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maxamus1

maxamus1

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hey guys i appreciate the help with the last question i do, but why dose that happen. is it the water temp or something?
 
drabstab

drabstab

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What happens when I drown my roots? I've got my feeder tubes going to three of the four plants in my system but it's the one without feeder tubes that is really pushing its roots out of the net pot! There's a huge difference, I'm thinking maybe the tubes are giving them too much water, and thus they don't have to reach for it.. maybe?
 
maxamus1

maxamus1

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if i am correct the one you don't have a feeder tube in is searching for water to live so it sends more roots to find it. so i would say no to you over watering the others.
 
drabstab

drabstab

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maxamus1 said:
if i am correct the one you don't have a feeder tube in is searching for water to live so it sends more roots to find it. so i would say no to you over watering the others.
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Isn't the end goal to get the roots in deep water asap? Wouldn't this mean my plain DWC plant has a head start, and not the ones with the feeder tubes?
 
JonnyBtreed

JonnyBtreed

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The feeder tubes feed the plant constantly until the roots hit the water. At which time you might see improved root growth searching for water after the tubes are removed. How would a system that you have to hand water yourself every hour or so be better than a system that does it automatically for you?
 
drabstab

drabstab

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JonnyBtreed said:
The feeder tubes feed the plant constantly until the roots hit the water. At which time you might see improved root growth searching for water after the tubes are removed. How would a system that you have to hand water yourself every hour or so be better than a system that does it automatically for you?
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Well I have three that are tube-fed, one that is not. I should specify that I'm using peat pellets instead of rockwool. (PLEASE don't get on my back about the peat pellets, I already know the problems and am now experiencing them.) My tubes are only giving them water because I don't have my nutrients yet. (should be here today or tomorrow)

Anyway because I'm using peat pellets instead of rockwool, I don't have to hand-water. I hand watered the non-tube plant once when I set up the system, and since then the bubbles bursting at the surface have kept the net pot and even the peat pellet totally moist. So I've never had to water it again.
 
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MeisterYo

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Roseman, when you drained your res and tank how did you do it? You lift the lid and throw a pump in or did you pour it out after setting the lids somewhere?

I like your piece of notched wood idea.
 
maxamus1

maxamus1

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drabstab said:
Isn't the end goal to get the roots in deep water asap? Wouldn't this mean my plain DWC plant has a head start, and not the ones with the feeder tubes?
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i would say no but i could be wrong if they are growing the same rate, the others should pick up root mass as they grow.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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drabstab said:
So I got home from work today and my res smelled like straight-up shit. Changed out the water and PHed it, but they're still only being given water. The mail man is not fast enough. While I was clearing out the old water I noticed a lot of floaty stuff in there, some of it got stuck in the pump screen and the smaller bits got stuck the in feeder tubes. This is the downfall of trying bubbleponics with peat pellets.
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AFter 3 weeks or after the roots are int he deep water, get that pump out of there, or remove and clean it then put it back. The trash in it will really screw up the pH.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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MeisterYo said:
Roseman, when you drained your res and tank how did you do it? You lift the lid and throw a pump in or did you pour it out after setting the lids somewhere?

I like your piece of notched wood idea.
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I lifted the lid, propped it up on my home made holder, and I stuck my pump in, plugged it up and drained it. After I was finished, I took the pump back out.

I am buying a $10 DRILL WATER PUMP today at Lowes. Sometimes I just syphon it out.

I never take the lid off after the first week. I just prop it up.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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A water pump can harbor dead debris, and crap that really screws up the pH. Give your water the sniff test to determine if the water pump is spoiling the water. It should smell like fresh cut lettuce or alfalfa sprouts, and not stink bad. Most all water pumps have a filter in them tht needs cleaning after two weeks, or get the pump out of there after 3 weeks.
 
doctorD

doctorD

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Ok so here is an issue im having. My ph climbs about one point in a day or so. I have only done a grow or two in the dwc and didnt have this in the past. Did I just get lucky in the past or is something wrong now? Also when the res gets low I just top it off with a gallon or two of nutrient solution. But I was talking to a buddy the other day and came up with some questions. I know lots of people just top off as I do so maybe I can get an answer here. Lets say a dwc plant is chugging along happily eating away what it needs. Im sure it will consume some compounds more readily than others so wouldnt it stand to reason that some components in the res will be much more depleted than others? If this is the case wouldnt toping off continue this cycle? In other words, the top off will add an additonal amount of a compound not readily used? Will that then lead to a potential harmful amount of whatever compound is building up in the res? Any input? I dont like the idea of a full res change as I think its a waste nitrients but it may be the best way to go.
 
JonnyBtreed

JonnyBtreed

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doctorD said:
Ok so here is an issue im having. My ph climbs about one point in a day or so. I have only done a grow or two in the dwc and didnt have this in the past. Did I just get lucky in the past or is something wrong now? Also when the res gets low I just top it off with a gallon or two of nutrient solution. But I was talking to a buddy the other day and came up with some questions. I know lots of people just top off as I do so maybe I can get an answer here. Lets say a dwc plant is chugging along happily eating away what it needs. Im sure it will consume some compounds more readily than others so wouldnt it stand to reason that some components in the res will be much more depleted than others? If this is the case wouldnt toping off continue this cycle? In other words, the top off will add an additonal amount of a compound not readily used? Will that then lead to a potential harmful amount of whatever compound is building up in the res? Any input? I dont like the idea of a full res change as I think its a waste nitrients but it may be the best way to go.
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Very true, that's why it's important to do a full res change every seven days. That way you don't have a continual buildup.
 
drabstab

drabstab

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What's the deal with flora micro vs. flora micro hardwater? I'm using tap water with a high PH (higher than 7.6, not sure exactly what). My tap water leaves stains in the toilet and shower so I know it's got plenty of shit in it. Do I go with hardwater?
 
Roseman

Roseman

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doctorD said:
Ok so here is an issue im having. My ph climbs about one point in a day or so.
as mentioned in several post in this thread, up above, it is normal to climp up one point, like from 6.0 to 7.0 daily. From 6.0 to 8.0 in one day is NOT normal tho.


I have only done a grow or two in the dwc and didnt have this in the past. Did I just get lucky in the past or is something wrong now? Also when the res gets low I just top it off with a gallon or two of nutrient solution.

That topping off with a fractional dose of nutes is ok if done every other day, but you need to do a Drain and Replinish once a week

But I was talking to a buddy the other day and came up with some questions. I know lots of people just top off as I do so maybe I can get an answer here. Lets say a dwc plant is chugging along happily eating away what it needs. Im sure it will consume some compounds more readily than others so wouldnt it stand to reason that some components in the res will be much more depleted than others?

you are absolutely right.

If this is the case wouldnt toping off continue this cycle?
you are absolutely right.

In other words, the top off will add an additonal amount of a compound not readily used? Will that then lead to a potential harmful amount of whatever compound is building up in the res? Any input? I dont like the idea of a full res change as I think its a waste nitrients but it may be the best way to go.
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I think 99% of all growers do a Drain and Replinish weekly or every ten days at least, for the reasons you mentioned.

- Drain and Replinish # 10395
 
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