The forbidden TRUTH
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ghostdriver
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Recap of Events since thread started
Few weeks ago I was racking sawdust up from my yard from the chopping of wood, while I was pushing the wheelbarrow to the burn pit to empty the saw dust, I was looking at all the stars and the amazing and awesome creation that has been made. I then stated "Glory to GOD, and His Son Lord Jesus Christ forever and ever." Immediately after saying this I saw what I can only attempt to describe to you as a explosion in the sky. The explosion was not light like I have seen before, but absolute whiteness whiter then snow. While the explosion seemed to appear to start to the right of me within a fraction of a second it covered the whole sky.
Once the whole sky was covered, the sky returned to normal. I used the term explosion but I will attempt to describe in more detail. When one throws a rock into the water and observes the ripples like this picture here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_effect the ripples start at once concentrated spot and then reach out passing by. This is what I saw, a concentrated location distribute absolute whiteness. Not light so one can see, but non transparent whiteness whiter then snow, to the likes I have never seen. Glory to GOD, and Jesus Christ who GOD has made a GOD and has given him authority over us. I hope you all find safety in Jesus Christ before the power destroys evil forever.
demonic beings and experiences before making the thread
Well I hate talking about those fools but I will for the sake of those who read this, that they may possible learn something they may not of already known, to better their life and become closer to the ALMIGHTY POWER which is LORD. And closer to the salvation which is LORD JESUS CHRIST.
demonic beings are fallen angels or their offspring, which were living but now are dead. Now these beings can do numerous things to us. Typically these failed beings are limited to communication to you through spiritual means, evil thoughts, ideas, irrational reasoning, self pity. Make no mistake these things can prove fatal and literally cause harm or death, to you and others.
In certain cases these condemned to Hell beings, can have much more authority over you if you have been involved with satanism, murder, rape, blaspheme against the HOLY SPIRIT, Blaspheme in general. Basically anything that can defile yourself. Including sexual immorality.
Also these things which defile ourselves will have a lot of power to make us do it again, and not ever repent. Because GOD has left us and those demons now have MUCH stronger power to make us decide to do it again, and to justify our own actions. This is why people won't be saved. They will continue to strengthen their demon of sin, which will then continue to pervert their minds so they will not seek repentance by LORD JESUS CHRIST, and these demons will grow in strength and numbers and they will pervert the mind to irrational reasoning, false justification, and the idea of salvation of LORD JESUS CHRIST not applying to you, I really can't describe all the lies because satan is the father of lies. The lies of Human and animals transforming from parasites, This "Big Bang" not being the point in which GOD made creation. Or crazy other religions that a man has made, after reading some of THE HOLY BIBLE. So much lies. These other religions involve demonic worship of just the plain simple idea of not having you worship GOD in truth, and in spirit.
The world is virtually run by these demonic forces and I wouldn't be surprised if this thread gets taken down. If you go on youtube and research the Illuminati you will see that the World leaders,government, Politics, music industry, television is all run by demonic cult worshiping people.I know this may be a shock to some, and to others and reminder. These evil forces poison our food and soul in various ways.
My demonic experiences
Here are just some examples of some things I have witnessed. I have heard some really intense things from people, but I will be talking about things which I was a witness too.
Well where is begin.... One night before I was born again, I was at my house and after smoking a lot of herb in my pure ice bong I passed out and was woken up around 10:30 by someone yelling for me to come outside. I woke up and saw what appeared to be some sort of glowing red light. I cannot truly explain the magnitude and dimensions of these demons, there was three and they were more dimensions then we see in our lives. For lack of a better idea. Pretend all you have ever been able to see was a book. like it's in front of your face and you have never seen EVER is this, it was like all of a sudden three images was like one of those pop up books as a child. Everything else is normal, but these are in more dimensions then you have ever seen.
I have also seen shadow people, one was six feet away from me in a dimly lit hallway and looked at me ans open the door to my grow room. I though it was real person and yelled at it, and followed after it, thinking it was someone I lived with. Everyone I lived with was in the kitchen and replied back, no one was in the room.
One time I had something beat on the outside of my house three times, ( I live in the country, neighbors are really far away except the old crazy guy with the gun, but he is like +60 and lives like one hundred yards away. Went outside, nothing there.
