The Lost Art of Foliar Feeding
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RockDiesel
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Solution 3 from gentlemen growing is what I use. It's the only shit that's not some snake oil BS. Anyone else use it?
OG Gardenz
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If you foliar Kelp its good to add Fulvic Acid, helps penetrate leaf...
For watering in Kelp use Humic Acid... at a 5:2 ratio... 5parts humic to 2parts kelp. At those ratios each one works 50% better! This is from a Virginia Tech. studies
For watering in Kelp use Humic Acid... at a 5:2 ratio... 5parts humic to 2parts kelp. At those ratios each one works 50% better! This is from a Virginia Tech. studies
OG Gardenz
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Forgot to mention key player in foliar sprays, that would be Yucca... this is a spreader or wetting agent also loaded with saponins and micros. Yucca helps make sure you get the most out of whatever your spraying.
Also in my opinion yucca should be added with all nutrient solutions, this allows everything to penetrate and be absorbed by the roots. This creates more roots and uptake and ensures we get the most out of our nutes
Also in my opinion yucca should be added with all nutrient solutions, this allows everything to penetrate and be absorbed by the roots. This creates more roots and uptake and ensures we get the most out of our nutes
made an account just so i could make fun of ur stupid a**....... moms has been using this homemade weed killer concoction that uses specifically epson salts, vinegar and dish soap.
back to the drawing board ahole! telling people the completely wrong sh*t!
OG Gardenz
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I second that! Feeding people a load of crap..
thetallguy
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Definitely add Fulvic Acid to the foliar feed mix!
Like OG Gardenz said, it will help chelate your nutrients so they are more readily accessible to the plant! I grabbed a liter of Nutri-Plus Pure Gold (31% FA) a few months back and it's been great.
Like OG Gardenz said, it will help chelate your nutrients so they are more readily accessible to the plant! I grabbed a liter of Nutri-Plus Pure Gold (31% FA) a few months back and it's been great.
qwizoking
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i posted in this thread just to make fun of your stupid ass..but dont feel bad, the idiocy in this thread is truly astounding and ive seen some real doozies
pufferfish
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Exactly my thought after reading through this whole thread from the beginning. UB is like an irrelevant old timer trying to be relevant again and failing miserably. For people reading just the last few pages, the OP already debunked all UB's bullshit with scientific proof back on the first 10 pages or so. Now UBs bullying people with his usual 40+years of irrelevant experience.
Foliage feeding works well in conjunction with your normal feedings.
sparky big buds
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Who the hell is foiler feeding during the budding stage morons you will ruin your crop only use it the first 3weeks of flower and stop 
sparky big buds
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My friend made this mistake his buds tasted like crap easy mistake to make for the newbie growers out there beware !!!
since1991
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This report and this lady have since been proven to be full of shit. Iam going with what a respected doctor and botanist told me in Lansing (inside a giant msu greenhouse none the less) regarding "foliar feeding". Kelp and fulvics to be exact. It is by far the best bloom "setter" during the first 2 weeks of 12-12. From experience i spray Nitrozime and Fulpower (or Fossil Fuel) every 5 to 6 days from rooted cutting until the first 18 days of flowering. This and a base nute like dyna or Ionic is all i use most of my crops and rooms. Maybe a pk booster during week 4 or 5 and thats it.
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Uncle Ben
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FWIW, last year was a record year regarding my small vineyard, all vines were foliar fed with a very small application of high N plant food to the soil. 195 vines, sold 3,050 lbs.! Used frequent applications of DG Foliage-Pro for no other reason than convenience - 3 pt. tractor mounted, PTO driven, 60 mph air blaster with adjustable nozzles. The root system is the primary unit for the uptake of nutrients.
Dr. Chalker is as good as it gets when it comes to blowing thru the myths. Her Bottom Line must be taken into context.
The Bottom Line
• Tree and shrub species differ dramatically in their ability to absorb foliar fertilizers.
• Proper plant selection relative to soil type is crucial to appropriate mineral nutrition.
• Foliar spraying is best accomplished on overcast, cool days to reduce leaf burn.
• In landscape plants, foliar spraying can test for nutrient deficiencies, but not solve them.
• Micronutrients are the only minerals that are effectively applied through foliar application.
• Foliar application will not alleviate mineral deficiencies in roots or subsequent crown growth.
