DIY-HP-LED
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I agree with you, but these people are not in the majority, not even close. This election promises to be a barn burner and all kinds of folks who normally don't vote will and some who do all the time won't.
The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out
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captainmorgan
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tRUmp has put like minded people in key positions through out the government and left other positions unfilled on purpose. He is also trying to fill the courts with judges that think the same way. Cheeto jesus is not smart enough to mastermind this and there is a puppeteer behind the scenes. The leadership of the GOP are as corrupt as you can get and will do what tRUmp wants as long as they get what they want. None of them give a shit about this country or the constitution if it gets in the way of their plans.
DIY-HP-LED
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Do you think there are any republicans left in the FBI? I wonder if more than a few retired agents will be doing free opposition research for the dems this summer? All the stops are coming out this summer and fall, the november election will have a historic turnout. Yer gonna see democracy in action, and after that justice. Until Trump is gone, it's smash and grab, cause there's no tomorrow for them.
DIY-HP-LED
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There are not many judges who are like minded with Donald, ya would fuk'n near have to but yer brain in a blender to get like that, the GOP provided a list to pick from. Nobody, even the loonies he has appointed to cabinet is gonna go to jail for Trump (themselves yes) or take a chance for him. The GOP leadership hasn't been acting like masterminds here either, but are just reacting to events and constantly scrambling. Most GOP house members are on a death ride with Donald and don't know what horror lurks around the next corner. "Jesus take the wheel ", cause a loonie is gonna drive us off a cliff! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Ya know, I wanna die like my grandpappy, asleep with a smile on my face, not screaming and freaking out like the people in his car...
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DIY-HP-LED
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As a young man I've sailed with the Captain and was three sheets to the wind a few times on his ship.
b4ds33d
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Racial slurs. How, gauche and cosmopolitan.Mr. well-informed Canadian, meet a Deep South redneck.
UncleBuck
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says the guy with a pedophile in his avatar who hangs around with literal nazis that sieg heil.
SneekyNinja
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I suspect it was Bannon but he's lost that so hence he hasn't really been doing much tactically recently.
abandonconflict
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He has to do this. I agree with @greg nr insofar as the extreme unlikelihood of 67 senate votes to remove the president from power. Impeachment is definitely possible but I don't see removal from office. The special council has to set the legal precedent by prosecuting the criminal regime. He must prove that no one is above the law.
DIY-HP-LED
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Redneck ain't a race, but an attitude. If ya support Donald ya gotta carry his water and it's getting heavier by the day.
Are ya tired of winning yet?
DIY-HP-LED
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If Mueller provides evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors, the Congress will have little choice but to impeach. Likewise a publicly presented good case will be a hard thing for the senate to ignore. The GOP senators don't like Donald anyway, but it kinda works like Trumps bullshit, he only cares if the base buys it. All that will be required is enough evidence to peel off 18 of the safest GOP senators, the retiring, fucked, safe and those with 4 plus years in their terms, anybody primary proof. The evidence and other criminal convictions by co conspirators might do the trick and provide cover for the republicans. But who knows? Perhaps Mueller's case will be so strong and shocking that the vote might be unanimous. This is like war (in a way it is), ya don't know where it will end up and what changes good or bad will come of it.
DIY-HP-LED
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Jesus Sour Wreck, ya make it sound like Duck Dynasty down there, I can hear the banjo strumming out deliverance in the background. Is ya a McCoy or a Hatfield? Liberal (satan worshiping heathen commie) or a God fearing republican? Fur Trump or against? I'm sure there are lot's of em, they make cable TV shows for them, but they are not the majority.
We have a milder version here, without the tribalism, ever see "Trailer park boys"? Some characters from my neck of the woods, eastern Canada.
'i will sign anything' gives them too much wood.
Sour Wreck
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we've had tribalism since the civil war. its been alive and well my whole life.
i've heard the south will rise again my whole life.
fucking homeschooled motherfuckers !!!!! its fucking disgusting.
we just had issues at a high school several hours down the road, where all the white boys decided they will all start flying the confederate flag at school
racism and tribalism is alive and well
DIY-HP-LED
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I can imagine Trump's impeachment trial where he's testifying in his defense in the senate on national TV for all to see. Fact checked on the fly, ya could put a perjury-o-meter dynamic graphic in the corner of the screen to capture the bullshit in realtime and ya could also have a perjury jail time counter there too.
The WH and GOP are panicking about a perjury trap in the coming Mueller "interview" for a reason, trump is incapable of telling the truth. He can't help himself and an ego trap will turn into a perjury trap, those around him know this for a near certainty and are behaving accordingly. There's a whole lot of freaking out going on around Trump and he's squirming bigly, now they are going after deputy AG Rosenstein. He gets to decide what to do with Mueller's report, so he's got a target on him. The whole Nunes memo thing is an effort to discredit Rosenstein and give Trump cover to fire him.
