Yeah sorry, I was referring to the biomass not CEC.
So maybe we should say that some, not most, hmri products are safe.
synthetics nutes don't kill the soils web of life. Anything can be bad. Yes if u put to much nutes on anything u can kill it. Organics or synthesis. All I'm saying is. Synthesis won't kill off , the food of life in the soil. If done right.Yes, it evaporates like chlorine.
Im not arguing that its best practice as ive said before in this post.
It is not a why you should debate,its simply going to show that you can still keep your soil food web booming even if you run through some bottles fo whatever reason.
I see a lot of people spouting on about any bottled nutes killing microbes when this isn't true.
Only point im making
Plenty of reasons to go all water but knowing that bottled nutes is an option without ruining your ecosystem is very pertinent for some scenerios.
Having a 6 month girl running in TLO can be hard to amend without hindsight. Being able to add a little organic matter that is a bit more soluble can pay serious dividends if its between defeciencies or suppliment
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I see a whole lot of people on here swearing that any bottled nutrients are terrible for microbial life
I was hoping to shed a little light on this.
Because a nutrient source comes in a bottle, it does not make it inherently bad practice to use. The hang up lies in the subtleties.
Any fertilizer that has been broken down with chelations (organic or synthetic acids used to break down non soluble organic matter into its soluble form)as well as anything with a high npk will hinder your microbial life just like adding synthetics.
Synthetics: Two main reasons to avoid any synthetic fert and the main reason bottled nutes get their bad name
1, it has been broken down into soluble form for the plant already. This means the plant has access to readily useable npk, and has no use to keep producing root exudates which is what attracts fungus and bacteria to your root system in the first place.Without a exudates (fungus' source of carbon) and some non soluble organics your micro life will starve.
2, synthetic fertilizers have high salt counts. The higher salt levels will create osmotic shock to bacteria as it leaches its moisture out of the cell walls into the higher concentrations of salts. This will kill the soil web real quick.
Bottled organics: This is where things turn a lil more grey. Bottled organic nutrients are NOT inherently bad, and if used correctly they can actually up your TLO game from water only in regards to final product. Again, anything that contains chelation, organic or not, is going to be bad. Essentially its the same effect as synthetic #1. Too much soluble food and the symbiosis of root/microbes is hindered.
However, there are liquid ferts out there that will enhance your biomass rather than deter it. Makes sure you use very low phospherous count. We want to feed the microbes, not hinder. High phospherous in soluble form is very bad for fungus and mycoryzhae. The key here is using your bottles in low doses for teas and allowing things to cook. The added npk in your teas are for the microbes, not your plant. I use a .2-.3-.7 liquid organic additive for my tea. Works wonders especially in longer flowering girls.
Conclusion: dont let those water only snobs form your opinion for youWhen feeding your microbes, a little goes a long ways... plenty of fantastic additives in dry and liquid form out there, it may take some time and research to figure out what will compliment your mix.
ANYTHING HMRI listed is a good start. After that contacting companies to find out if any chelation (key-lay-shun) has been used. If so, this is not a great product for TLO organics and your soil food web.
Any input from reputable sources welcome
Trolling?
another good point. (not the salt statement, that one still doesn't jive)Yes, it evaporates like chlorine.
Im not arguing that its best practice as ive said before in this post.
It is not a why you should debate,its simply going to show that you can still keep your soil food web booming even if you run through some bottles fo whatever reason.
I see a lot of people spouting on about any bottled nutes killing microbes when this isn't true.
Only point im making
Plenty of reasons to go all water but knowing that bottled nutes is an option without ruining your ecosystem is very pertinent for some scenerios.
Having a 6 month girl running in TLO can be hard to amend without hindsight. Being able to add a little organic matter that is a bit more soluble can pay serious dividends if its between defeciencies or suppliment
Continue debate below
liquid kelp and fish emulsion may be organic, but the process they both go through defeats the purpose of using them to begin with.
I dont argue that liquids are better. I am arguing the stance that they can support microbial life.
ok, I gotcha...I dont argue that liquids are better. I am arguing the stance that they can support microbial life.
And asking the difference is more for conversation sake than anything. Just referring back to the murphy's law bit.
EXACTLY!
and I am pissed about the feather meal!