Seen many white orbs move around in the sky and stop, then suddenly take off, or see one suddenly fall to the ground. I have seen things like this many times, but I am no where near as close as I was with the red glowing orbs. I was probably one hundred yards away from that if I had to guess.
I was smoking with my friend and saw a white for lack of a better word "light" but the light wasn't transparent it was like milk, as in you couldn't see through it, it was on traveling on the ground at about fifty miles a hour i'm guessing at seeing cars travel at similar speeds, my friend didn't see that, but he said he heard a loud swoosh.
I have seen shadow person in my yard, really slender and curved body shape and tall, then immediately my room was filled with little white lights all over the walls, all traveling in one direction it looked a lot like those disco balls in those old movies but the light was different.
Once one has asked for repentance, one should act as though one is forgiven, because one is, and believe the power that GOD has over sin, and celebrate their freedom and reward in Heaven, and in this Life. And Worship The GOD and His Son our LORD JESUS CHRIST who has saved us from our own immoral decisions. That bring forth pain, destruction, and damnation to ourselves and fellow mankind.
I also want to state that I have been born again, and I do not attend a church. And attending a church will not influence your judgement. Also beware what Church's teach, and hypocrite Church followers. I already mentioned the problems with "denominations" and "religions"
A few Sabbaths ago I was worshiping GOD and HIS SON, LORD JESUS CHRIST our LORD AND GOD. And when I was done with my prayer I started to walk towards the door to leave my room. Suddenly my vision just faded away and within seconds I was completely blind. I reached my hand to my wall so I wouldn't fall, I then said "I can't see" then something happened to me beyond words can explain but I will attempt. My cognitive thoughts reached a level of focus and peace that was baffling, I then said "Who am I?" Because suddenly I felt my soul without confusion, or interruption of any kind. Immediately after saying this....(still blind) I saw Giant buildings made of pearl that were all cut of one giant pearl, they were on both sides of me, leading down a long long path. They were so tall I couldn't see a end to them. And there was a path or road made of gold, not bricks of gold but one smooth casting. And the light was unlike any light I have seen, there was also no place where the light didn't shine as in, I saw no shadows anywhere. I saw this vision for literally like 1 to 2 seconds. Then I felt my soul like settle in my body and over the next ten to fifteen seconds I got my vision back again. I'm in a state of permanent awe.
Glory to THE LORD and HIS SON LORD JESUS CHRIST forever, I pray you all Love and Fear the LORD our GOD, and seek life and salvation through SON OF GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST the savior of the world.
THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD IS SOON
2 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
---Sky trumpets
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
---Solar tetrad and Blood moon tetrad
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
--- I am a young man, my vision
Hallelujah don't ignore the signs! Seek repentance now get saved!
-----Recap-------
Few weeks ago I was racking sawdust up from my yard from the chopping of wood, while I was pushing the wheelbarrow to the burn pit to empty the saw dust, I was looking at all the stars and the amazing and awesome creation that has been made. I then stated "Glory to GOD, and His Son Lord Jesus Christ forever and ever." Immediately after saying this I saw what I can only attempt to describe to you as a explosion in the sky. The explosion was not light like I have seen before, but absolute whiteness whiter then snow. While the explosion seemed to appear to start to the right of me within a fraction of a second it covered the whole sky.
Once the whole sky was covered, the sky returned to normal. I used the term explosion but I will attempt to describe in more detail. When one throws a rock into the water and observes the ripples like this picture here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_effect the ripples start at once concentrated spot and then reach out passing by. This is what I saw, a concentrated location distribute absolute whiteness. Not light so one can see, but non transparent whiteness whiter then snow, to the likes I have never seen. Glory to GOD, and Jesus Christ who GOD has made a GOD and has given him authority over us. I hope you all find safety in Jesus Christ before the power destroys evil forever.
demonic beings and experiences before making the thread
Well I hate talking about those fools but I will for the sake of those who read this, that they may possible learn something they may not of already known, to better their life and become closer to the ALMIGHTY POWER which is LORD. And closer to the salvation which is LORD JESUS CHRIST.
demonic beings are fallen angels or their offspring, which were living but now are dead. Now these beings can do numerous things to us. Typically these failed beings are limited to communication to you through spiritual means, evil thoughts, ideas, irrational reasoning, self pity. Make no mistake these things can prove fatal and literally cause harm or death, to you and others.