I don't think it's gonna work.
The WH and GOP are panicking about a perjury trap in the coming Mueller "interview" for a reason, trump is incapable of telling the truth. He can't help himself and an ego trap will turn into a perjury trap, those around him know this for a near certainty and are behaving accordingly. There's a whole lot of freaking out going on around Trump and he's squirming bigly, now they are going after deputy AG Rosenstein. He gets to decide what to do with Mueller's report, so he's got a target on him. The whole Nunes memo thing is an effort to discredit Rosenstein and give Trump cover to fire him.
I don't think it's gonna work.
greg nr
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Wow, what are you guys smokin and where can I get some?
You seem to be in an alternate universe; one where the gop has a concience and a soul they care about. Where they can be moved by patriotism, and honor the rule of law. Where they can be convinced to put country ahead of party.
If there is anything that post newt gop has shown us, it's that none of that is true.
They will never come to reason, never ignore the money, and like trump, they seem to great pleasure simply destroying what others hold dear.
That is the world of the real.
You seem to be in an alternate universe; one where the gop has a concience and a soul they care about. Where they can be moved by patriotism, and honor the rule of law. Where they can be convinced to put country ahead of party.
If there is anything that post newt gop has shown us, it's that none of that is true.
They will never come to reason, never ignore the money, and like trump, they seem to great pleasure simply destroying what others hold dear.
That is the world of the real.
DIY-HP-LED
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People of that age tend to be a bit tribal, in some circles it's what ya wear that counts. In high schools ya got yer jocks, preppies and goths, etc, group identity is strong, as people develop their own image of themselves. Deep down inside many of these people don't really believe whites are smarter and better than brown folks, their granddaddy did, their daddy had doubts and they have countless examples of african american success on TV. Attitudes change and even among these folks regular culture seeps in. HIstory is a heavy burden is some places.we've had tribalism since the civil war. its been alive and well my whole life.
i've heard the south will rise again my whole life.
fucking homeschooled motherfuckers !!!!! its fucking disgusting.
we just had issues at a high school several hours down the road, where all the white boys decided they will all start flying the confederate flag at school
racism and tribalism is alive and well
Fear and uncertainty amplify natural tribal tendencies, look at what will happen to the FBI when their tribe is attacked, they will go tribal too, band together and recruit allies, so it has its uses and is not completely negative. For the larger the society the more you can reduce fear and hatred through reasonable gun laws, single payer health care, justice system reforms, human rights laws, hate laws and adequate social programs, the better. If people are less fear driven they make better choices. People like Rush and Hannity foster fear, hatred and outrage so they can manipulate their audience, it's an old trick.
DIY-HP-LED
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Just what I see on the cable news and read online. The Trump crowd is panicking for a reason, they are even going after the FBI. Comey fired, McCabe intimidated and tried to fire, Wray threatened to resign, Mueller ordered fired, FBI field agents attacked, Rosenstein under attack by the Nunes memo, the list goes on. These are the actions of people on the loosing side of history! They are desperate, attacking the FBI is insane, they are gonna run against Mueller in the midterms if they keep this bullshit up and they are going to be destroyed in the process. They are just waiting for the chance to jump ship, in the meantime the cocksuckers are on a kamikaze mission.
Trump ain't God, in fact he's going to Hell real soon, he can already feel the heat and smell the brimstone. These pricks are running around like chickens with their heads cut off for a reason. He's guilty as Hell and everybody knows it, he is very worried, it's reflected in his actions.
greg nr
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No, he is POTUS. We give our president's virtually unlimited power. Really. The founders did that because (1) they believed no human elected to the position would be as arrogant and criminal as trump is and (b) they assumed that even if (1) did happen, the house and senate would simply remove the problem.
They never envisioned that the president would be complicit with the house and senate to destroy our democracy, but that is where we are.
The gop simply doesn't care. As long as they get to rob the treasury and become rich enough to sin with impunity, they will be happy in the end.
You seem to think they are panicking. They aren't. They are flailing; there is a difference. If Trump weren't a gutless wonder, he would have fired muehler back in April when he was appointed and shut the whole thing down. The republicans would have gone along with that also.
What you view as panic is just ineptitude. The spirit is willing but the mind is weak. We are lucky in a way that they are so feckless. A competent crook would have us all living under a fox news monopoly and the internet would be locked down tighter than in china. We may still get there, but not under this fearless leader.
And be suspicious of this big blue wave. The gop has countless ways to attenuate it. Russia is still active and gerrymandering is still in place. People are easily divided. Especially democrats.
GOTV is about all we can do in the end. But if people decide to stay home, if they believe there is no real difference between the parties (because that will rusiia's and fox's message from now till 2020), if they get pissed off their precious candidate didn't get the nomination, then we will see that blue wave dissapear and we will have trump forever.
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