The economy is booming!

Fogdog

Fogdog

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The story of he construction worker during Great Depression.

"Once I built a tower up to the sun
Brick and rivet and lime
Once I built a tower, now it's done
Brother, can you spare a dime?"
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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NaturalFarmer said:
Great recovery. In other news...aren't we all just temporary positions? Show me where you learned that Bobo? You learn that at brick layer school?

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Actually, a well educated hard working person is pretty secure. I've always been considered essential. My bosses have been riffed but I've never been. When a company that I worked for started going down the tubes, I fired THEM and moved to a better company for better pay and prospects.

You should reconsider how cutting spending on education is such a good thing.

This is not to say that working in construction is a bad thing but you are mistaken if you think it's not a temporary job. A good worker with experience and a good reputation will do fine through all but the worst downturn. But most construction workers feel the pain first because housing starts are the first to slow when the recession begins. They then feel the pain longest because housing starts are slow to rebuild once the recovery begins. Maybe this kind of corporate behavior should be discouraged. Maybe this kind of corporate behavior is counter productive because it discourages kids from going into careers in construction. Maybe we could get smarter as a society about how to smooth out the unemployment gaps so that during good times there are plenty of experienced workers ready to help do the building. But the way companies and US society treats workers as if they are disposable makes the good times less good and the bad times really bad for the construction industry's workers.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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TacoMac said:
Most people are clueless on what it is and what it takes to do business in China.

First off, China isn't looking after fair play from anybody for anybody. China simply wants its cut.
  • You are GOING to pay them to do business there.
  • After you pay them, their people are going to run your business FOR you.
  • After they are running your business for you, they are going to hire their workers that you have to pay.
After you do all of that shit, you get to split any profits you make 50/50 with China.

That is what it is and what it takes to do business in China.

Now, the question everybody should be asking themselves is this: why would ANYBODY want to do business with China when those are the terms?

Answer: Because they're STILL making a fucking killing. That should tell you exactly how badly the typical consumer of a developed nation is getting fucked over.
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No. The question is WHY DOESN'T AMERICA REQUIRE EXACTLY THE SAME FOR OUR WORKERS?!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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redivider said:
I hadn't posted in politics for a LONG time

But you need to stop the bullshit.

I live in Colombia, have for the past few years. Here is what EVERY venezuelan says:

IF YOU ARE NOT IN VENEZUELA, LIVE IN VENEZUELA OR HAVE FAMILY IN VENEZUELA - YOU SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I see them. I see them walking, I see the worn out shoes. The dirty clothes, the famished look on their faces, the loss of hope.

I see it every day, women with kids, walking for 25 days straight to reach Bogota, from the Border. It takes them 40 days to reach Cali. They've been walking from all over. I met a guy the other day that comes from the border with BRAZIL. IT took him 50 days to walk to the Colombian Border. It's 250 miles from the Colombia-Venezuela Border to Bogota. These people walk. No money, no food. No breakfast.

All they eat in a day is sometimes half a pound of bread and a liter of a soft drink- THAT IS IT.

60 days to reach the border with Ecuador. 100 days to get to Quito.

ON FOOT. Bogota is a 'cold city' - what I mean is that there's no 'heating' anywhere. Every night it drops into the 40s. These guys sleep outside. Under bridges, in parks, wherever they can fit.......When it is cloudy it doesn't leave the mid 50s all day. It rains every other day...... Now imagine coming from Caracas, a warm city, all you have is shorts, flipflops, t shirts, maybe a hoodie or two, but you can't take everything, because there is no cab. there is no UberX. You are walking. Everything you have is on your back and all the money you have left is in your pocket, and Bolivares are so devalued they'll give 100.000 bolivares for 200 pesos.

I've been given FREE bolivares by venezuelan dudes I've met because the currency ain't worth shit.

To reach Bucaramanga from Cucuta you cross one of the coldest tropical forests in the world, temperatures drop into the 30s EVERY NIGHT. these people don't 'camp out' make marshmellows and enjoy a hot cup of cocoa.... No motherfucker they sleep on the ground, thousands have to be treated for exposure upon reaching Bucaramanga....

I'm not kidding- just SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE....

Removing Maduro will only improve the situation in Venezuela. There is no other option - he has to go. Everybody with something at stake says it. He has to go.

So shut the fuck up. Do yourself a favor - you sound foolish.
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I'm sure America's economic warfare against Maduro's government has nothing to do with anything.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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NaturalFarmer said:
Worker pay and benefits rise at fastest pace in 10 years, ECI shows
//www.marketwatch.com/story/worker-pay-and-benefits-rise-at-fastest-pace-in-11-years-eci-finds-2019-01-31


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/31/worker-wage-gains-break-3percent-for-the-first-time-in-more-than-10-years.html
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/wage-growth-3-2-sign-163554651.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2019-02-01/jpm-s-kasman-sees-potential-for-4-nominal-u-s-wage-growth-video

The economy adds 304,000 jobs in January, smashing expectations as the unemployment rate rises
Average hourly earnings rose 3.2% from a year earlier
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-jobs-report-unemployment-rate-and-wage-growth-january-2019-2019-2-1027916437
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I'm sure it had nothing to do with the Fight For $15 movement.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
But the way companies and US society treats workers as if they are disposable makes the good times less good and the bad times really bad for the construction industry's workers.
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And this right here is exactly why I'm a Progressive.
 
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redivider

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ttystikk said:
I'm sure America's economic warfare against Maduro's government has nothing to do with anything.
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Let me tell you a story, since I've had the benefit of meeting a ton of Venezuelans since moving here.

Venezuela has price controls on everything, but mainly consumer goods, food, clothes, hygiene products, you cannot sell anything to the public above a certain price.

But that doesn't change the price of the raw materials. So I know a guy who has a small shoe factory, well it's a family thing, it's been since his family went to Venezuela from Germany at the start of WW2. Anyways his factory went from producing close to 2.000 pairs per month to producing 5 pairs per month. They cannot go idle because the government has threatened to expropriate any business that goes idle, as they see it as an attack on the regime, a protest.... So they are making still making and selling shoes, at a loss, oficially. The last time I spoke to him they sold 35 shoes that month in the legal market... What really happens is that they still make their 1200 or so shoes but have to sell them on a black market, zero papertrail, at real prices that give them some profit because that's the only way to survive. So under Maduro a family that has made shoes for 60 years have been turned into criminals. And make no mistake the Colectivos the regime pays to crush dissent they don't arrest, they don't ask questions, and they don't forgive.

You want to tell me the US, England, the EU and the OEA are responsible for this??? shut the fuck up.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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TacoMac said:
Because our government doesn't run all business to suit it's own goals while throwing the people under the bus.

Retard.
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You're quite right. Our government runs the country to suit the goals of big business- while throwing the people under the bus.
I'm sure you'll agree with them, you hack.
 
NaturalFarmer

NaturalFarmer

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ttystikk said:
No it isn't. They're inefficient fire traps that constantly need to be replaced.

If you had a clue about grow lighting you'd know that already.
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I do know that clueless one, I was referring to what a bigot told me. Thanks

BTW building a badass light right now. You would be impressed.
 
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