In certain cases these condemned to Hell beings, can have much more authority over you if you have been involved with satanism, murder, rape, blaspheme against the HOLY SPIRIT, Blaspheme in general. Basically anything that can defile yourself. Including sexual immorality.
Also these things which defile ourselves will have a lot of power to make us do it again, and not ever repent. Because GOD has left us and those demons now have MUCH stronger power to make us decide to do it again, and to justify our own actions. This is why people won't be saved. They will continue to strengthen their demon of sin, which will then continue to pervert their minds so they will not seek repentance by LORD JESUS CHRIST, and these demons will grow in strength and numbers and they will pervert the mind to irrational reasoning, false justification, and the idea of salvation of LORD JESUS CHRIST not applying to you, I really can't describe all the lies because satan is the father of lies. The lies of Human and animals transforming from parasites, This "Big Bang" not being the point in which GOD made creation. Or crazy other religions that a man has made, after reading some of THE HOLY BIBLE. So much lies. These other religions involve demonic worship of just the plain simple idea of not having you worship GOD in truth, and in spirit.
The world is virtually run by these demonic forces and I wouldn't be surprised if this thread gets taken down. If you go on youtube and research the Illuminati you will see that the World leaders,government, Politics, music industry, television is all run by demonic cult worshiping people.I know this may be a shock to some, and to others and reminder. These evil forces poison our food and soul in various ways.
My demonic experiences
Here are just some examples of some things I have witnessed. I have heard some really intense things from people, but I will be talking about things which I was a witness too.
Well where is begin.... One night before I was born again, I was at my house and after smoking a lot of herb in my pure ice bong I passed out and was woken up around 10:30 by someone yelling for me to come outside. I woke up and saw what appeared to be some sort of glowing red light. I cannot truly explain the magnitude and dimensions of these demons, there was three and they were more dimensions then we see in our lives. For lack of a better idea. Pretend all you have ever been able to see was a book. like it's in front of your face and you have never seen EVER is this, it was like all of a sudden three images was like one of those pop up books as a child. Everything else is normal, but these are in more dimensions then you have ever seen.
I have also seen shadow people, one was six feet away from me in a dimly lit hallway and looked at me ans open the door to my grow room. I though it was real person and yelled at it, and followed after it, thinking it was someone I lived with. Everyone I lived with was in the kitchen and replied back, no one was in the room.
One time I had something beat on the outside of my house three times, ( I live in the country, neighbors are really far away except the old crazy guy with the gun, but he is like +60 and lives like one hundred yards away. Went outside, nothing there.
Seen many white orbs move around in the sky and stop, then suddenly take off, or see one suddenly fall to the ground. I have seen things like this many times, but I am no where near as close as I was with the red glowing orbs. I was probably one hundred yards away from that if I had to guess.
I was smoking with my friend and saw a white for lack of a better word "light" but the light wasn't transparent it was like milk, as in you couldn't see through it, it was on traveling on the ground at about fifty miles a hour i'm guessing at seeing cars travel at similar speeds, my friend didn't see that, but he said he heard a loud swoosh.
I have seen shadow person in my yard, really slender and curved body shape and tall, then immediately my room was filled with little white lights all over the walls, all traveling in one direction it looked a lot like those disco balls in those old movies but the light was different.
Once one has asked for repentance, one should act as though one is forgiven, because one is, and believe the power that GOD has over sin, and celebrate their freedom and reward in Heaven, and in this Life. And Worship The GOD and His Son our LORD JESUS CHRIST who has saved us from our own immoral decisions. That bring forth pain, destruction, and damnation to ourselves and fellow mankind.
