The perfect child

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Red1966 said:
Sounds like Hitler's "master" race.

No. Hitler was an evil man that destroyed others. Science could improve others. It wouldn't have an intention to hurt a damn fly.

Fungus Gnat · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
No. Hitler was an evil man that destroyed others. Science could improve others. It wouldn't have an intention to hurt a damn fly.

Bad things tend to happen when you label others as inferior. Whether real or imagined.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
who says they have a choice? Im not saying its gonna happen, but you have to look at the potential consequences. And ww, its entirely possible that in non developed countries that coporations with a vested interest in having cheap, vast amounts of labor. even countries would have an interest in it if they could get away with it, and would benefit from it

Yeah ignore that post. I got what you're saying during the post under that one. Please explain the consequences. I'm not saying there's none.. I'm just wondering which ones you are thinking of.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Fungus Gnat said:
Bad things tend to happen when you label others as inferior. Whether real or imagined.

I can safely admit that I'm inferior to other humans. Do I like it? Hell no.. so why not help improve mankind as a whole?

Urca · May 31, 2012

if people are bred to be less intelligent than rich babies, then they will think its life as usual to live, work, die, with some joys and freedoms, but not like the way the rich babies will be, who will be the inventors, the politicians, the leaders, etc. we're creating a new world order. the poor will get sick and die, after having a not so pleasent life, riddled with hard work.
the rich will have to work hard as well, but they will have the advantage of boosted intelligence, boosted immune system, boosted oppurtunities, and the ability to extort those below them

Tenner · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
Wouldn't it be cool to make your dreams a reality? You'd set the limits in what you want.

And thats what Ketamine is for

Red1966 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
Oh dumb.. I get what you're saying urca. You're saying that the rich could create a whole new generation of dumbasses to be their slaves right? Hmm.. if they're dumb, would it really matter to them what happens?

Of course it would. You're saying if some one is inferior (in who's judgement?), it justifies enslavement.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
if people are bred to be less intelligent than rich babies, then they will think its life as usual to live, work, die, with some joys and freedoms, but not like the way the rich babies will be, who will be the inventors, the politicians, the leaders, etc. we're creating a new world order

haha this is how conspiracies start. A paranoid man can easily say that this is already happening.. The rich have control of science and of us. Of course that paranoid person would be dumb in saying that IMO.

lol funny you mention nwo.. I think it's a decent idea if they go about it the right way.

doc111 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
I can safely admit that I'm inferior to other humans. Do I like it? Hell no.. so why not help improve mankind as a whole?

Haven't we learned yet that whenever you fuck with nature, you end up with some other unintended consequence that is usually worse than the problem you were trying to fix to begin with? We can't control all variables, and with genetic engineering, we are learning that most genes have more than one purpose, and when you remove that gene or alter it for the trait/s you want, you wind up fucking something else up in the process. It's the scientific equivalent of a "dog chasing its tail". :-(

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Red1966 said:
Of course it would. You're saying if some one is inferior (in who's judgement?), it justifies enslavement.

How would it matter to them? The rich could make them the happiest slaves ever. We are already slaves to the rich.. now imagine being happier. Inferior.. Like I said it would be in your eyes who's inferior.. On a more grand scale the masses would pick and choose who's inferior or not. But that's already happening anyways. I didn't say it would justify it.. I said they would be dickheads.. Read my posts more carefully.

Red1966 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
Why would parents kill you? They are still creating you not destroying you lol.

They would still be destroying the children that aren't "perfect". How do you think "gender selection" works?

Winter Woman · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
yeah, like rich people tend to breed with other rich people, and poor people tend to have more children... so the rich have the ability to remove all genetic defects, while the poor are left the bad genes, mass reproduced, and maybe even the powerful will introduce bane genteics into the lower class gene pool

Urca, your inverted snobbery is showing.

From past history as an example in health care the trickle down theory does work. If we used your theory low-income people wouldn't have insulin pumps, open-heart surgery, prosthetics, babies being born in hospitals, etc.

Urca, you really are stretching the limits here. Do you actually believe that the person or university that creates these... these babies won't want everyone's greenback? Do you know Macy's stores don't you? Did you know that they were among the first to let people of color in? Do you know why? Because their money was green. That comment came out of the mouth of the ceo at the time.

I don't think it is a great idea to do this. Because a monoculture is not a good idea in plants I'm sure it is not a good idea in people.

Urca · May 31, 2012

lol heph read my new edit

Urca · May 31, 2012

Winter Woman said:
Urca, your inverted snobbery is showing.

From past history as an example in health care the trickle down theory does work. If we used your theory low-income people wouldn't have insulin pumps, open-heart surgery, prosthetics, babies being born in hospitals, etc.

Urca, you really are stretching the limits here. Do you actually believe that the person or university that creates these... these babies won't want everyone's greenback? Do you know Macy's stores don't you? Did you know that they were among the first to let people of color in? Do you know why? Because their money was green. That comment came out of the mouth of the ceo at the time.

I don't think it is a great idea to do this. Because a monoculture is not a good idea in plants I'm sure it is not a good idea in people.

this is just conjecture. a hypothetical situation. i doubt the rich would actually do that

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

doc111 said:
Haven't we learned yet that whenever you fuck with nature, you end up with some other unintended consequence that is usually worse than the problem you were trying to fix to begin with? We can't control all variables, and with genetic engineering, we are learning that most genes have more than one purpose, and when you remove that gene or alter it for the trait/s you want, you wind up fucking something else up in the process. It's the scientific equivalent of a "dog chasing its tail".

I know science has found many cures for natural diseases. I know that the human life span has increased due to the help of science. I know that the majority of people appreciate what science has done for us (including you typing on your pc). Nature is a bitch. She kills us like all the other animals. Science is our shield. That's why we are the most superior animal. Top of the food chain dude.

And we have discussed the risk factors. You too have the fear.. I don't think scientists will stop because you're scared. (I'm pretty scared too).

Red1966 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
No. Hitler was an evil man that destroyed others. Science could improve others. It wouldn't have an intention to hurt a damn fly.

Hitler wanted to use science to "improve" his master race. The less than "perfect" children will still be killed.

Winter Woman · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
Yeah it's not a rich mans fault that a poor man wouldn't be able to afford a "new" child.

I think she meant more frail and diseased than the newer rich family child.

That's true. Intelligence alone doesn't make somebody successful. But you must admit it helps a shit ton.

It helps to know how to work the system more than anything else.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Red1966 said:
They would still be destroying the children that aren't "perfect". How do you think "gender selection" works?

Oh yeah.. lol my bad. Evolution involves mutations and selections. I guess it would be a sacrafice for the better good of mankind.

Winter Woman · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
if you can remove bad genes, why not introduce them to maintain power and status?
Wouldnt you want a mass orde of subintelligent, sickly people who are less likely to rebel?

Talk about a conspiracy theorist! Do you believe everything you hear in school or don't you think for yourself anymore?

Urca · May 31, 2012

hmm ok here's another idea, most cultures on the planet prefer male children, doesnt matter the race. if they could afford it, they'd engineer a boy... will we have a world full of and for men, with the few women allowed to be born to be used as breeders? A woman would be sent back to the past role she occupied if that world came about

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