The Best N-P-K
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RickWhite
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This is exactly the point and the answer is no. Humans get all they need from food assuming their diet is not super bad. Supplements are largely a waste of money in most cases. And you can not put steroids into the same category.
Plants, like humans have basic nutritional needs. Sure, the manufacturers would like you to believe they product contains plant steroids or other magic formula but they don't.
Manufacturers of weed specific nuets are mostly taking advantage of the popular fallacy that everything that is more expensive is better.
Chances are, these are fly by night companies that are just copying the ingredients of standard fertilizers using the cheapest stuff they can buy and putting it in a fancy bottles.
YouGrowBoy
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Sounds plausible. I'm trying Jack's Classic for Orchids (30-10-10) as a veg nute. I'm trying 1000 ppm to see what happens.
I did add a bit of silica and a root zone additive.
snooopdave
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i agree with rick. i compare the fertilizer scene to the exercise supplement scene. If you look at a magazine of muscle fitness, muscle development, flex or whatever other mags on weight lifting are out these days you will see all sorts of advertisements for supplements that 'you cant go without'. that will bulk you up shred you up etc etc... I bought into it at one point, then finally realized it was a big waste of money and a well balanced diet was key. I've used the gh maxi series with success and am now about to switch over to jacks grow and bloom. When I pick out my mom plants i'll do a thread that compares dry gh to dry fox farms to dry jacks all used on the same clones.
snooopdave
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if someone runs across a fertilizer comparison thread post it. i've only been able to find one that compares fox farms to an and one other fertilizer. an was in the lead last i checked 
Uncle Ben
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There is really too much talk about products. You need to focus on ALl the factors that make a plant tick, and understand basic plant nutrition. If your favorite bottle is not providing what cannabis needs, then find one that will.if someone runs across a fertilizer comparison thread post it. i've only been able to find one that compares fox farms to an and one other fertilizer. an was in the lead last i checked
If you need a feeding chart and someone to tell you what to do (which NEVER works), then you shouldn't be growing.....you simply do not understand what makes a plant tick. Until you do, you'll be jumping around trying every gimmick, rocket fuel, and forum "new technique" out there trying to make it work.
Dyna-Gro gives amounts for continuous feed or occasional use if this is your question. Plants do best with moderate amounts of salts fed to them continuously, depending on their REQUIREMENTS. You will have to learn what that threshold requirement is whether it's temps, lumens, water, elements, etc.
Uncle Ben
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Wish there were simple, fixed answers, they're aint brudder.
goofygolfer
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thats good to hear i been waiting on a report
Chillyhead
Active Member
Hey Rick, I'm running DG Foliage Pro in an Ebb and Grow system too. Switched over from Lucas formula after reading a bunch of Uncle Ben posts and my plants are thriving. Are you planning on switching to something different for flowering or running the Dyna Grow through the whole grow?
Waiakeauka
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How good is the 10-30-10+Mg that is sold in 50lb bags for $33 at the agricultural wholesaler that supply the commercial farmers?
Uncle Ben
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Got a link to an analysis? Price sounds good. Commercial farmers aren't going to waste their money on typical foods though if it's what I think it is. Now, if it's totally soluble and meant for drip lines, nurseries and such, you're fine. You don't want a food designed for turf.
UB
CrackerJax
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The old gardeners axiom is 3-2-1 for veg....and 1-2-3 for flowering.
Jimmy Luffnan
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When you start to get your head around nutrients, you will work out the best values to be using... probably why most experienced growers tend to make their own 
I have a super friend that actually makes nutrients for a living and supplies me with a single part veg nutrient that totally smashes any product I have ever used (and there has been a few), and it works terrific for me so I'm ecstatic
NPK value of 20-8-18 with some stabilizers for PH and Calcium and it costs me the about the same price as milk
It is important to experiment with nutrients and not just use "the pretty ones" as it's surprising how many "cheapo" nutes do an amazing job for a fraction of the price.
Choosing nutes by their quality and values and not by their glitzy labels has always worked for me
I have a super friend that actually makes nutrients for a living and supplies me with a single part veg nutrient that totally smashes any product I have ever used (and there has been a few), and it works terrific for me so I'm ecstatic
NPK value of 20-8-18 with some stabilizers for PH and Calcium and it costs me the about the same price as milk
It is important to experiment with nutrients and not just use "the pretty ones" as it's surprising how many "cheapo" nutes do an amazing job for a fraction of the price.
Choosing nutes by their quality and values and not by their glitzy labels has always worked for me
Uncle Ben
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Salts are salts, labels are labels. Most members choose the latter. "Cannabis specific" vendors or "manufacturers" play on that FACT.NPK value of 20-8-18 with some stabilizers for PH and Calcium and it costs me the about the same price as milk
Choosing nutes by their quality and values and not by their glitzy labels has always worked for me
UB
RickWhite
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Glad to hear it, what EC are you running? I've ben sticking around 1.
For bloom I go with the bloom formula.
doc111
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I recently started using Dyna-Gro on my soilless plants. The Foliage Pro rocks!
Hey Rick, when do you transition from Foliage Pro to the Bloom formula?