• Foliar spraying is only a temporary solution to the larger problem of soil nutrient availability.
• Minerals (especially micronutrients) applied in amounts that exceed a plant’s needs can injure or kill the plant and contribute to environmental pollution.
• Any benefit from foliar spraying of landscape trees and shrubs is minor considering the cost and labor required.
Kelp, fulvic acid, pk boosters and other rocket fuels targeted by greedy vendor to sucker bets do not "set blooms". Hormones and leaves do.
Dr. Chalker is as good as it gets when it comes to blowing thru the myths. Her Bottom Line must be taken into context.
The Bottom Line
• Tree and shrub species differ dramatically in their ability to absorb foliar fertilizers.
• Proper plant selection relative to soil type is crucial to appropriate mineral nutrition.
• Foliar spraying is best accomplished on overcast, cool days to reduce leaf burn.
• In landscape plants, foliar spraying can test for nutrient deficiencies, but not solve them.
• Micronutrients are the only minerals that are effectively applied through foliar application.
• Foliar application will not alleviate mineral deficiencies in roots or subsequent crown growth.
• Foliar spraying is only a temporary solution to the larger problem of soil nutrient availability.
• Minerals (especially micronutrients) applied in amounts that exceed a plant’s needs can injure or kill the plant and contribute to environmental pollution.
• Any benefit from foliar spraying of landscape trees and shrubs is minor considering the cost and labor required.
Kelp, fulvic acid, pk boosters and other rocket fuels targeted by greedy vendor to sucker bets do not "set blooms". Hormones and leaves do.
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Flowki
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If you have half a L of left over neut from soil feed, is it a particularly bad Idea to dilute it down with half/full L of fresh water and use that for a weeks worth of fol feed?.
Further more, is it not possible/easier to add this water to a in range set humidifier and let that do all the work?.
Further more, is it not possible/easier to add this water to a in range set humidifier and let that do all the work?.
since1991
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Kelp extracts sprayed on the plant every week or so until 3 weeks into flower....very noticeable difference for me with it. I done side by sides several times. It is the hormones iam after. And kelp is LOADED with the hormones my crops like. I invite anyone that knows what they are doing and has a decent reliable and consistent variety and setup to try a kelp extract and fulvic acid spray (make sure to use a yucca based wetting agent - just a little bit per quart spray bottle) themselves once a week next to the same plant without. Go ahead and top and prune for bushy lateral growth but give one cutting the foliar hormone spray and the other with out. Then flip to flower as usual. Nothing different....same base nutrient feed...same everything....rite alongside each other under the lamps in the room...except the weekly foliar spray. Stop spraying about 3 weeks on the one (if you veg long...it will be obvious before then the effects of the foliar sprayed plant....WAY before the flip to flower). Then report your results here after chop...trim...dry ...cure...and weigh in. I have.....and its not even close.
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Flowki
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What exact products do you use for this, do you ph, do you spray under side of leaves, does it matter if the soil fed neuts are synthetic.
Uncle Ben
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How do you know that, because some sucker ad said so? Had it tested at a lab? Does the plant need supplemental hormones and if available would they interfere with its own natural hormonal processes or actually help?
You drank the cannabis rocket fuels kool-aid. It's human nature to see what you expect or want to see to justify your approach.
Here's the skinny on kelp for those who seek a sound professional approach: https://puyallup.wsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/403/2015/03/seaweed-extracts.pdf
You're also contributing to screwing up a fragile eco system.
5) Marketing: “Manufacturers’ claims for the benefits of these products go beyond what is
substantiated by the research.” “The number of products now on the market seems to outnumber the
published papers.”
These researchers’ conclusions say it all – seaweed extracts are aggressively marketed with little regard
for objective, scientific research. There is a final concern never addressed, which is the justification for
large-scale removal of vegetation from one ecosystem (the marine kelp “forests”) for application to
another (terrestrial landscapes). The ecological impacts of increased seaweed harvesting are currently
under investigation and the possibility of significant ecosystem damage is real. There is no argument that
seaweed products are useful and valuable to humans for the reasons discussed earlier. However, given
that there are few documented benefits from applying seaweed extracts to plants, this is not a justifiable
nor sustainable practice. The marketing of such products as “earth friendly” in this context should be
repugnant to environmentally conscious consumers.