I also want to state that I have been born again, and I do not attend a church. And attending a church will not influence your judgement. Also beware what Church's teach, and hypocrite Church followers. I already mentioned the problems with "denominations" and "religions"
A few Sabbaths ago I was worshiping GOD and HIS SON, LORD JESUS CHRIST our LORD AND GOD. And when I was done with my prayer I started to walk towards the door to leave my room. Suddenly my vision just faded away and within seconds I was completely blind. I reached my hand to my wall so I wouldn't fall, I then said "I can't see" then something happened to me beyond words can explain but I will attempt. My cognitive thoughts reached a level of focus and peace that was baffling, I then said "Who am I?" Because suddenly I felt my soul without confusion, or interruption of any kind. Immediately after saying this....(still blind) I saw Giant buildings made of pearl that were all cut of one giant pearl, they were on both sides of me, leading down a long long path. They were so tall I couldn't see a end to them. And there was a path or road made of gold, not bricks of gold but one smooth casting. And the light was unlike any light I have seen, there was also no place where the light didn't shine as in, I saw no shadows anywhere. I saw this vision for literally like 1 to 2 seconds. Then I felt my soul like settle in my body and over the next ten to fifteen seconds I got my vision back again. I'm in a state of permanent awe.
Glory to THE LORD and HIS SON LORD JESUS CHRIST forever, I pray you all Love and Fear the LORD our GOD, and seek life and salvation through SON OF GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST the savior of the world.
THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD IS SOON
2 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
---Sky trumpets
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
---Solar tetrad and Blood moon tetrad
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
--- I am a young man, my vision
Hallelujah don't ignore the signs! Seek repentance now get saved!
-----Recap-------
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ghostdriver
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What happened to me last Wednesday
So I was with my friend in a car, we each have our own pipes talking to each other about GOD and HIS SON, LORD JESUS CHRIST our GOD, suddenly we saw strange blue colored pulsating light coming from behind this large above ground pool with a deck and a slight hill, it was sometimes blinking on and off too. The shape of the light was like a round area that would be lit if something bright was in the middle, so when I say that I also mean that no light is being shined on the ground from above or the side. So it lasted around 11 seconds, and there isn't anything behind the pool that would make that happen. I know because it's my back yard, in the country with no traffic at night, and the road is in the opposite direction far away.
Around 4 minutes after that I had pain on my face, and I said to my friend "I fee like someone suddenly punched me in my face" and he stopped talking for a moment and asked me if I was serious? I was confused because i'm in pain and asked him why what's up? He told me moments before I told him I felt like something hit me, he had like a day dream of me getting hit in the face by something and he was just smoking and didn't even mention it to me until I told him something hit me. I turned on the light and I had a huge fat lip, little tears ran down his eyes. I asked him if he wanted me to drive him back home he said "We are braking barriers" so we kept smoking finished our bowls without anymore demonic events.
When watching the Blood moons video when they talk about the Jewish people
the "Jewish People" is referring to the country,(not the group that believes half THE HOLY BIBLE) the Hebrew people of Jerusalem. Which has the capital of Israel which Abraham's descendants were called ( millions and millions of years after the flood) GOD chose to dwell with and continue to make THE HOLY BIBLE and the lineage that LORD JESUS CHRIST would be born into. Marry being the virgin who gives birth, and Joseph who was around watching SON of GOD body age. LORD JESUS CHRIST was with GOD before GOD created, because LORD JESUS CHRIST was willing to sacrifice himself so mankind could have free will and forgiveness of sin GOD made creation.- Read Hebrews the first few chapters it will explain better then I can obviously. (Also I know someone asked me to go into detail about the illuminati, I would prefer to keep it short as to not disregard the warnings about the great and terrible day of THE LORD but basically they are the ones in charge of the media,food,war the global economic structure ect In Ezekiel GOD warns of the famine coming, not of food but of GOD's WORDS which is why his SON LORD JESUS CHRIST left Heaven and came to Earth when he did at the end. I know it was 2014 years ago, but it's the end if we looked at the timeline of earth's million years history. So because mankind has become evil and has set forth a war of agenda against GOD's Laws and make a famine of GOD's words people are born into sin not knowing the way of righteousness and GOD's words. So they commit a lifetime of sin until discovering GOD and then GOD's Son LORD JESUS CHRIST has made it possible for that lifetime of sin to be forgotten. Also the reason why peoples sin offering of innocent blood through animals was even accepted and they were not destroyed immediately is because before GOD made creation, heavens, Angels, Mankind, LORD JESUS CHRIST THE SON was with GOD THE ALMIGHTY and through LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST creation and freewill was made, because LORD CHRIST was willing to die for the sin of Mankind making any repentance possible. Which is why GOD deemed it good to make mankind with free will and to have mercy on us and to forgive mankind when he does evil.
