The Art of The Auto

43Hitman said:

Hey FD, did my first dose of Epsom salt yesterday, how long does it generally take to notice the effects of the 'medicine'? I was considering giving another dose today, but figured I should let the soil dry out a touch first. Thanks again for your help.

EDIT: Oh and one more questions, when the yellowing stops, will the green return, or is the damage done already?

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Glad to hear that you have things under way. You should stop seeing progress on the damage with in the next few days. The yellowing should stop and the new growth should not be impacted. let the soil dry out a little bit first cause you dont want to stress her any more by over watering her. The green will not return the cell tissue of the leaf is already damaged. She will use what is left in the leaf and it will die off. Once that damage has been done there is no going back. just have to watch the new growth to determine if it has really stopped.

Dont know if you got my last post to you, check your PM's wrote ya about something and never heard back from ya.

FullD..you have exceeded your stored message capacity...
so until you delete a bit..
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FullDuplex said:

Glad to hear that you have things under way. You should stop seeing progress on the damage with in the next few days. The yellowing should stop and the new growth should not be impacted. let the soil dry out a little bit first cause you dont want to stress her any more by over watering her. The green will not return the cell tissue of the leaf is already damaged. She will use what is left in the leaf and it will die off. Once that damage has been done there is no going back. just have to watch the new growth to determine if it has really stopped.

Dont know if you got my last post to you, check your PM's wrote ya about something and never heard back from ya.

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Got it and replied.

mossys said:

FullD..you have exceeded your stored message capacity...
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lol oops

taken care of guys sorry about that

FullDuplex said:

lol oops

taken care of guys sorry about that

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Do I need to re-send?

43Hitman said:

Do I need to re-send?

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nope your reply should be awaiting you

Hey Duplex, I think my questions from page 41 have been overlooked. Can you help?

So here is what I am working with. My cab is 4' wide x 4' high x 12.5" deep, lined with white posterboard. I will grow 3 plants at a time in 1.5g pots. I am going to run 3 85w cfl's (=300w) with the color temp of 5100k, which leads me to my 1st question. Does this mean that the bulb is full spectrum and will they work for both veg. and flowering?

I saw allot of talk about h2o early on in this thread but nothing about well water. So, do you guys think that using well water would be okay as long as I have the ph dialed in?

hello all! well ive just gone through the whole thread and it definitely feels like the old "home" what with all the info and the friendly vibes from the old gang!

on the subject of the "auto" blueberrys that are't autoflowering. ive grown out a few generations of lowlifes blueberry and it has flowered when its supposed to everytime. but the thing ive noticed from the photos is that those ones are rather large. lowlifes blueberry does not get large unless you give it a massive pot. i grew in 5litre pots and still ended up with pretty small plants. i would be inclined to say that those are NOT lowlifes genetics, but who knows!

ive also noticed that lowlife has brought out a white widow cross, mmmmmmm

have placed my vote on the auto sub section thread. in these times when auto's are becoming so popular there has to be a complete dedicated section to our movement. people who grow auto's love them and many who havent are becoming curious and deciding to give it a go. this is the next generation ganja

this thread has been very informative... thanks to all for your wonderful advice(s)! I just started 21 AF yesterday from netherlands seeds co... auto widow - 7 auto berry - 7 and lowryder #2 - 7. Cant wait to see the explosive results! 400 hps, co2 injected, dual uvb supllementals and currently on 24/0 till they pop. Will post photos of the setup soon!

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FD: Sadly that isn't my work.. I have been scouring the web for some nice macros of trichs and leaves. Since mossy posted that stuff about the terps. I have been trying to see what i can dig up that shows the different formations.

BaldSac: I don't see why the well water wouldn't be bad. If you have the money maybe get yourself on a RO system. That way you have a control to work with, you can add calmag and nutes from there. The well water will have a plus as is, you won't have to let your tap water sit, to off gas chlorine.

JohnM: Can't wait to see them humming mate.. uvb's and everything

Big hill... The Idea of using my well water is to save money without sacrificing water purity. maybe I will start them on purified water and switch to well about to weeks in and see if there are any ill effects or slowing of growth. What about the 5100k's? Will they be alright for the process?

*the entire process. That is.

FullDuplex said:

Looks like were getting the entire team back together here. Now with Chyna and lowrdr. Good stuff

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Greetz, Full D...thanks for the welcome, and allowing the bombardment of your thread

Maybe if we stay hidden in one thread, 'they' will not find us... heres hoping the stalinist gulag atmosphere doesn't emerge here :/

@Bighill - thanks for the tipoff, bro...have been wandering aimlessly since the old AF forum went to hell

mossys said:

How do you think I felt...I've had Dreams trying to imagine how Your Orange Crush girl turned out.....
she Haunts me

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Well, I had a big outdoor run with her progeny, with 17 males, and 12 fems...selected 4 very orange males and hit the 5 most orangey girls...none of them looked like the orange crush girl that was just sooo damn good...most resembled the other orange girl I had mixed in with her seed, more of a straight Cali-o pheno. I have yet to launch any of the progeny of this mating, as my space is just so damn small. Hopefully the orange crush pheno will reappear in some of the seed.

