teflondummy
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I have had one or two turn into total mutants and not grow much at all give it a couple of weeks. sometimes they just hit a growth spurt and explode
The Art of The Auto
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spaceinvaders
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really? its strange cos the other 1 is fine and this 1 is like the 1st set of leaves have just crunched together instead of opening out.
FullDuplex
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You got it John any time man just glad to be able to pass along the info when i can.icu STANDS FOR? AND THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE INFO AND TIPS MAN! WHEW! i DEF GOOTAA GET SOME BAD BETTY AND icu@2 GENETICS ROLLING.... MMMMM HMMMM
CAN'T WAIT TO START MAKING MY OWN SOIL.... MAYBE I SHOULD RENT SOME STORAGE SPACE AND MAKE ROOM IN MY LVIING ROOM SO I CAN GET THAT SHIT REFINED BY THIS SPRING...
BTW... YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME FOR THE COMPLIMENT MY FRIEND... YOU'VE ERANED IT!
I mix all the soil in one of those Keg buckets from wal mart. i use a bag at a time when i start and then i usually reuse whats in the bin i may buy a new bag say every 2 seasons. LOL i love to recycle, besides the dirt is healthy after sitting again in there. Everything starts breaking down again and then is nice and reay when i am needing it again.
FullDuplex
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sounds to me that there is a little bit of the membrane left of the leafs.
It may need a little hand in removing it, but if you do be CAREFUL
you need to wet the little leaves first and remove the clear membrane that is over them with a needle
just be cautious and steady when you do this.
spaceinvaders
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hi mate, not too sure on what you want me to pick out, just having a look at her then and it does seem the next set are lookin okay...
harry larry
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I spent a little time looking into it on the net, found out pretty much everything I wanted to know! Ends up that the questions in my last post are an issue of aqueous solubility. Turns out aerating water can reaerate water to its limit. The limit changes with pressure and temp. The lower the temp/pressure the more O2 it can hold. Since the pressure of water doesnt change in soil, it's a non issue. Once water is aerated, it will not deaerate unless it is forced to due to a temp/pressure increase. FD, aerating water is brilliant! Cold heavily O2 saturated water will feed the soil and roots O2 as it warms!
Found the info on solubility on wikipedia, and found more info about air solubility in water here: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-solubility-water-d_639.html
Now I wonder what would be the best temp to water the plants at? To cold may shock plants/roots, and autos seem to have sensitive roots. Any idea's on what might work best? Or maybe a theory of when to water? At lights off to let the roots suck in as much cool heavily air saturated water as possible? Or maybe with the lights on to feed the soil as much air as possible?
Found the info on solubility on wikipedia, and found more info about air solubility in water here: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-solubility-water-d_639.html
Now I wonder what would be the best temp to water the plants at? To cold may shock plants/roots, and autos seem to have sensitive roots. Any idea's on what might work best? Or maybe a theory of when to water? At lights off to let the roots suck in as much cool heavily air saturated water as possible? Or maybe with the lights on to feed the soil as much air as possible?
FullDuplex
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I thought it was the two leaves that first apear when emerging.
Looks to me that you may have just a touch of dehydration
what is the humidity of the room they are in
Harry Bald Sack
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I wouldn't worry. This is my Easy Ryder that looked like just like yours.
While I am at it here are the rest of my girls. Dana the Double Diesel Ryder
Eliza Jane the Easy Ryder
Here is Tessa. She is responding very well to the LST.
3 days ago...
. Today...
spaceinvaders
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not too sure on the humidity but the temp is at a nice 20 degrees so it shouldnt be anything out of control,
they have been under a 400w hps since sprouting until today as my new 250w bulb has arrived so could it be to do with the heat coming off the 400 u think?
