The perfect child

Hepheastus420

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I can give a valid argument, we talked about it in my bio class.
if we have the ability to design our babies, make them perfectly healthy, with no flaws in their genes, it will only be availiable to the rich. we would have this super class of healthy, smart, beautiful people, who could dominate and a subclass of poor, unhealthy, unintelligent "workers", who are bound to be more diseased, more frail, easily dominated.
What would that matter? Give a couple of generations and the weak will die out. I'm not saying that's a good thing btw.

Now all of this is just assuming we wouldn't fuck up 4 billion years of amazing evolution.. which of course is a huge assumption.. But come on, we have imaginations don't we?
 

dirtsurfr

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Like this isn't happening right now???
I can give a valid argument, we talked about it in my bio class.
if we have the ability to design our babies, make them perfectly healthy, with no flaws in their genes, it will only be availiable to the rich. we would have this super class of healthy, smart, beautiful people, who could dominate and a subclass of poor, unhealthy, unintelligent "workers", who are bound to be more diseased, more frail, easily dominated.
 

Winter Woman

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I can give a valid argument, we talked about it in my bio class.
if we have the ability to design our babies, make them perfectly healthy, with no flaws in their genes, it will only be availiable to the rich. we would have this super class of healthy, smart, beautiful people, who could dominate and a subclass of poor, unhealthy, unintelligent "workers", who are bound to be more diseased, more frail, easily dominated.
Urca, I like it then I unliked it. Just because something is only available to the wealthy doesn't mean it should be denied.

Like always first the wealthy then the rest of us. Plus the idea of more diseased, more frail, etc., is wrong. No one would be made more frail or diseased, they would just be as they were made with original equipment.

Just because someone is smart will not mean they will be successful. Just because someone is smart doesn't make them creative.
 

Urca

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Urca, I like it then I unliked it. Because just because something is only available to the wealthy doesn't mean it should denied.

Like always first the wealthy then the rest of us. Plus the idea of more diseased, more frail, etc., is wrong. No one would be made more frail or diseased, they would just be as they were made with original equipment.

Just because someone is smart will not mean they will be successful. Just because someone is smart doesn't make them creative.
im not saying because they're wealthy that they shouldnt be allowed, its the ethics of being able to breed a sub class of workers, and a class of rulers.
 

dirtsurfr

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Once we decide to rely on science to make us perfect then what happens when we loose the ability to evolve.
 

Hepheastus420

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Urca, I like it then I unliked it. Because just because something is only available to the wealthy doesn't mean it should denied.

Like always first the wealthy then the rest of us. Plus the idea of more diseased, more frail, etc., is wrong. No one would be made more frail or diseased, they would just be as they were made with original equipment.

Just because someone is smart will not mean they will be successful. Just because someone is smart doesn't make them creative.
Yeah it's not a rich mans fault that a poor man wouldn't be able to afford a "new" child.

I think she meant more frail and diseased than the newer rich family child.

That's true. Intelligence alone doesn't make somebody successful. But you must admit it helps a shit ton.
 

Hepheastus420

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Once we decide to rely on science to make us perfect then what happens when we loose the ability to evolve.
We'd still be able to evolve. But of course there's risks in everything. We could fuck up the "natural" flow of things. your fear of something new is understandable :). I have that same fear sometimes.
 

Urca

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yeah, like rich people tend to breed with other rich people, and poor people tend to have more children... so the rich have the ability to remove all genetic defects, while the poor are left the bad genes, mass reproduced, and maybe even the powerful will introduce bane genteics into the lower class gene pool
 

Urca

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if you can remove bad genes, why not introduce them to maintain power and status?
Wouldnt you want a mass orde of subintelligent, sickly people who are less likely to rebel?
 

Winter Woman

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im not saying because they're wealthy that they shouldnt be allowed, its the ethics of being able to breed a sub class of workers, and a class of rulers.
I didn't believe that they'll use a poor woman's womb to breed a worker bee. Actually, Urca, they are making 'engineered' babies already by purchasing eggs and sperm from those that are blessed with great genes.
 

Hepheastus420

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if you can remove bad genes, why not introduce them to maintain power and status?
Wouldnt you want a mass orde of subintelligent, sickly people who are less likely to rebel?
Depends on if you're a dickhead or not. Why would the poor give power over their children to the rich though?
 

Red1966

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Think about it this way. Someday your child (assuming you have a child of course) will go through depression. Wouldn't you not want to put your child through that? Or how about people with schizophrenia? No child would ever have to deal with that. Same goes with babies born with other problems.
You can't deal with anyproblem if your parents kill you. I'd rather be alive and depressed than dead and discarded. That would be REALLY depressing.
 

Hepheastus420

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Oh dumb.. I get what you're saying urca. You're saying that the rich could create a whole new generation of dumbasses to be their slaves right? Hmm.. if they're dumb, would it really matter to them what happens?
 

Hepheastus420

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would u really want to have the world just covered by people that are all alike and all maggots like yourself. then the planet would really just suck and be lame. its already so far out of wack were all chap
Why assume that it would become more out of whack? We could prevent things like anger which causes war and fights. And I'm not talking about robots. I'm talking about people with a heart, brain, and emotions.
 

Urca

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Depends on if you're a dickhead or not. Why would the poor give power over their children to the rich though?
who says they have a choice? Im not saying its gonna happen, but you have to look at the potential consequences. And ww, its entirely possible that in non developed countries that coporations with a vested interest in having cheap, vast amounts of labor. even countries would have an interest in it if they could get away with it, and would benefit from it
 
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