The Art of The Auto

John Mondello

John Mondello

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FullDuplex said:
You bet they do. And sadly this thread has had a few real tools.
But if you starve them like you said they go away




couldnt miss it. I think that it IS the bud they smoke. We may actually be on to something new. Maybe there is a hidden genetic in the auto that makes it produce
a more relaxed high/mood :) (maybe just another pipe dream)



This is interesting. Ive done a million other things with the peppers but never thought of it like this. I can see that the rush of blood will cause the nerves to relax a bit as they are getting over fed. it kind plays on the rules that you cant feel pain in two places at once.

If you have pain in one location either attack it at the location with something like this or inflict pain on another body part......lol i think ill give it a try. Gonna have to thaw some out and dry them and make some paste.

Maybe Chyna can give me a good place to look for some base mix for a cream.

Anybody seen him lately?
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yeah, it actually stimulates healing by drawing in certain receptors in the blood... in that wiki thing...

J

ps - just kidding around about the closet dude..I'm neither in or out eiher... just wanted to make everybody crack a smile :)
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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mossys said:
If teachers could make it so enjoyable..we would all have Degrees.


Well..they are coming Out of the closet as AF growers..
But..
going into the closet to Grow them...(small indoor grow rooms..).. :leaf:

John Mondello..I Think it was you that posted the PH of blood for me...
but the post is so far back I can't find it...
Cheers..gives me something to think about...:-o


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well my numbers were a lil off on ph... i said i thought about 7.2 but actually 7.35-750 is healthy human blood ph
more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acidosis

I'd definetly have a degree if that were the case btw!
j
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John Mondello

John Mondello

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FullDuplex said:
exactly, USPS does nto track as well as fedex or ups. there system is way behind and they sadly dont care about updating the process. they just figure you'll get it when you get it.

I recently had to order some replacement parts for a few laptops that i was fixing and i had to get the motherboards from china, needless to say the china air site worked great

USPS did not. The day i got the package the site still was not updated, took them a week to update the status of received. I wanted to watch it because when i ordered

my original stock from attitude i had the same issue, it got here in 7 days, but the status never updated till the day after i got it. Then all the steps showed

i also live in the south HBS, they should get there though.
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yeah, usps might as well not bother with "tracking" its more like "delivery confirmation"

ups and fedex are always spot-on tho!
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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I too, very much look forward to my "thread read" on here every day... large cup of coffe handy as well... however... haven't smoked yet today... think its over-due!
with that said... its 4:16... I've got 4 minutes to prep.... peace all!
 
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hydrolenny

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FullDuplex said:
Ive just noticed something, we have soil and soil-less mixes covered in here we need a hydro guy in here too.
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I wouldnt call myself any kind of expert at all, but I started out in hydro and have been very successful (successful to me). I am using a 3 gal DWC bubbler and Botanicare hydro nutes growing in clay pebbles. All 4 plants that I have grown in my DWC setup have grown very well and very big. Unfortunately 3 of the 4 turned out to be males.

So, yes, you have a hydro guy here, but with very limited experience.

But, I am going to move on to an autopot setup using coco and perlite. The autopot will give me the opportunity to not have to tend to my plants as often, which, in my growing space is a pain in the ass to access.
 
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hydrolenny

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mossys said:
hydrolenny....the green has started to put a mango/skunk pheno out..keep your nose open for it..I haven't had it myself..
But..
test reports say it is a good un...

Also..if you have scoped the purple and the green..
have you noticed any difference in the trics..?

IMO...Before you harvest..
pick One calyx from the very top bud..
one from the middle..
one from the end of the bottom branch..

Scan them in the micro..and just keep an eye out for the first Hint of amber..
then harvest.

IF she is Similar to ALF..and I Think she is..
she goes over Hard amber..
no shadowing...
It is very distinct..so as a first timer..you wouldn't miss it.

You will be like a Pro second time round..and the more relaxed You are the more responsive the girls become.
You will be able to sit back and enjoy it more.


haven't carried that link properly hydrolenny..
but you can see where yours got the yellowing leaf from.

Mind..if you look at the date they are Outdoor..it could just be frost-bite..:-P
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Mossy -
I chopped the purp last night. Got a pretty good yield I feel from such a small plant! I dont have a scale, but will try to borrow one from a buddy when dry. I am planning on taking a look at the greenie and depending on how it looks, I may chop in the next couple of days, if not tonight. It should be a good yielder... the greenie is a hedge! I'll scope it out and post some pics, along with the pics from the purp right before chop. I think I need a new pair of scissors after last night.. completely gunked up! I had to resist the urge to lick the scissors after I was done! haha

P.S., my plants are all indoors and temps dont get below 55F/12C.
 
