The Great Reset

captainmorgan said:
Large parts of the middle east are becoming unlivable and as they do the people will migrate to survive. The Syrian migration was mostly driven by climate change not the civil war. The Arab spring was about bread riots caused by grain shortages cause by Russian drought, not a yearning for democracy. Large parts of Iran are now in severe drought and the farm animals are dying, they will soon be forced to migrate. This type of stuff is happening all over the planet.
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It is shit like this that makes the troll about 'elites' killing the world almost seem reasonable.

The thing is it is all of us doing the things that are stopping us from being able to finally live on this planet and add to it rather than subtract.

Once we get a handle on a legit/clean way to use ocean water for all our human needs and finding uses for all the material from desalination on land (kind of like our human circulatory system, constantly flowing and being filtered) all this mindless use of our land can reverse and everywhere on our planet could be livable and sustainable.

This could be done, but it would be expensive and a pain in the ass to bring to these areas that don't have any economic benefit to do for the people who have the money.

But what do you want to bet if the land becomes cheap and they buy it all up it will all of a sudden become profitable.
 
Expect armed conflicts in Africa and the middle east over water soon, the rivers lakes and seas are drying up. The Nile river in Egypt is losing water and farmers in some areas are struggling. Only 3% of Egypt is livable and that land is the banks of the Nile, the rest of the country is hash desert. The Dead sea is drying up and the land around it is being swallowed up by sink holes, Turkey has massive wild fires. It's happening in the whole region and only going to get worse faster.
 
captainmorgan said:
Expect armed conflicts in Africa and the middle east over water soon, the rivers lakes and seas are drying up. The Nile river in Egypt is losing water and farmers in some areas are struggling. Only 3% of Egypt is livable and that land is the banks of the Nile, the rest of the country is hash desert. The Dead sea is drying up and the land around it is being swallowed up by sink holes, Turkey has massive wild fires. It's happening in the whole region and only going to get worse faster.
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Shoot, just look at the Western US. The area supplies much of the US and Canada vegetables, they are not doing well. We have areas in my province where they are talking about only having XX days of water left. They are making contingency plans in case it does not rain. It is a little unsettling.
 
printer said:
Shoot, just look at the Western US. The area supplies much of the US and Canada vegetables, they are not doing well. We have areas in my province where they are talking about only having XX days of water left. They are making contingency plans in case it does not rain. It is a little unsettling.
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Everyone thinks the climate changes will be slow, they've been slow for 30 years and we ignored it, I think we are reaching tipping points and the changes from here on out will be major.
 
captainmorgan said:
Everyone thinks the climate changes will be slow, they've been slow for 30 years and we ignored it, I think we are reaching tipping points and the changes from here on out will be major.
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And fast. In the next dacade west of the Mississippi, what doesn't burn will wither of hot drought.
I'm also waiting for the first ice shield catastrophe. My money is on Greenland suddenly raising sealevels four feet.

Repubs will notice the bullet wound in their collective foot around then from their Great Resent.
 
captainmorgan said:
Everyone thinks the climate changes will be slow, they've been slow for 30 years and we ignored it, I think we are reaching tipping points and the changes from here on out will be major.
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"And if it is global warming why is it so cold?"

Because the warm air from the Pacific Ocean went up to the Arctic Circile and pushed the Polar Vortex over us rather than Siberia.

"Oh no, you are hurting my head with science again."
 
printer said:
"And if it is global warming why is it so cold?"

Because the warm air from the Pacific Ocean went up to the Arctic Circile and pushed the Polar Vortex over us rather than Siberia.

"Oh no, you are hurting my head with science again."
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Well if anything land in Canada will get really expensive. Russia too I am guessing will make out like bandits when the shit hits the fan and they turn into a nice temperate climate.

Idk, with glaciers happening every x thousand years what will happen, but we will figure it out as a species once again.

We just really need to stop polluting and learn to live with the planet's other life.
 
hanimmal said:
Well if anything land in Canada will get really expensive. Russia too I am guessing will make out like bandits when the shit hits the fan and they turn into a nice temperate climate.

Idk, with glaciers happening every x thousand years what will happen, but we will figure it out as a species once again.

We just really need to stop polluting and learn to live with the planet's other life.
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yah and live in a gas station? no thanks.
 
hanimmal said:
Well if anything land in Canada will get really expensive. Russia too I am guessing will make out like bandits when the shit hits the fan and they turn into a nice temperate climate.

Idk, with glaciers happening every x thousand years what will happen, but we will figure it out as a species once again.

We just really need to stop polluting and learn to live with the planet's other life.
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There are thought of the Atlantic Conveyor Belt shutting down and causing a premature ice age but I don't want to talk about that.
 
printer said:
There are thought of the Atlantic Conveyor Belt shutting down and causing a premature ice age but I don't want to talk about that.
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Anything short of say Yosemite blowing or meteorite I think Humanity has whatever comes next.

