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The Flying Circus

Thundercat

Thundercat

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I just found what Im hoping are 2 great males...... Of my 3 powernaps 2 ended up boys but one of those was the strongest grower of the 3 right from the beggining. As the 2 showed their balls the one I'm keeping also produced 2-3 times more balls at tighter nodes then the other. I tossed the larger one I actually had flower ing since I had a nice clone off it already but I think I should be able to get some quality pollen here soon. I'm gonna try crossing it with my Cindy :). I also had one of my extremes turn out as a boy and it has seemed like a really strong grower from the beginning to.

Im gonna have to try paying attention to the whole moon cycle thing. I've never looked into that, but ill take any advantage I can get especially with the new beans I'm about pop!
 
Smoothkicksandsmoke

Smoothkicksandsmoke

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whodatnation said:
Im not the one to back down from a challenge... I battle myself everyday.

Tryna battle?


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I wouldn't ever expect that you would be the type to back down. But I find that I at my best if I challenge someone better than me. You know what I mean? I'm game but it won't be for a couple months before I'm ready for all that.

On the sb though. I'm just walking through this in my mind. If you're trying to see what pheno variation in the s33ds produced from the sb then I would agree with G. But to add as another possible thought, idk if it has any merit, but my stressing the parent sb I wonder if the pheno variation will be more pronounced in the s33ds created as a result from it. Like i said I have no idea just wondering if that could be so.
 
whodatnation

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I would not make s33ds with a stressed father or mother.


Hey challenge away my friend, but their isn't really comparing our systems anymore... Not trying to sound like a dick... With that said, my current system wont be able to compare to my next system.... Im excited. If all goes well next round I should be getting 2 lbs per 600 and that will be with the lower yielding Nibirus... After that I kinda want to run all BnS x BnS just to see how high I can get the yeild lol That BnS can yield like a mofo!............ If I only had my old AK47 cut :shock: Id be getting 3+ lbs a 600.
 
Thundercat

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Even if it didn't effect the variation I bet I would effect the tolerances of the offspring. I bet using a stressed out mom to breed could result in offspring more likely to get mold or pests with less natural resistances. Just a guess/ thought. I wonder if it could also increase the odds the offspring could herm.
 
colocowboy

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I guess I wasn't very clear either, all that talk was to basically say YES. In fact it is my summation that your flip had a negative effect.

As far as your breeding question, it all comes down to your male selection. Particularly in the f2 selection as far as which traits you want to carry forward. Additionally you will want to test your male selection for it's heritable traits on a few known females. This is of course a goal driven process and you have to test for the traits your looking for as males don't necessarily "show" the characteristics your looking for visibly. That being said non-staminate resin on a male does exist and is a prized trait (just an example). Like TC says, the females in your environment are particularly suited to it. If you were to pollinate an individual that was experiencing an issue in your environment it could be surmised that this individual will pass on this weakness and vice versa. Selection by these type of criterion are acclimatization techniques.

**Sorry, I know I haven't really posted in your thread before. I don't mean to stomp toes around here..... Anywho, sorry if I am unwelcome to do so....
puff, puff, pass......bongsmilie
 
Smoothkicksandsmoke

Smoothkicksandsmoke

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whodatnation said:
I would not make s33ds with a stressed father or mother.


Hey challenge away my friend, but their isn't really comparing our systems anymore... Not trying to sound like a dick... With that said, my current system wont be able to compare to my next system.... Im excited. If all goes well next round I should be getting 2 lbs per 600 and that will be with the lower yielding Nibirus... After that I kinda want to run all BnS x BnS just to see how high I can get the yeild lol That BnS can yield like a mofo!............ If I only had my old AK47 cut :shock: Id be getting 3+ lbs a 600.
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I suppose you are correct on the stressed mother or father. I was just thinking that by stressing the plant you could also see its possible weaknesses as well. Then select which variations based upon the performance of the variations. I guess even if it were attempted it would be done so beforehand and then the selected plants clones taken prior to stressing would be utilized based on the results. Cray cray talk on my part. lol.

I'm not easily offended my friend. Yea I definitely noticed differences in our grows this time around. You're making improvements while I'm still trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing. In time ill have a nice setup that makes my life easier and produces great results. Anxious to see the improvements you make for next round. 2 P's is some weight for a single 600. I gotta see this, not doubting, truly wanna watch. I'm really curious on how you're gonna get it there. Anything to do with vegging longer? Or is this base mostly off of system improvements?

Thundercat said:
Even if it didn't effect the variation I bet I would effect the tolerances of the offspring. I bet using a stressed out mom to breed could result in offspring more likely to get mold or pests with less natural resistances. Just a guess/ thought. I wonder if it could also increase the odds the offspring could herm.
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yea you're right TC. See my reframing of my idea above. Like I said my ROOKIE STATUS has me talking cray. lol. My thought is by pushing limits of the plant it may exhibit certain strengths and weaknesses of the possible future variations. I need to smoke. All of this talk sober is incoherent. lol.
 