Bighill

Bighill

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mossys said:
close up..the "Hair" has a Very similar internal structure...

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Yeah eh!! There is some thing going on there for sure. Mother nature doesn't do things for any old reason. A duct must be for transporting some thing :D:D

I also find it interesting you see alot more of these hairs in the indica strains. When i was looking at sativa pics of similar magnification, you don't see nearly as much. These are the white almost tric looking things? Not the red hair's but.... you know what i am trying to say? lol:?:

I almost missed this post, it was a few pages back.. :-P

I had some other stoner talk to go on about but the dog won't stop asking to go outside. Glad i don't have to shit otuside, snow'd be brushing jim and the twins... been snowing for 6 days now lol.. He looks funny bouncing around like a deer out there.

So i will tuch back later. :weed:

Bh.
 
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Dale Dickerson

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mossys said:
and that is what it is all about..:clap:

Curious..did your Mi5 auto..?
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I've grown 4 mi5s all that auto'd, but I gave 2 to a buddy who has a 150 or 200 watt CFL setup in exchange for some computer parts and one of his didn't, he had to switch to 12/12 for 8 days to get it to flower after 6 weeks of veg.
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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hey guys... I'm 10 days from start and 6 days out from germination... wanted to double check here... it seems general consensus is no nutes till flowering? no veg phase nutes.... right?
 
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Dale Dickerson

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I'm of the opinion that nutes that young can burn and cause lockout, I usually start with mine a week-10 days into flower at 1/3 dose and work up to 1/2 dosage, my little girls don't need much to thrive. (FFOF mixed 60/40 w/ perlite which makes it super light and tiger bloom only with calmg) I've found that autos are actually pretty simple to tend to if you follow a few simple suggestions.

In the spring I hope to get my own super soil going on though when I build my raised bed garden outside, so hopefully I'll be nute free then.
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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Dale Dickerson said:
I'm of the opinion that nutes that young can burn and cause lockout, I usually start with mine a week-10 days into flower at 1/3 dose and work up to 1/2 dosage, my little girls don't need much to thrive. (FFOF mixed 60/40 w/ perlite which makes it super light and tiger bloom only with calmg) I've found that autos are actually pretty simple to tend to if you follow a few simple suggestions.

In the spring I hope to get my own super soil going on though when I build my raised bed garden outside, so hopefully I'll be nute free then.
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thanks for the speedy feedyback! lol yeah, thy're happy n healthy... just gonna hit em w/ water n let em ride till 10 days or sao I guess.... man 3rd leaf set starting already!
prolific little bitches they are!
J
 
YarndiYarns

YarndiYarns

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John Mondello said:
thanks for the speedy feedyback! lol yeah, thy're happy n healthy... just gonna hit em w/ water n let em ride till 10 days or sao I guess.... man 3rd leaf set starting already!
prolific little bitches they are!
J
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Hi guys, in my (verly limited) experience I found that my Easy Riders are super sensitive to nutrients, having stunted one early on, but the Hindu Kush responded well to it.

Sadly I was only using the colour chart PH readers until today when my digital PH tester arrived. It has confirmed that I had been trying to 'feed' my girls with a PH'd water of below 5.5!! For FUCK SAKE!! No wonder I had so much dramas.

I believe one of my easy riders survived the onslaught becuase of the difference in soil composition. I have used three different types/per-centages as a learning experience.
I have been foliar feeding them supplements of Magnesium (EPSOM Salts) once a week to bring back the green into the foliage. It seems to be working (albeit slowly).
I've corrected the PH with a better tester/reader and added lime to the soil (top cover on the easy riders and into the soil itself for the Hindu Kush).

I have been enjoying this thread and I thank you for sharing your experiences and experiments.

Regards,

Yarndi.
 
Bighill

Bighill

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You should get into organic growing mate. Dolomitic lime at 1 tbs per gal will help buffer your soil from ph swings.. That and good healthy soil, the microbes will do pretty much all the work for you. Just feed teas. If you are using allready ph'd soil mixes you won't need to add much lime. For example Promix was ok from the bag, sunshine mix is great from the bag fox farms happy frog is good (hot tho). I do still add some lime to any peat based mix, as it gets acidic as it composts.

