. The rich would be able to do that. But I don't think they would want their child to be their slave. They'd want the poor to be their slaves. But the poor would have to say "oh okay you have full rights to give me a slave child and make me care for it while you control the masses"..

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And therein is the flaw.

Winter Woman said:

Urca, Urca, Urca, do you really believe that line you are trying to sell? Are you saying that a woman would allow herself to be a host for a corporation to have a worker bee for money???

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Exactly why I said it wouldn't happen in one of my posts up there ^^^^..

Winter Woman said:

Urca, Urca, Urca, do you really believe that line you are trying to sell? Are you saying that a woman would allow herself to be a host for a corporation to have a worker bee for money???

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in this situation, there would be no choice. it would kind of happen naturally, with a large group of people interbreeding and being watered down, centralizing disease within this population.
It'd make a fabulous book, enough to compete with huxley

Winter Woman said:

Talk about a conspiracy theorist! Do you believe everything you hear in school or don't you think for yourself anymore?

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I have never seen this side of you...

Hot.

Tenner said:

Well one day all the robots we create will finally realise shit, we are actually better than these humans controlling us, lol

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lol urca took the thread wayy off topic (even though I liked thinking about her scenario).. There would be no mass control lol.

I wouldn't want to engineer my child. Just because it would always be in the back of my head - what would my child have been like if I hadn't tampered with their DNA? It just doesn't feel right on a moral level.

Urca said:

in this situation, there would be no choice. it would kind of happen naturally, with a large group of people interbreeding and being watered down, centralizing disease within this population.
It'd make a fabulous book, enough to compete with huxley

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Then it isn't an engineered baby

Hepheastus420 said:

lol urca took the thread wayy off topic (even though I liked thinking about her scenario).. There would be no mass control lol.

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lol i know, people fight when they know they are endangered

Winter Woman said:

Then it isn't an engineered baby

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the rich would have the engineered babies, the poor would breed inferior babies, fuck, they could even have certain genes introduced into their gene pool.

Hepheastus420 said:

I know science has found many cures for natural diseases. I know that the human life span has increased due to the help of science. I know that the majority of people appreciate what science has done for us (including you typing on your pc). Nature is a bitch. She kills us like all the other animals. Science is our shield. That's why we are the most superior animal. Top of the food chain dude.

And we have discussed the risk factors. You too have the fear.. I don't think scientists will stop because you're scared. (I'm pretty scared too).

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I never said they should. To "fear" is human. It helps keep us safe from danger. Don't get me wrong, I love science. I have an advanced degree in chemistry and am not against progress or anything like that. However, considering the risk factors whenever altering the natural order in such ways is of utmost importance. Our very survival as a species MAY depend on it! Splitting the atom opened up the possibilities of producing relatively cheap energy for the world. That same technology also gave us perhaps our best method to destroy ourselves. Understanding this and recognizing it is as important as progress if not moreso. It's counterproductive to take a step forward only to find we've fallen back 5.