FullDuplex
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Thank you harry larry! This post is invaluable. This explains the growth spirts as well as the massive growth i am getting in small pots. I usually keep my water at about 70 degrees F and have had wonderful results. Lately the temps in the garage are a bit cooler and i have noticed a huge increase in speed of growth. So i would say that the water now is about 60 degrees so its holding more o2 now. I will tell you that the cold water doesn't have an bad effect yet but anything colder than 60 may i am not sure. I guess its time for me to experiment again
FullDuplex
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it very well could be the heat coming off that bulb. How far is it above the plant and are you cooling it at all?
spaceinvaders
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spaceinvaders
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made sure they wernt too close to the 400, near enough 1 foot, iv switched to the 250w today tho. I have 1 big oscilating fan in there blowing straight under the light on the babies and straight out the door at the front.
Im yet to fit my pc fans up to the intake and outake. Will do when the 400w comes back into action after a month.
FullDuplex
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i would say back that light off the seedlings. I have my 250hps at 20-22" from start. Then if they get taller than that i back it up. If not i drop it down to them. But i think the heat is the issue with the light that close.
Harry Bald Sack
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mossys
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teflondummy..
I haven't tried it myself...
but I was reading about it recently.
First thing to say is...I cannot see it doing them any harm..
(It takes about 4 days to hermie them from low light..)
so cheers for volunteering to Test it out for us...........
What I was reading was the 24 hour terpine fluctuation chart.
Morning/dawn..after a dark period has the strongest concentration of terps..
so you smell them more.
During the day the terps dissipate into the surounding air..
(to deter predators..they think..)
and..
Evening is the lowest level of terps.
Knowing that..
I would say that if you give your girls a 24 hour dark period..
the terps are gonna be at their Most concentrated..
so the girls are certain to Smell strongest.
Whether it improves strength is debatable
But..
if you can maintain the strong terps..
it will improve the taste of the smoke..
and as taste is a big part of the Experience..
it has to be worth giving it a go eh...?
I haven't tried it myself...
but I was reading about it recently.
First thing to say is...I cannot see it doing them any harm..
(It takes about 4 days to hermie them from low light..)
so cheers for volunteering to Test it out for us...........
What I was reading was the 24 hour terpine fluctuation chart.
Morning/dawn..after a dark period has the strongest concentration of terps..
so you smell them more.
During the day the terps dissipate into the surounding air..
(to deter predators..they think..)
and..
Evening is the lowest level of terps.
Knowing that..
I would say that if you give your girls a 24 hour dark period..
the terps are gonna be at their Most concentrated..
so the girls are certain to Smell strongest.
Whether it improves strength is debatable
But..
if you can maintain the strong terps..
it will improve the taste of the smoke..
and as taste is a big part of the Experience..
it has to be worth giving it a go eh...?
spaceinvaders
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ok then cheers man will do
spaceinvaders
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mossys
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JM..I grow my way for my conditions..
FullD grows his way for his..
During his grows he has developed his treatments to get the best from his girls on his conditions.
He grows girls in Tiny conditions that yield like big girls.
I haven't seen anyone that can beat him in a small pot over 8-10 weeks.
They are just solid bud lumps..on a small stick..
When I grew against him..same genetics in a small cup..he Whupped me...
The bud density he gets is incredible.
We are not trying to confuse you...
we just both use different methods......
John Mondello
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great stuff on the o2! thanks for all that compressed data!
mossy... i know you no try to confuse! lol
Just tryin to figure things out as to why... I always (scientific mind I guess) go for the why... and how.... want to tune in to max resolution if ya know what i mean... I likw very much combining multiple techniques to maximize peak performance...
FD thanks again on the info....
u2 mossy...
i also want to combine your soil stuff with his oxygen stuff and my fog stuff for a kiler combo... still developing this idea...
and u2 harry larry... Nice Homework!
mossy... i know you no try to confuse! lol
Just tryin to figure things out as to why... I always (scientific mind I guess) go for the why... and how.... want to tune in to max resolution if ya know what i mean... I likw very much combining multiple techniques to maximize peak performance...
FD thanks again on the info....
u2 mossy...
i also want to combine your soil stuff with his oxygen stuff and my fog stuff for a kiler combo... still developing this idea...
and u2 harry larry... Nice Homework!