DoobieBrother

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whodatnation said:
Yeah I think so too. Which makes me think that the next set of beans will have more pheno variation... Is that the case? Anyone? I should ask in the 600 breeding showcase thread... Im far from knowledgable about breeding but for some reason I think my previous statement is correct... Not sure though.


Iv given out hundreds of beans, you and bobo are the only ones to grow them out and report back... Would like to see what others are experiencing, if anything at all.
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I'm hanging on to the ones the faerie sent me long enough to get into a house.
I can't offer them a stable environment until then, since we just don't know when it will happen.
It will be this year, one way or the other: we will buy a pre-built house, or we'll have one built for us.
Either way it will be this year.
If I'd known it would take this long to find a house, I'd have popped those beans as soon as I got them, and would be able to share the data with you, as I've wanted to try them for a long time after watching you grow them out.
:-)
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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Yesh yesh yesh on all fronts. Colo you are good peeps as far as I know and more than welcome here. Post on my friend, and thanks for the info!!!

Twin, breeders do what your talking about all the time, stress testing and what not but thats for people who have a bit more space testing stress on clones ect. You are correct. Im just not willing to do that much. Honestly I just wanna have fun and make quality crosses and beans,,, and share :-) and ultimately shmoke it! I wont be getting too serious with this, for a while at least.


I completely understand doobsters. I hope you find/get the place you are dreaming of,,, def not something to RUSH


[video=youtube;ksKjR9uPc6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksKjR9uPc6E[/video]




Im busy busy today, my ankle is feeling better,,, oh yeah I twisted my ankle a few days ago but Im ready to rock and roll today. Out for a bifter and back to it.


:peace:
 
Smoothkicksandsmoke

Smoothkicksandsmoke

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whodatnation said:
Twin, breeders do what your talking about all the time, stress testing and what not but thats for people who have a bit more space testing stress on clones ect. You are correct. Im just not willing to do that much. Honestly I just wanna have fun and make quality crosses and beans,,, and share :-) and ultimately shmoke it! I wont be getting too serious with this, for a while at least.
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Feel free to share Twin. Ill grow those suckers out soon as I get my new spot. I gotta get back to my basics too on germing. Been dumb about shit. I feel like I let the fairy down (they'll know who I'm talking bout). Dropped me those nice banana puff seeds and I'm blowing it. I really do like the look of crosses you got going though man. Smoke reports on them? Keep up the great look buddy.
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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will see how this suits you[video=youtube;f4K6ZxDwi34]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34[/video]
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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Oh yeah Im feeling this for sure! :bigjoint: Not sure I hear much nowadays, or ever, on this level imo,, and I just smoked a giant joint lol

[video=youtube;EbZC_WvQ4ck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbZC_WvQ4ck[/video]





Mega veg update! Vaggies everywhere too :-) These are outside right now and will take them to the spot just before the sun comes up. I'll se them in some spots that are shaded and try to harden them off for a week before putting in the ground and full sun. They should start flowering right away, my other outdoor plants have juuuuuuust started I believe < they are another story lol all good though :-) and they are both space bubbles.


These are in half compost and half clayish ditch dirt. I think they complement each other perfectly, very happy.. The plants look fine besides some wind burn on a few.


?p x BnS- 3f of 3




BnS x sb2- 2f of 2




GG x WF- 1f of 3




BD- 4f- 5?




PB x GS- 4f- 9?




htrade- 6f- 6?


OTM yo momma-



JH x BD- 3f- 1?





23 fems so far by my crackalations. There were some (not many, maybe 8) males counted as ? bc for some reason I didnt bother to write them down,,, I was chasing pistils.






And whats an updat without some buuuuuuuds?








My precious.... This is the heady stash hehe







So a quick question for you all out there. Which picture do you like more, 1 or 2?











:peace:






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whodatnation

whodatnation

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DoobieBrother said:
You're a real "Working Man", and livin' The Dream, whodat!

Mad props all around!
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Thanks allot doobie, I really appreciate it. Im building it bigger everyday, what an opportunity.

Smoothkicksandsmoke said:
Feel free to share Twin. Ill grow those suckers out soon as I get my new spot. I gotta get back to my basics too on germing. Been dumb about shit. I feel like I let the fairy down (they'll know who I'm talking bout). Dropped me those nice banana puff seeds and I'm blowing it. I really do like the look of crosses you got going though man. Smoke reports on them? Keep up the great look buddy.
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Your on a long list iv yet to even scratch the surface of. I have allot on my plate.

Dr.D81 said:
this is probably my favorite picture it won a national contest View attachment 2743041 and some old bud pornView attachment 2743042
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QUALITY.

Thundercat said:
Glad your ankle is feeling better bud.... Sorry to hear you hurt it :)
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haha hippies are so nice :-) thanks bro!
 
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