I hear you on the 1:1 THC/CBD ratio...I have been lurking at Mr Nice, trying to get more info on 'The Remedy' from the CBD Crew...supposedly produces 6% THC & 6% CBD. Will be a godsend if the cannabinoid profile breeds true...if shantibaba is involved, there has got to be some legitimacy to it..I have a PM into him in hopes I can get more info and some of the beans....

I was able to secure the use of a GC, but you know what, it is absolutely worthless without the standards required for calibration, and the DEA tightly controls them...God how I loathe my Government.

I am focusing on more sativa girls ATM...since I got the pain and inflamation under pretty good, and consistent control, I am now looking for more energy and uplifting of mood...got a couple haze hyrid girls and 2 Congo girls in bloom now, and have been harvesting cuttings from my c99 mom at 45 days, and my Sk1xafghani mom at 50...nice and upity

Cheers all

Harry Bald Sack said:

Hey Duplex, I think my questions from page 41 have been overlooked. Can you help?

So here is what I am working with. My cab is 4' wide x 4' high x 12.5" deep, lined with white posterboard. I will grow 3 plants at a time in 1.5g pots. I am going to run 3 85w cfl's (=300w) with the color temp of 5100k, which leads me to my 1st question. Does this mean that the bulb is full spectrum and will they work for both veg. and flowering?

I saw allot of talk about h2o early on in this thread but nothing about well water. So, do you guys think that using well water would be okay as long as I have the ph dialed in?

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First off i want to apologize, did not mean to miss this.
Sometimes i get caught up in it all and miss one here and there

Sounds to me that you have a decent amount of CFL's for the space, if you can get a few more in there though i dont think it would hurt any. Maybe something along the sides would help.

As far as the spectrum of the bulb sounds to me that its pretty mid staff on the spec chart. I would go with something more in the 6500k range if at all possible. it just seemed to promote better branching for me. If you run that bulb the entire course your plants may not branch as much.

It will be interesting to watch a grow with one as i have never seen this spec used. Hell it might cover it all and do great. One thing i can assure you of though, i have seen full grows with 6500k bulbs and the buds looked great. So i dont think it will negatively impact your grow. Just your plants may react different to it than say mine or Upto's

Now the well water thing, sounds to me you have a great source of water for free. Its as good as my rain water. I too have tested well water and i get better plant health from it than tap. I got the same luster with the well water as i did the rain water. I would Deff dial in the pH so you are where you need to be but as far as a bad thing for the plants, its exact other way around,its good for them. Just think of all the natural minerals that are in there calcium, magnesium, copper, and a few others that most guys dont have in reworked water.

That is what I was thinking with the minerals. If I am able to put maybe 2 more cfl's in there they will have to be much smaller. These 85 watters are 10" long x 4.5" wide. Would it really be worth it to try and cram 2 more lights that are 1/4 the wattage as the 85's. It is pretty bright in there as is but I know the more light the better.

I will try to put up some picks so you have an Idea what I am working with here. (if I can get some descent pics with my phone)

The 1st one is the outside of the box with the door open. In the 3rd I have a bag seed that has been going for 2 weeks so and can have some sort of Idea how the afl's will respond to my setup. I also put my 5" cactus in there so you get some perspective on the space.

pics where u see the 48" fluros are the veggie chamber up top... othr pics are "autflower" / flower chamber in bottom) currently 2 Super Silver Haze mothers there in the front... used a furnace thermostat system tied to 2 ritetemp digital thermo controllers driving a 90 CFM Air King bathroom exhaust fan (2.5 sonas) whisper quiet! My place is heated with a ventless propane heater thereby producing CO2 which is indirectly inducted into the grow cham,bers (top first then bottom) and therby exhausted through an existing dryer vent! this was the dryer/washer room... i decided it makes more sense to pay to do my laundry! I fully intend to add full-on co2 injection in the coming months when finances allow. The 2 "CFLs" are actually 26 watt reptisun 10.0 UVB lights for a little supllemental to aid in maximinzing yields... i think i will be putting the 2 cfls lower down in a few days to get better direct effect. any comments questions / suggestions are always appreciated... but I wont listen to anyone who trys to tell me not to try autos! lol

Bighill said:

FD: Sadly that isn't my work.. I have been scouring the web for some nice macros of trichs and leaves. Since mossy posted that stuff about the terps. I have been trying to see what i can dig up that shows the different formations.

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Well your research is fantastic, the shots have been amazing. i need to get a better macro lens for my DSLR and then we could get some custom shots of these strains, thing is the lens i want is as much as the camera body was.....

My heart just sunk after I read this. While searching for info on the seeds that I have coming. (SAGARMATHA DOUBLE DIESEL RYDER) Apparently Sagarmatha started having huge problems with the DDR'S about this same time last year. I continued to look for more info on the the matter and I have not been able to find anything. If they have not corrected the problem then why would a seed company still carry the product and ruin the breeders name?

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=148689

Has anyone heard anything about these DDR"S?

Knowing what I spent on these possible bunk beaners makes me want to cry.

I got a haze auto and roadrunner about 6 days old and doing good, is it ok to run the lights 24 hours with autos the whole way?