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MeisterYo

Well-Known Member
I'm scrapping my current bubbler set up. It's not working as I had hoped. I'm going to a single 5 gal with a air stone. Any ideas on keeping the rez temps down? the only thing going at this point is it will sit on a bare basement floor.
Thats what I use most.

Use 6inch net pots with rock wool and the roots of transplanted clone at the very bottom. fill bucket with water until roots touch or until rock wool starts to wick. Throw an air hose in the bottom with 1/4 or less size bubbles and you can grow a tree in it.

I haven't had problems with warm nutes yet.
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
That sure is a male! Sorry! Only thing they are good for is breeding. At least that's what most women say! I claim we can lift heavy stuff too so we got that going for us! LOL!
 

drabstab

Active Member
Is it possible to substitute pea gravel for hydroton? Advantages/disadvantages? What about peat pellets instead of rockwool?
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
I've heard of pea gravel done before but it can stay a little too moist because pea gravel can pack dense. Peat pellets contain organics and that can mess up hydro.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
I tried to copy and paste the image into my signature pic and it says invalid file. What am I doing wrong? Lol
THE BUBLEHEAD GANG!
We are NOT DirtBags!!! We can grow in water!

Right click the BubbleHead Logo, save it to your computer, then upload it to your signature.
 

superjoint

Active Member
ok,I switced out my flex wand air lines,for cheap aistones,and its much better,looks like a hot tub in the res now.Those flex wands worked ok with an aquarium pump,but with a high output pump it was too restrictive.
Eventually I will add micro pore aerators so I dont have to keep buying airstones.I have so much air ,it actually is kinda noisy in the res now after I aded 2nd airstone ,no problem though.
 

erkelsgoo420

New Member
I can't. I'm on a cell phone:/ ill try and snag some wi fi here in a few days and ill do it from the laptop. All the neighbors have secured networks that I can't seem to figure out the codes for lol.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Hey Rose I'm going to a single 5 gal with a air stone. Any ideas on keeping the rez temps down? .

The best range that your reservoir can be between is 60F-75F. Ideally the reservoir temperature should be at 65F because this level contains the most oxygen.
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I've got some tips and tricks for controlling reservoir temps...

First, insulating your res really helps stabilize the temps. Wrap mylar or insulation around it; I build my reservoirs out of ice coolers (attachment 1).

I used to put blue ice bags in the res if the temps started to rise, but I can no longer recommend putting ice in the root zone. During my last grow I did this, and the plant closest to where I put the ice definitely didn't like it; it ended up stunted and there was a bald spot in the root zone where the ice went. And as the root mass grows there's generally not enough room to stick ice bottles in the res anyways.

If you want to use ice to cool the res you might want to try the following ideas:

1. I jury-rigged some quart and half-gallon jugs using drip line and a drip-line shut-off valve (attachment 2). What I do is freeze them overnight and then stick the line in a hole on top of the res in the morning (attachment 3). This serves a few purposes: 1) provides a slow flow of cold water to the res throughout the day, so the roots aren't shocked by a rapid change in temperature; 2) keeps the res topped off; and 3) serves as a ghetto A/C for the grow area. The main disadvantage is condensation; I have to keep a rag under the jug to soak up water.

2. I built a semi-recirculating DWC for my latest grow (water pump is on a timer). Basically, I have a separate reservoir that is connected to my plant reservoirs via plumbing and a pump. I'm doing this for several reasons: 1) one thing I hate about DWC is that you generally have to lift the lid to do any maintenance in the res - a separate res allows you to easily do maintenance without disturbing the plant reservoirs; 2) I'm planning on doing a ScrOG - once the plants are in the screen lifting the lids becomes problematic; 4) more water means that things like temperature, ph, and nutrient concentration are more stable; and 3) if I need to cool the reservoirs I can put ice in the shared res without worrying about the roots. The main disadvantages are complexity, size of system, and more nute usage.

