The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Many people in the construction business hire illegal immigrants, I figure ICE needs to focus on employers and leave poor folks alone. Are they paying fair wages? Paying tax and workers compensation? Where are the social security numbers and registration for employment, deductions for income tax? Mandatory minimums for employers would solve many problems and put the blame where it belongs.
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i'm not saying spandy is an undocumented worker, that would be no big deal. that's only a civil offense.

spandy is committing serious federal felonies with his tax fraud and evasion. that makes him an ILLEGAL
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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UncleBuck said:
i'm not saying spandy is an undocumented worker, that would be no big deal. that's only a civil offense.

spandy is committing serious federal felonies with his tax fraud and evasion. that makes him an ILLEGAL
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I find a lot of Trump supporters are a bit like him, self centered to the point of self destruction. They seem to be primarily driven by fear, hatred and greed, I don't see much compassion displayed among them. The ones who come here seem to have some stupid notion of, "gitting them thar liberals", "confounding "liberals", or other such nonsense, as if they were conservatives or something, and not merely the useful idiots of a treasonous moron like Trump. Hate and fear make ya stupid and that explains most trumpers, lack of oxygen at birth or dumb genes and incest explain the rest. I guess most know they should have been aborted, which is why they are against it!:lol:
 
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GOP Strategist: ‘Our President Is A Useful Idiot’ For Russia | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC
According to The Washington Post, Special Counsel Robert Mueller told President Trump's lawyers that while he is still under investigation, he is not currently a criminal target. Stephanie and her panel, including one of the co-authors of that report, discuss how this could play out for Mr. trump.
 
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Mueller's team questioning Russian oligarchs
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has taken the unusual step of questioning Russian oligarchs who traveled into the US, stopping at least two. One of them had his electronic devices searched when his private jet landed at a New York area airport, according to multiple sources familiar with the inquiry.
 
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Meet The Midterms: ‘Blue Wave’ Hits Wisconsin Supreme Court Race | MTP Daily | MSNBC
Meet the Midterms: ‘Blue wave’ hits Wisconsin Supreme Court race
Republicans are sounding the alarm after losing a state Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin, leading Republican Governor Scott Walker to tweet that the election results "show we are at risk of a Blue Wave in Wisconsin.

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Panic is starting to set in among the GOP, Mitch was bitch'n about it too and seems a might worried! If Mueller was to give his report in the next month or so, it might receive an interesting response from the republican leadership and present an opportunity to unload Trump and distance themselves, while minimising the damage with the base. They are in a hard place, cause it will be around primary season and if the loonies show up pissed about Donald, many won't get to run in November. They don't want to be going into the midterms carrying Donald and his ocean of water while scandals, bombshells and criminal trials are going off like fireworks during the election. They will also be carrying Mueller's impeachment report, if they don't act on it. It will be a slaughter of the elephants for sure, ole Dumbo would be killed and buried by a landslide.
 
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greg nr

greg nr

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Meet The Midterms: ‘Blue Wave’ Hits Wisconsin Supreme Court Race | MTP Daily | MSNBC
Meet the Midterms: ‘Blue wave’ hits Wisconsin Supreme Court race
Republicans are sounding the alarm after losing a state Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin, leading Republican Governor Scott Walker to tweet that the election results "show we are at risk of a Blue Wave in Wisconsin.

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Panic is starting to set in among the GOP, Mitch was bitch'n about it too and seems a might worried! If mueller was to give his report in the next month or so, it might receive an interesting response from the republican leadership and present an opportunity to unload Trump and distance themselves, while minimising the damage with the base. They are in a hard place, cause it will be around primary season and if the loonies show up pissed about Donald, many won't get to run in November. They don't want to be going into the midterms carrying Donald and his ocean of water while scandals, bombshells and criminal trials are going off like fireworks during the election. They will also be carrying Mueller's impeachment report, if they don't act on it. It will be a slaughter of the elephants for sure, ole Dumbo would be killed and buried by a landslide.
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I don't see them doing anything.