It sucks we have to put each other through the pain of not just thinking ahead more before we do stupid shit as a species.

We are still just clinging to the icy shell of a molten ball of nickel hurdling through space in the wake of a far bigger ball of exploding metal.
 
hanimmal said:
Anything short of say Yosemite blowing or meteorite I think Humanity has whatever comes next.

It sucks we have to put each other through the pain of not just thinking ahead more before we do stupid shit as a species.

We are still just clinging to the icy shell of a molten ball of nickel hurdling through space in the wake of a far bigger ball of exploding metal.
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If you guys don't stop complaining, I'm gonna take my molten ball and go home! :bigjoint:


Also, Yosemite does not blow.


:mrgreen:
 
hanimmal said:
Anything short of say Yosemite blowing or meteorite I think Humanity has whatever comes next.
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This comes from a published worst-case scenario for a supereruption. The ash depths are bad in a circle containing Boise and Rapid City, but beyond that it is broom and rainstorm kind of stuff. I believe this wouldn't be a civilization ender. We might have two-plus years of cold and dark in the Northern hemisphere, but the Southern will be an effective reservoir of food and civilization. So long as the new world order doesn't speak Afrikaans.

A more credible global threat would be an asteroid in the Dinosaur Killer class, 10 km. 100 trillion tons TNT equivalnt. ( less than a million Mt from a Yosemite event, even a big one.) That would badly damage all of Earth's habitable surface and lead to decades of it being unlivable. Especially bad if it's a deep-ocean strike on the equator. Otherwise the unstruck hemisphere has a day or two to scramble for shelter.

Now (drains beer) let's imagine a Dinosaur Killer bullseyeing Yosemite. Even the big supereruptions only emit a fraction of the actual contained magma. A strike would vaporize the entire reservoir, turning the hot rock into a fineaerosol much more efficiently than an unassisted supereruption. Mother of nuclear winters and acid snow.

It sucks we have to put each other through the pain of not just thinking ahead more before we do stupid shit as a species.
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Sadly this sentiment lies atthe core of all utopian thought. "If only we would play team as a community" seems a universal condition. But we are not yet in an end game like Norse Greenland (bad luck with climate) or Easter Island) poor resource management).

We are still just clinging to the icy shell of a molten ball of nickel hurdling through space in the wake of a far bigger ball of exploding metal.
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Technically a bigger ball exploding into metal (type II supernova).

I think our future is off-planet. That's why idont like Tesla but am watching Spacex and cheering. Once we have a space presence, we are much more survivable as a technical civilization.
 
CatHedral said:
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This comes from a published worst-case scenario for a supereruption. The ash depths are bad in a circle containing Boise and Rapid City, but beyond that it is broom and rainstorm kind of stuff. I believe this wouldn't be a civilization ender. We might have two-plus years of cold and dark in the Northern hemisphere, but the Southern will be an effective reservoir of food and civilization. So long as the new world order doesn't speak Afrikaans.

A more credible global threat would be an asteroid in the Dinosaur Killer class, 10 km. 100 trillion tons TNT equivalnt. ( less than a million Mt from a Yosemite event, even a big one.) That would badly damage all of Earth's habitable surface and lead to decades of it being unlivable. Especially bad if it's a deep-ocean strike on the equator. Otherwise the unstruck hemisphere has a day or two to scramble for shelter.

Now (drains beer) let's imagine a Dinosaur Killer bullseyeing Yosemite. Even the big supereruptions only emit a fraction of the actual contained magma. A strike would vaporize the entire reservoir, turning the hot rock into a fineaerosol much more efficiently than an unassisted supereruption. Mother of nuclear winters and acid snow.
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Lol, yeah that kind of stuff.

CatHedral said:
Sadly this sentiment lies atthe core of all utopian thought. "If only we would play team as a community" seems a universal condition. But we are not yet in an end game like Norse Greenland (bad luck with climate) or Easter Island) poor resource management).
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I look at it more as 'if only we would let the people lead who are the best ones in those communities and not just the loudest/tallest/shittiest'.

CatHedral said:
Technically a bigger ball exploding into metal (type II supernova).

I think our future is off-planet. That's why idont like Tesla but am watching Spacex and cheering. Once we have a space presence, we are much more survivable as a technical civilization.
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Yeah I really do appreciate that Musk is using his money on scientists figuring out how to move us beyond the bottom of this ocean of nitrogen that we currently are held to.

rollitup said:
If you guys don't stop complaining, I'm gonna take my molten ball and go home! :bigjoint:


Also, Yosemite does not blow.


:mrgreen:
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Am I complaining? If so I apologize.
 
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