Some other ideas:

1. Put your air pump in a cool area. It seems like most people put their pump on top of the reservoir under the lights. If it is hot where you put the pump, then you're going to be pumping hot air into the res. I try to put mine outside the grow area if possible, or as close to the inlet as possible.

2. Direct some airflow from the inlet over the res using a fan.

3. If you use a humidifier like what Roseman recommends try directing the air from the outlet over the res using a fan. Acts kind of like a swamp cooler; I've found it lowers the temp over my res by about 5*.

Contributed from Dystopia



To get the temp down and the humidity up, try these:

You need a fan pulling heat out and a fan pulling cool air in.

You have to have an oscilating fan on the plants.
Lay wet rolled up like a cigar wash rags everywhere.
Hang a soaking wet bath towel on a cloths hanger and let it drip into a pan or bucket.
Put a frozen milk jug of water in front of a fan or let it drip into something by putting a pin hole in it.
Get a bucket, put ice in it or frozen water and blow a fan into the bucket, blowing cool air everywhere. And you can put Pine Sol or ONA in the bucket for Odor Control.



Put saucers and cups of water everywhere.
Mist the plants with plain pH water.
Put Frozen cups of water on the lids and everywhere around the plants.
 

funkydope

Well-Known Member
Hey Rose did you just smoke a fatty?
I'm scrapping my current bubbler set up. It's not working as I had hoped. I'm going to a single 5 gal with a air stone. Any ideas on keeping the rez temps down? the only thing going at this point is it will sit on a bare basement floor.
Here is what I did. I am using 5 gal buckets, with air stones and a sub pump. I put my air pumps outside my grow tent. But my rez temps would still creep because of ambient heat inside the tent. Since I'm a little bit of a car buff; I thought I would take a concept for cooling my engine and see if I could apply it to Hydro. So I took some Thermo Tec tape (used for wrapping headers and other things to keep radiant heat out) and wrapped my buckets with that. Now I have almost no temp creeping at all. When I put in 65 degree water...it may rise 1 degree during the day...but that's it! Here is a link to some on ebay....fairly cheep too... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THERMO-TEC-14002-THERMO-SHIELD-HEAT-TAPE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem53d978d7d6QQitemZ360130861014QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Here is what I did. I am using 5 gal buckets, with air stones and a sub pump. I put my air pumps outside my grow tent. But my rez temps would still creep because of ambient heat inside the tent. Since I'm a little bit of a car buff; I thought I would take a concept for cooling my engine and see if I could apply it to Hydro. So I took some Thermo Tec tape (used for wrapping headers and other things to keep radiant heat out) and wrapped my buckets with that. Now I have almost no temp creeping at all. When I put in 65 degree water...it may rise 1 degree during the day...but that's it! Here is a link to some on ebay....fairly cheep too... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THERMO-TEC-14002-THERMO-SHIELD-HEAT-TAPE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem53d978d7d6QQitemZ360130861014QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Great Post, + REP, Roseman
 

stumps

Well-Known Member
Well hell, I'm going to clean the first setup and set it up with clones again. Moving the air pump to the window seal helped rez temps a bunch. Thanks for the tip. It won't help in the summer but I think I can rig the ac vent so the air pumps are in the ducting.
 

stumps

Well-Known Member
After two days in cooler water these roots are looking much whiter. ph is at 6-6.2, 75% nute mix or 760 ppm, 1/2 tsp superthrive and 1/2 cup h2o2. rez temp at 70f. What needs to be changed. I should have got a root pic when it came out of the warmer water. here is what it looks like now.
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MostlyCrazy

New Member
I see new white root "prongs" and that a good thing. If ight be the color of the picture but they look a little N starved to me. Lighter green color and the bleached leaves at the bottom are indicators. Could be that the old roots just couldn't take up the N but keep an eye on it. Got to be close to full nutes judging from the size of the plant.
 
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