This has been a recap as to what has happened to me before and since I started this thread,
So I really want everyone to recognize the "time the are in" We are millions and millions if not billions of years after GOD has created Adam. GOD told us in THE HOLY BIBLE in the last chapter of the Old Testament A famine is coming not of food or drought but of THE WORD OF GOD, no one will be talking about GOD anymore in the WORLD just a lot of hypocrites and atheist. Which is why the SON of GOD left Heaven in the very end of this monumental timeline to save the last generations in the famine before the Great and Terrible day of The LORD which follows soon after.
I love you all and pray you know the decisions you make in your life.
So I was with my friend in a car, we each have our own pipes talking to each other about GOD and HIS SON, LORD JESUS CHRIST our GOD, suddenly we saw strange blue colored pulsating light coming from behind this large above ground pool with a deck and a slight hill, it was sometimes blinking on and off too. The shape of the light was like a round area that would be lit if something bright was in the middle, so when I say that I also mean that no light is being shined on the ground from above or the side. So it lasted around 11 seconds, and there isn't anything behind the pool that would make that happen. I know because it's my back yard, in the country with no traffic at night, and the road is in the opposite direction far away.
Around 4 minutes after that I had pain on my face, and I said to my friend "I fee like someone suddenly punched me in my face" and he stopped talking for a moment and asked me if I was serious? I was confused because i'm in pain and asked him why what's up? He told me moments before I told him I felt like something hit me, he had like a day dream of me getting hit in the face by something and he was just smoking and didn't even mention it to me until I told him something hit me. I turned on the light and I had a huge fat lip, little tears ran down his eyes. I asked him if he wanted me to drive him back home he said "We are braking barriers" so we kept smoking finished our bowls without anymore demonic events.
When watching the Blood moons video when they talk about the Jewish people
the "Jewish People" is referring to the country,(not the group that believes half THE HOLY BIBLE) the Hebrew people of Jerusalem. Which has the capital of Israel which Abraham's descendants were called ( millions and millions of years after the flood) GOD chose to dwell with and continue to make THE HOLY BIBLE and the lineage that LORD JESUS CHRIST would be born into. Marry being the virgin who gives birth, and Joseph who was around watching SON of GOD body age. LORD JESUS CHRIST was with GOD before GOD created, because LORD JESUS CHRIST was willing to sacrifice himself so mankind could have free will and forgiveness of sin GOD made creation.- Read Hebrews the first few chapters it will explain better then I can obviously. (Also I know someone asked me to go into detail about the illuminati, I would prefer to keep it short as to not disregard the warnings about the great and terrible day of THE LORD but basically they are the ones in charge of the media,food,war the global economic structure ect In Ezekiel GOD warns of the famine coming, not of food but of GOD's WORDS which is why his SON LORD JESUS CHRIST left Heaven and came to Earth when he did at the end. I know it was 2014 years ago, but it's the end if we looked at the timeline of earth's million years history. So because mankind has become evil and has set forth a war of agenda against GOD's Laws and make a famine of GOD's words people are born into sin not knowing the way of righteousness and GOD's words. So they commit a lifetime of sin until discovering GOD and then GOD's Son LORD JESUS CHRIST has made it possible for that lifetime of sin to be forgotten. Also the reason why peoples sin offering of innocent blood through animals was even accepted and they were not destroyed immediately is because before GOD made creation, heavens, Angels, Mankind, LORD JESUS CHRIST THE SON was with GOD THE ALMIGHTY and through LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST creation and freewill was made, because LORD CHRIST was willing to die for the sin of Mankind making any repentance possible. Which is why GOD deemed it good to make mankind with free will and to have mercy on us and to forgive mankind when he does evil.
This has been a recap as to what has happened to me before and since I started this thread,
So I really want everyone to recognize the "time the are in" We are millions and millions if not billions of years after GOD has created Adam. GOD told us in THE HOLY BIBLE in the last chapter of the Old Testament A famine is coming not of food or drought but of THE WORD OF GOD, no one will be talking about GOD anymore in the WORLD just a lot of hypocrites and atheist. Which is why the SON of GOD left Heaven in the very end of this monumental timeline to save the last generations in the famine before the Great and Terrible day of The LORD which follows soon after.