The report, apparently, will only cover obstruction. The gop will never convict him on that charge. It doesn't matter how badly they will get killed, they simply won't remove a republican president on obstruction charges. Not this congress.

They would rather take the lumps and function from the minority.

The calculus is obvious. The can lose x seats if they do nothing, but they will lose more than x seats if they vote to convict. The base is still behind trump. That hasn't changed.

The base doesn't care about obstruction, or corruption, or incompetance. They revel in it.
 
captainmorgan

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Bought and paid for politicians sold this country out on behalf of corporations outsourcing jobs for big bonuses. Now the king of the idiots starts a trade war with a country that holds our nuts in their hand because of it. All China has to do is not buy our bonds and put tariffs on our goods and we're screwed.
 
greg nr

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captainmorgan said:
Bought and paid for politicians sold this country out on behalf of corporations outsourcing jobs for big bonuses. Now the king of the idiots starts a trade war with a country that holds our nuts in their hand because of it. All China has to do is not buy our bonds and put tariffs on our goods and we're screwed.
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True that, but it won't change the equation unless the base blames trump for increased costs, lower profits, or lost jobs. And they won't because the wurlitzer will blame it all on the dems for not working with trump.

They are already blaming increased health care costs on the dems, and the base is eating it up. Trade casualties won't be any different.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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greg nr said:
I don't see them doing anything.

The report, apparently, will only cover obstruction. The gop will never convict him on that charge. It doesn't matter how badly they will get killed, they simply won't remove a republican president on obstruction charges. Not this congress.

They would rather take the lumps and function from the minority.

The calculus is obvious. The can lose x seats if they do nothing, but they will lose more than x seats if they vote to convict. The base is still behind trump. That hasn't changed.

The base doesn't care about obstruction, or corruption, or incompetance. They revel in it.
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If yer right it will be a slaughter of the elephants and rightly so. The GOP has enough retirees in the house to impeach and if they jigger it right, there wouldn't be too much damage in the senate either. Who would the base blame "I voted against impeachment", most could say come primary season.
 
greg nr

greg nr

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If yer right it will be a slaughter of the elephants and rightly so. The GOP has enough retirees in the house to impeach and if they jigger it right, there wouldn't be too much damage in the senate either. Who would the base blame "I voted against impeachment", most could say come primary season.
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Maybe, but the GOP needs to donate 24 votes in the house and 18 in the senate. I don't see that many retirees. And Ryan still hasn't announced if he will run for relection.

If Ryan runs, he won't allow a vote. He is expected to Run.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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captainmorgan said:
Bought and paid for politicians sold this country out on behalf of corporations outsourcing jobs for big bonuses. Now the king of the idiots starts a trade war with a country that holds our nuts in their hand because of it. All China has to do is not buy our bonds and put tariffs on our goods and we're screwed.
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It's gonna gut the rural heartland and fuck the markets and pension plans, Trump's base is gonna be cornholed by a trade war and they ain't happy! Most of his base doesn't give a shit about America, but when it comes to their own wallets, it's like someone sticks a live wire up their ass! They care about that!
 
greg nr

greg nr

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It's gonna gut the rural heartland and fuck the markets and pension plans, Trump's base is gonna be cornholed by a trade war and they ain't happy! Most of his base doesn't give a shit about America, but when it comes to their own wallets, it's like someone sticks a live wire up their ass! They care about that!
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His base is more concerned with the price of gold and bitcoin. They don't have 401k's because they don't work for companies that offer them.

His base is white males who never went to college, followed by white females who never went to college. This isn't a demographic that has a large portfolio or a 401k. The gop is more wealthy and has 401k's, but the base doesn't.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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greg nr said:
Maybe, but the GOP needs to donate 24 votes in the house and 18 in the senate. I don't see that many retirees. And Ryan still hasn't announced if he will run for relection.

If Ryan runs, he won't allow a vote. He is expected to Run.
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Whatever the fine details one way or the other, the GOP is fucked, they are in a perfect storm the kind of conflagration that destroys political parties.
 
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