The Homogenization Of Cannabis...

EdGreyfox

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Jester,

Where do you get that cannabis was first found in China and the Himalayas and then carried everywhere else by humans? The oldest civilizations we know about were in the middle east and northeast Africa, and the evidence show they used cannabis (hemp) for rope and various other purposes, so what evidence is there that they had to learn about it from less advanced cultures to their East? And how did it get to the America's when there wasn't any human contact between the continents for gods knows how many 1000's of years? Let's face it, nobody can really say where a plant as common as cannabis originated, and it's far more likely that it spread through natural means (i.e. on the wind, got eaten and pooped by a bird, etc) then that it was spread around the planet by man. Heck, we can't even pin down where/when our own species really originated, so why believe we know where a plant (that probably predates us) comes from?

As to the main topic of the thread, i can see both sides. The land race strains need to be preserved in their "pure" form, and in numbers large enough to make them easily available to breeders that want to work with them. I also understand the desire to have lots of strains, and to crossbreed with the land race strains. After all, everyone that's into breeding wants to create their own personal strain that nobody else has, and they all want it to be "the best" (whatever that is). Frankly, we need both. The landrace strains have to be preserved for their genetics, even if their THC content isn't as high as some people would like. However, you can't really do much to improve them without crossbreeding, so we also need the hybrids. I agree that it's starting to get to the point that there are a ton of hybrids that have different names but virtually identical characteristics, and i'd like to see more focus on perfecting the best hybrid strains and less expended developing yet another purple this or lemon that. Seems to me that you would have a better chance of creating knock your socks off smoke by inbreeding/recrossing an existing hybrid line to reinforce the most desirable traits then you would by starting a brand new cross where the genetics would be totally unpredictable.
 

d.c. beard

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Jester was probably referring to a semi-recent article about the oldest archeological finding of cannabis being in China (NW i believe...?) and it was carbon dated to like 2400 B.C. or something. So it precedes all previous findings of actual cannabis use, as prior to that I believe there were only references to the Scythians breathing in the smoke from bonfires and becoming drunk with happiness, or also early accounts of bhang usage.

I think people seem to equate superiority with potency most times, but in reality there are many other traits intrinsically inherent to cannabis that can be used to produce stellar strains and offspring. Examples are flavor/smell profile, stature, structure, drought and disease resistance, yield, etc.

I think in the end we all want to end up with a killer, super-potent strain. However, you have to not let yourself lose sight of the other important factors and variables too along the way to truly end up with a top-notch product. It's not ALL about potency, just a lot about potency. And without other options out there to breed with we are limiting ourselves unnecessarily.
 

Jester88

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thanks dc beard but no thats not where i was comming from :)

well i gone done did the research and these are my findings. hey im not gonna argue whose right whos wrong though im confident in what i say. im writing a book that looks into a lot of aspects of the cannabis plant and of course how to grow some nice medacine.

LESSER ADVANCED I THINK NOT
the first evidance of what could be viewed as paper was first invented in china from cannabis (cai lune- not spelled acurately of course :P)... the eqyptians adapted his method and became the best known manufactures.. thats why everyone thinks the egyptians invented it and not there papyrus...

when you follow the recordings around. its earliest uses record back to 7000BC in china..... this is long before any recordings of there being smoked though it would have been even then as back then we didnt actually have what we call hemp today there was only cannabis sativa. then indica and ruderallis and the rest.

to cut a long story short it seems very logical and i have to agree that the plant started off around china and the himilayas... from there it started a very magical journey. up and around the big land mass eventually to africa (yes i believe it may have spread here naturally over time) and to europe.... not to europe then africa i think they got it around the same time or at least close too within the century or so. as the first recordings of cannabis being in africa were from a trade.

how did it get to america.... european travelers.

how did it get to australia..... the english sent there convicts to australia to gro there cannabis as marco polo was making it rather hard for them to safely secure there canabis needs.

IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH YOU WOULD SEE WHAT THE FUCK IM ON ABOUT ED.
AND IF YOU READ WHAT I SAID I SAID THE HANDS OF MAN AND NATURAL COURSES

when i refer to this i mean the scythians persians etc.. (nomadic people and civilizations) etc.. where they went so did this lovely plant. and this is how the plant spread from china and the himilayas.. i mentioned natural means too.

(i actually reckon that it could have spread to australia naturally too. as it was kinda connected in the past.) refering to the old geological surface of the earth. we were kinda joined.

anyhoo im not in this for a pissing match you have your views i have mine. do some research though and i bet youll see things my way lol.

peace out
j88
 
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