I love you all and pray you know the decisions you make in your life.
thepenofareadywriter
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been there done that,had the visions,dreamed the dreams,walked the walk,ate the book…all without the smoke…then came the cannabis (smoke) open my mind to understand life clearly…here is a ? for you have you ever wondered why a hebrew man would have a spanish name.
ghostdriver
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I go to a medical dispensary, I smoke a lot of GOD's green herb.
You are lying for a fact, because there is 40 pages of pre text in this thread, showing you know absolutely nothing about THE HOLY BIBLE.GOD The SON of THE ALMIGHTY has a Different pronunciation then the Spanish name. No clue to why you think what someone names their child now a days in a Spanish Country with different pronunciation of the name has to do with this thread.
thepenofareadywriter
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do you always accuse people of being liars...your book says you will be judge the same way you judge others,
Mat 7:1Judge not, that you be not judged.
Mat 7:2For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged; so I guess that would mean your god will judge you as a liar!...I would suggest that before you make judgements on people that you remove the log in your eye before you open your mouth or type out words...I would also request you to read my post TRUTH about GOD and ME...MY STORY...MY TESTIMONY...MY FINDINGS
Ceepea
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Real Christians don't judge others. That means Ghost isn't a real Christian.
thepenofareadywriter
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and by the way ghost if there is any thing that I have learned on this earth it is to love people for what they are, and not trying to change them to what I think is right or some book or books say is right !
ghostdriver
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There are forty pages of questions asking me about THE HOLY BIBLE on this thread, unless you have extreme short term memory loss like Dory from Finding Nemo and forgot it all. Then is obvious you're lying, there isn't any judgment, did I say "You are going to Hell?" That's what Judging is, telling a person what their destiny is.
What I said is a fact, from facts in this thread you do not know what is in THE HOLY BIBLE and have not read it.
A book isn't telling you whats Good and Evil THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR is
What I said is a fact, from facts in this thread you do not know what is in THE HOLY BIBLE and have not read it.
A book isn't telling you whats Good and Evil THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR is
tyler.durden
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TLDR...
Ceepea
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40 pages of people asking for proof, and 40 pages of you failing to provide anything but scripture (which is most definitely NOT proof) and childish stories about lights.
Judging someone isn't limited to telling someone their future. Have you ever heard of the word.... prejudice? You can judge people on behavior, looks, abilities, ideologies, etc. That's what you're doing. Judging someone as in, handing down punishment or reward is but a tiny fraction of what the term 'judge' means.
The bible isn't a factual book. You might as well read the story of "Santa and the Reindeer" and call it fact. Both books offer the same amount of proof in the supernatural. That's to say, ZERO proof.
People who aren't indoctrinated in faith require ACTUAL evidence BEFORE believing, not the other way around. That's how a rational mind works.
If I told you I was superman, you'd want to see proof before believing me. Wouldn't you? Or are you that naive?
And if a book says god exists, performed (performs) a plethora of miracles, broke (breaks) the laws of the natrual world, etc., any sane and rational person would say 'prove it', BEFORE drinking the Kool-aid.
How you can expect people to be as delusional as you, is beyond me. Most people aren't that naive or just plain stupid.
You'll find the crowd in the SS&P section is, for the most part, too advanced to fall for the same brain farts and gaps in logic as you.
"We" (the detractors), don't believe god exists. So, any point you make past proving god exists, is just an assumption based on that unproven premise.
I don't even know why I bother making a logical argument to an illogical person. I don't know what you could possibly hope to learn with a mindset as deluded as yours.
Guess I'm a sucker for punishment.
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ghostdriver
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Well THE HOLY BIBLE is true there is 40 pages trying to convince you to try repentance and prayer for yourself so you can witness things like I have, we have forty pages of clear evidence with no contradictions. You have no evidence and beyond countable contradictions of your theory of darwinism which states human beings are just germs that grew up into humans. Ignores all reasoning. And your'e really telling me your logical?
If I told you "I know you are going to Hell" I am judging you, not telling people about GOD and HIS Laws and HIS salvation.
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Ceepea
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No rational person believes before they have evidence. You are delusional.
The theory of evolution has literally hundreds of thousands of pieces of evidence. We have watched evolution take place, in bacteria and other organisms. We have fossils that show transitional forms, vestigial bones and organs, and much much more. The theory of evolution doesn't require any faith, it is exceptionally well documented.
