The Irish Growers Thread!

90'sStoner said:
Those spider farmer are about 100-150 quid. Personally I'd go for a decent, knock off, over brand name lights. Either will kick your current lamps arse tho
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Yeah originally I was looking for a knock off but by the time shipping was included the price was the same, Spider Farmer seem to have discount codes going all the time. I think I got mine for €135 and shipping was free. Do you mind me asking how much the knock off was? Was it yourself who posted the link to alibaba a few months ago when I was asking which to go for?
 
LEDGROWSHOP.CO.UK said:
I can ship to Ireland if your after any top HLG quality, lads. Ive wasted a lot of money on cheap brands in my time, led grow lights have a wide quality range
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Same here on blurple crap but now the lm301b panels are doing the trick

What the link to your shop won't mind having a look
 
Francoblanco said:
Yeah originally I was looking for a knock off but by the time shipping was included the price was the same, Spider Farmer seem to have discount codes going all the time. I think I got mine for €135 and shipping was free. Do you mind me asking how much the knock off was? Was it yourself who posted the link to alibaba a few months ago when I was asking which to go for?
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I got 2 sets of 2 panels, with the Samsung lm301b and ir diodes, and dimmable drivers. Each panel can take up to 120w each. And like Fishbulb said, built a frame. Think I paid just under €250 for the lot, which just made sense at the time because the same total wattage in a SF woulda cost me about twice that. Yea id say it was either me or Fishbulb that posted it. Here's the one I got, though its not listed anymore
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I suppose what ya wanna weigh up is the total wattage between models, the quality of parts used, and how much ya wanna spend
 
LEDGROWSHOP.CO.UK said:
Some of the lights are yeah. They are top shelf quality though HLG, second to none

The kit section does reasonable price ones which are still highest quality.

No comparison to all that Chinese stuff which for the big lights is still high hundreds euros now
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Whats HLG mean? What diodes do they use? From what I've seen the Samsung lm301b are the best bang for your buck.

I dunno if I'd agree, it would cost close to €650 to build a 520w rig. Whereas I spent just shy of €250 euro for my 480w setup which was "plug n play".

It's totally compareable. We compare the parts used and the price asked, where its made makes little difference.
 
90'sStoner said:
Whats HLG mean? What diodes do they use? From what I've seen the Samsung lm301b are the best bang for your buck.

I dunno if I'd agree, it would cost close to €650 to build a 520w rig. Whereas I spent just shy of €250 euro for my 480w setup which was "plug n play".

It's totally compareable. We compare the parts used and the price asked, where its made makes little difference.
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LM301B are old now, 301H replaced them as the B chips corrode in humidity.

HLG aka Horticulture Lighting Group are the official partner of Samsung. They invented the Quantum Board - what everyone rips off now.

A single HLG Diablo board has 648 leds. Other companies use less than half but pump up the current.

Im not knocking other lights but HLG are top quality and will last.

Latest HLG is 2.9umol per watt. Not sure what those B chips are but probably something like 2.2umol.

If you watch Migro Channel Youtube, Shane has then as No 1 on his League table.
 
LEDGROWSHOP.CO.UK said:
LM301B are old now, 301H replaced them as the B chips corrode in humidity.

HLG aka Horticulture Lighting Group are the official partner of Samsung. They invented the Quantum Board - what everyone rips off now.

A single HLG Diablo board has 648 leds. Other companies use less than half but pump up the current.

Im not knocking other lights but HLG are top quality and will last.

Latest HLG is 2.9umol per watt. Not sure what those B chips are but probably something like 2.2umol.

If you watch Migro Channel Youtube, Shane has then as No 1 on his League table.
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LEDGROWSHOP.CO.UK said:
LM301B are old now, 301H replaced them as the B chips corrode in humidity.

HLG aka Horticulture Lighting Group are the official partner of Samsung. They invented the Quantum Board - what everyone rips off now.

A single HLG Diablo board has 648 leds. Other companies use less than half but pump up the current.

Im not knocking other lights but HLG are top quality and will last.

Latest HLG is 2.9umol per watt. Not sure what those B chips are but probably something like 2.2umol.

If you watch Migro Channel Youtube, Shane has then as No 1 on his League table.
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I'd forgotten they'd upgraded to the lm301h tbh.

The diabolo is even more expensive though and a larger light. (The lm301b are 2.7umol AFAIK.) how does the 260w kit match up to this spec wise?


Cause its specs we really wanna compare.
 
90'sStoner said:
I'd forgotten they'd upgraded to the lm301h tbh.

The diabolo is even more expensive though and a larger light. (The lm301b are 2.7umol AFAIK.) how does the 260w kit match up to this spec wise?


Cause its specs we really wanna compare.
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Those Chinese specs are stabs in the dark. They like to quote the efficacy of a single led, then use cheap PCBs and wiring etc. HLG quote system efficacy.

What is well known is anything by HLG is better than any other brand's spec.

Appreciate theres a budget for everything so thats most important. But when I see folk pay 5-600 GBP/EUR for some dodgy Chinese junk, I think just paying 20% more for all long warranty and local customer service is priceless.

Ive had lights burn up. I wont mention name on here, they offered to charge me for a new driver and postage. Thanks for that.
 
LEDGROWSHOP.CO.UK said:
Those Chinese specs are stabs in the dark. They like to quote the efficacy of a single led, then use cheap PCBs and wiring etc. HLG quote system efficacy.

What is well known is anything by HLG is better than any other brand's spec.

Appreciate theres a budget for everything so thats most important. But when I see folk pay 5-600 GBP/EUR for some dodgy Chinese junk, I think just paying 20% more for all long warranty and local customer service is priceless.

Ive had lights burn up. I wont mention name on here, they offered to charge me for a new driver and postage. Thanks for that.
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I dunno, they give a fairly good break down of the parts used and the specs of each part (which allows ya to research em too). I can't find the specs for the 260w rig on your site, which makes it impossible to compare as a buyer. So I don't understand how it can be well known? It can be believed and said but without direct comparison of parts or specs it's impossible to know
 
According to the data sheet, the LM301H LED has the same electrical and optical characteristics as the LM301B variant. It is available in different colour temperatures from 2200K to 6500K and in colour rendering index CRI 70-90.

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Samsung LM301H vs. LM301B | The Best Grow LEDs 2020

With grow LEDs the highest efficiency is always required. We compare Samsung LM301H vs. LM301B. The result is a surprise!
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Information lm301b Vs lm301h
 
Fishbulb said:
According to the data sheet, the LM301H LED has the same electrical and optical characteristics as the LM301B variant. It is available in different colour temperatures from 2200K to 6500K and in colour rendering index CRI 70-90.

cre.science

Samsung LM301H vs. LM301B | The Best Grow LEDs 2020

With grow LEDs the highest efficiency is always required. We compare Samsung LM301H vs. LM301B. The result is a surprise!
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Information lm301b Vs lm301h
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I see this an awful lot, from other people trying to sell their products.

Compare the datasheet for Samsung LM301H ( for Horticulture Lighting Group only not the general LM301H ) to general LM301B dude

The devil is always in the detail

Theres a whole difference between the HLG 301H and some avergage bin 301B, not to mention Bs corrode in grow environments.
 
90'sStoner said:
I dunno, they give a fairly good break down of the parts used and the specs of each part (which allows ya to research em too). I can't find the specs for the 260w rig on your site, which makes it impossible to compare as a buyer. So I don't understand how it can be well known? It can be believed and said but without direct comparison of parts or specs it's impossible to know
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I agree dude, there is some missing info from the page - I will get it updated. Thanks for letting me know
 
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