As far as feeding atuos, they will tell you when they need it. The first sign they are feeding on them selves is when the cotlydons turn yellow and die. Then once that one finger one goes it's a good time to hit em up with low/mild veg nutes. Again i like a good soil mix, you can just add water until mid flower.

Bh.
 
KuLong

KuLong

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John Mondello said:
hey guys... I'm 10 days from start and 6 days out from germination... wanted to double check here... it seems general consensus is no nutes till flowering? no veg phase nutes.... right?
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I don't know about the general consensus, but I started my nutes form the first week on and have had trouble with burning her. You can check out my journal.

I will definitely lay off the nutes (except seaweed) with my next auto until flower.

Also Bighill, I use 1 dry ounce of Dolomite lime per gallon and never had a PH problem thus far.
 
Harry Bald Sack

Harry Bald Sack

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FullDuplex said:
exactly, USPS does nto track as well as fedex or ups. there system is way behind and they sadly dont care about updating the process. they just figure you'll get it when you get it.

I recently had to order some replacement parts for a few laptops that i was fixing and i had to get the motherboards from china, needless to say the china air site worked great

USPS did not. The day i got the package the site still was not updated, took them a week to update the status of received. I wanted to watch it because when i ordered

my original stock from attitude i had the same issue, it got here in 7 days, but the status never updated till the day after i got it. Then all the steps showed

i also live in the south HBS, they should get there though.
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I should expect it any day then. It would still be nice if I had some sort of time frame so I could be looking for it. I figured it would just automatically update when they scan it after pulling it off of the plane. Why even have some kind of tracking system that doesn't function?
 
John Mondello

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Harry Bald Sack said:
I should expect it any day then. It would still be nice if I had some sort of time frame so I could be looking for it. I figured it would just automatically update when they scan it after pulling it off of the plane. Why even have some kind of tracking system that doesn't function?
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that would be the question wouldn't it? Prob just so they can say they have package tracking cuz everyone private already kicked their ass on it. So instead of do it right and cause Mass Postal Freakout Disorder (hereby referred to as MPFD from now on), they skimped... lol
 
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Scrooge

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Harry Bald Sack said:
Ok This is my first post on here and I am about to start my first grow. I have read this entire thread and I am hooked. It's great to see people that don't at all mind being an, "online marijuana coach" if you will.

I have [FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]SAGARMATHA SEEDS Double Diesel Ryder Feminized and
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Harry Bald Sack said:
[FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Lowryder #2 x AK47 on their way.[/FONT]

So here is what I am working with. My cab is 4' wide x 4' high x 12.5" deep, lined with white posterboard. I will grow 3 plants at a time in 1.5g pots. I am going to run 3 85w cfl's (=300w) with the color temp of 5100k, which leads me to my 1st question. Does this mean that the bulb is full spectrum and will they work for both veg. and flowering?

I saw allot of talk about h2o early on in this thread but nothing about well water. So, do you guys think that using well water would be okay as long as I have the ph dialed in?

I plan on keeping up with this thread and I am looking forward to taking advice from you guys and sharing my experience with these little darlings.
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I’m just catching up on this thread after being out of town on business for the past couple of weeks.

It sounds like your grow is just a little bit bigger than mine. I’m setting up a very small micro-grow to alleviate my UC symptoms.

From what I gather, these guys were on another forum and have found and new home for RIU to discuss AF Strains. I’ve learned a lot from these folks since I decided that auto-flowers were the best for my current situation.
 
Harry Bald Sack

Harry Bald Sack

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John Mondello said:
that would be the question wouldn't it? Prob just so they can say they have package tracking cuz everyone private already kicked their ass on it. So instead of do it right and cause Mass Postal Freakout Disorder (hereby referred to as MPFD from now on), they skimped... lol
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HAHAHA Well maybe it is a good thing for us that they don't have their shit together, if you know what I mean... and God forbid we have a, "MPFD" epidemic. lmao
Maybe they should have stuck with the PONY EXPRESS system.

Scrooge said:


I’m just catching up on this thread after being out of town on business for the past couple of weeks.

It sounds like your grow is just a little bit bigger than mine. I’m setting up a very small micro-grow to alleviate my UC symptoms.

From what I gather, these guys were on another forum and have found and new home for RIU to discuss AF Strains. I’ve learned a lot from these folks since I decided that auto-flowers were the best for my current situation.
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UC symptoms?

Yes, I have definitely learned allot from these cats and continue to learn more every day. Not to mention that they are a bunch of cool ass mofo's.

HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS!!!
 
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