The bible is unverifiable. It could be true, but it probably isn't. The world doesn't behave in the way described in the bible, so it's most likely not true.... just like every other religion on the planet.
That's how rational people look at things. The bible has talking snakes, demons, angels and a plethora of events that break the laws of physics, or other natural laws. Is it more likely that someone made up a story, or everything we know about science is wrong?
That's what I mean by being a rational person.
ghostdriver
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You think decomposition of dead things proves that bacteria are becoming humans? You think there isn't any holes in your theory?
No contradictions? You really think maggots eating a substance is proof that microscopic bacteria are transforming into humans before our eyes? You are the one in a brain washed cult. Here is a link about maggots and how they form .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition Do I really need to begin to explain that the only evidence you have of evolution is your disbelief in GOD? That's it. That's your whole theory, your right because you think GOD doesn't exist. Not that you have any evidence to think contrary, but because you think GOD doesn't exist.
Ceepea
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No. I don't think that, and I didn't say that. Stay on topic, stop using strawmen arguments to poorly attempt to make a point.
We can watch evolution happen, and we have fossils that prove it has happened. Vestigial organs and limbs are exceptionally strong evidence that support evolution.
The 'holes' in a theory don't mean the theory is invalid. The theory of evolution is completely accepted in virtually every scientific circle (except for crackpot Christian 'scientists'). It's the entire basis for modern biology.
No. Why would you think that what I believe? Is that seriously the level of understand your have of evolution? Are you kidding me? No wonder it's futile debating you, you don't even know what the other side is claiming. Who can you say evolution is false when you don't even know what it is? Nothing you've said is even close to resembling anything to do with evolution, or why evolution is a fact.
Science isn't a cult, dumb ass.Science uses actual instruments to make observations about things in reality. Religion uses faith to trick people into believing without any proof. It also uses circular arguments to rationalize itself. There is absolutely nothing rational about believing something BEFORE you have evidence to believe it.
If you disagree, then I have the powers of superman and I demand you give me all your money and worldly possessions or I will magically fly to where you live, and throw your house into the sun at the speed of light..... because those are things I can do.... because I have the powers of superman.....
There is zero evidence that god exists. There is a plethora of evidence to support the theory of evolution. It would take SO MUCH EVIDENCE to overturn the theory of evolution it's virtually impossible at this point. We have neanderthal DNA.... we have fossils of other homo species that pre-date humans, and we have 25% common DNA with most plants, 96% of our DNA with chimps.... we share 88% of our DNA with mice for fuck sakes. That tells you how 'young' mammals are in the evolutionary time scale... All of these %'s are indications of how long ago we shared ancestors with these organisms. We have human remains for tens of thousands of years ago, long before any language or religion ever existed.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/125-explore/shared-genes
ghostdriver
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Okay lol I'm waiting to see this evidence LOL! I watched your video, and because creatures are made of some of the same material (flesh) (and protein matter LOL) proves nothing of your theory that bacteria are literally growing into humans. There is absolutely no proof or anything that suggest this. You have looked for forty pages to try to disprove things I have said but have failed. You offer no Evidence, just a video of a old man talking about plants. You base your proof off from you think GOD can't make creation. That's all you think despite 40 pages over evidence pleading with you to turn to prayer so you can have personal experiences. You claim you are a logical thinker but provide no answers to anything. With no evidence of your theory then when someone comes along telling you something you cannot prove wrong, and explains everything with pages of evidence with no contradictions and a eye witness testimony you choose to follow something with no explanation of anything or any evidence. The only thing that you keep saying is that GOD can't make things and be Omnipotent because no one else can.
Well behold GOD can make and destroy, was and always will be. The beginning and the End Alpha and Omega. Fear GOD
Considering you believe this bacteria becoming people theory which claims science but has no scientific proof or any evidence or even suggestions yet you chose to believe this cult trend from what sounds like a bad sci fi movie, with more holes then describable, have you stopped to think you only believe something that makes zero sense and explains nothing, and don't do your research on the topic because you are running away from acknowledge GOD?
So you picked a group that just tries to ignore GOD and GOD's Laws, no matter how long you choose to live without acknowledgment of GOD, I assure you the topic will not disappear.
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thepenofareadywriter
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first off you have called me a liar twice,,, which proves to me that you couldn't recognize truth if it was starring you in the eye which it was; now if you would kindly click on the link you will see my story...say what you will, but as you will see you can not honestly call me a liar...since those days my mind has been opened wide... https://www.rollitup.org/t/truth-about-god-and-me-my-story-my-testimony-my-findings.675556/
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ghostdriver
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Do I need to start asking you questions knowing the answer is " Because your theory of mutant people bacteria is wrong, GOD is right, and I am a witness" just to show you the problems with what you're saying? Like you sadly and pitifully tried to do with me, and failed. I know you weren't asking because you want to learn, you were just hoping I haven't ever read THE HOLY BIBLE, or more ignorantly hoping that THE HOLY BIBLE would be wrong.
I love you and I am not calling you a "fool" or "ignorant" I'm just saying the things your saying make zero sense with zero evidence yet you believe and ask me for more evidence I supply 40 pages and tell you how to experience GOD for yourself, but you refuse for lack of evidence? That's ignorant. I won't call you ignorant, but I will warn you of the act your'e doing as so it wont at all be on my head, and I will by no means be responsible. So your decision is ignorant.
I love you and I am not calling you a "fool" or "ignorant" I'm just saying the things your saying make zero sense with zero evidence yet you believe and ask me for more evidence I supply 40 pages and tell you how to experience GOD for yourself, but you refuse for lack of evidence? That's ignorant. I won't call you ignorant, but I will warn you of the act your'e doing as so it wont at all be on my head, and I will by no means be responsible. So your decision is ignorant.
ghostdriver
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I know your demons want you to hate me, and not listen to anything I say, and to choose your side and attempt to defend it wrong or right because your offended that GOD destroys evil. But it is good that GOD destroys evil, to end pain, disease, death ect.
If you would just put your feelings aside and look at your "religion" and see the problems with what your'e saying there is no difference between your religion and Islam, witnesses that knock on your door, or any other fake religion it's all just a form of revolt to not follow GOD's laws. Filled with contradictions, obscure, obscene, irrational, illogical evil ideas that prey upon your own iniquity and vanity.
I said you are lying because we have 40 pages of you asking me biblical text from THE HOLY BIBLE, and you just said you have already read it all...That's not insulting you it's being
I love you, and I don't have any negative feelings about you. Enjoy your day think about what i'm saying try not to just get offended and start insulting and cursing. Listen without your'e hate interfering. I don't want your anger to build up and you hurt someone or yourself.
Or anyone else too. I'm being serious I know sometimes the road looks dark, but that's just a web of lies by demons tormenting you. Mankind is a immortal spirit and GOD loves those who love HIM. HIS mercy is un-measurable. If your'e hating life because of physical problems, relationship problems, abusive childhood, abuse at school ect. GOD ALMIGHTY and HIS SON LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST can do anything. All things are possible.
-Pen
I said you are lying because we have 40 pages of you asking me biblical text from THE HOLY BIBLE, and you just said you have already read it all...That's not insulting you it's being perceptive.
If you would just put your feelings aside and look at your "religion" and see the problems with what your'e saying there is no difference between your religion and Islam, witnesses that knock on your door, or any other fake religion it's all just a form of revolt to not follow GOD's laws. Filled with contradictions, obscure, obscene, irrational, illogical evil ideas that prey upon your own iniquity and vanity.
I said you are lying because we have 40 pages of you asking me biblical text from THE HOLY BIBLE, and you just said you have already read it all...That's not insulting you it's being
I love you, and I don't have any negative feelings about you. Enjoy your day think about what i'm saying try not to just get offended and start insulting and cursing. Listen without your'e hate interfering. I don't want your anger to build up and you hurt someone or yourself.
Or anyone else too. I'm being serious I know sometimes the road looks dark, but that's just a web of lies by demons tormenting you. Mankind is a immortal spirit and GOD loves those who love HIM. HIS mercy is un-measurable. If your'e hating life because of physical problems, relationship problems, abusive childhood, abuse at school ect. GOD ALMIGHTY and HIS SON LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST can do anything. All things are possible.
-Pen
I said you are lying because we have 40 pages of you asking me biblical text from THE HOLY BIBLE, and you just said you have already read it all...That's not insulting you it's being perceptive.
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