The Art of The Auto

JM..another Weird but True...
Rosemary triggered a thought..checked the book...
rosemary Terps equivilent is pinene..which is in the Afghan line..

You could be symbiotic dosing too.....
(your Brain is looking for an afghan dom...told you......)

also eating my home-made salsa! super hot with jalapenos! ultra- vit c and nutrient does as well as arterial clean-out and bp reduction... metabloic boost as well as benefits of the capsaicin.

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I'm with you too..after talking to FullD...made
me remember some of the homework I had been forgetting.
Circulation boosters.

perhaps we should look at some grafting of the two?

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I tried creating a romance with many a canna and tomato..
but they were having none of it..

wow... this really makes a lot of sense with another school of thought for cancer-curing I've been following for quite some time... if it really is fungus based... then the H2O2 therapy would work as well as fungus hates oxygen (typically)

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Me too..and you can actually Feel the bicarb work after 5-7 days.
Well Recommended.

BTW..we have always been able to clone autos..
the question is..is it worth it..
Being honest..with the standard 12 inch pheno..probably Not..

But..if you want to practice..pick one of the taller/leggy girls..
and go straight after sex.
Pick the Flower off..remove all signs of sex..same as you would a tomato clone..
and she will root like any other clone.

FullD...did you keep any seed from those Purple chillies you grew earlier in the season...
(It Would have to be Purple..wouldn't it.....)
I may need a master class..

mossys said:

JM..another Weird but True...
Rosemary triggered a thought..checked the book...
rosemary Terps equivilent is pinene..which is in the Afghan line..

You could be symbiotic dosing too.....
(your Brain is looking for an afghan dom...told you......)


I'm with you too..after talking to FullD...made
me remember some of the homework I had been forgetting.
Circulation boosters.


I tried creating a romance with many a canna and tomato..
but they were having none of it..


Me too..and you can actually Feel the bicarb work after 5-7 days.
Well Recommended.

BTW..we have always been able to clone autos..
the question is..is it worth it..
Being honest..with the standard 12 inch pheno..probably Not..

But..if you want to practice..pick one of the taller/leggy girls..
and go straight after sex.
Pick the Flower off..remove all signs of sex..same as you would a tomato clone..
and she will root like any other clone.

FullD...did you keep any seed from those Purple chillies you grew earlier in the season...
(It Would have to be Purple..wouldn't it.....)
I may need a master class..

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ahhh! of course on the rosemary terps!

the vit c is also a circ booster btw
(should read the wiki on vit c.. very interesting)

on the grafting, i've read that tomato didn't work... which way did you try canna root X tomato cutting or Tomato root X canna cutting?

The only successful true grafting knowledge I'm aware of is with hops and cannabis... referred to as cannabacea. I did just recently hear from a loose affiliate that "grafting" onto a tree with any cannabis plant is possible by
1) drilling a hole (typ. 1" dia) into a (preferably fruit) tree
2) planting your "1 inch root plug" into this hole
3) cover with a grafting wax or other vapor barrier

this of course is technically not grafting... but I'm going to try it this coming season... just for fun if nothing else... but might help gorilla grows



now on the cloning... was unaware it was even possible.. though I've wanted to try it anyway.. lol
can i keep one of these in "veg" mode by continuos removal of the flowers for an extended period of time? virtually indefinetly?

hmm... with the ability to establish a solid root structure in 48 hours... this could revolutonize the auto world

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ahhh! of course on the rosemary terps!

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You don't like strong lemon with the rosemary do you..?

this of course is technically not grafting... but I'm going to try it this coming season... just for fun if nothing else... but might help gorilla grows

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Great..I will look forward to watching That.
Nothing like a live experiment.

now on the cloning... was unaware it was even possible.. though I've wanted to try it anyway.. lol
can i keep one of these in "veg" mode by continuos removal of the flowers for an extended period of time? virtually indefinetly?

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Yup..you have to be careful of the top bud though..don't damage the grow tip.
It is easier with males..easier to get the sex out clean.

See the white girl hydrolenny had..they are best Frame to clone..
because you have more room to remove the sex.
The really tufty/over-stuffed girls are Hard.
But..
practise makes perfect.

Yeah m8..thanks for the link..been there...everybody should go there..

Do you have a thermometer in the house...?

mossys said:

Well...I'm gonna tell you this...but I cannot quite believe it myself..and I won't believe it until I have repeated it under more control conditions
BUT..

I tried the mango yesterday..and it slammed me..but not in a good way..it seemed to act as a THC anti-venom...

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whoa whoa what the hell happened? This is nothing like what lady D felt.
I can say that i have the same thing going on as John. I ate one and then
had a smoke run and i felt nothing, either way kinda shocked me to be honest

But this does not explain what happened to you on that run. Like you siad
its almost as if it had an anti effect on you. Completly wiping out the levels you had built up. And im really shocked the DC isnt getting you back to where you need to be

It HAD to be the mango i am sure that there weren't to many other variables
going on that could have caused this. I think it could have been either a bad Mango, OR you may have found a new allergy. They say every 7 years the immune system changes, things you used to eat/like could become your worst enemy.
I had this happen in a good way. As a child i was extremely allergic to Poison Ivy. If the wind blew i could catch it and it was over couldn't see, breathe, or eat as the swelling would be horrible. Then one summer my family moved to a more rural area, we began cleaning the area for the new home, got into some ivy and panicked. It wasn't till th next day when i saw my brother covered and itching and me to my surprise had nothing. I couldn't believe it honestly, tried rubbing some on
me and still no irritation to the skin. Been that way ever since

So it could be a couple things, but IF it was the mango i dont think you should do another test.....

You don't like strong lemon with the rosemary do you..?

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actually, I might try that!

sounds like a great med cross to me

mossys said:

Do you have a thermometer in the house...?

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yup... holding 87 -89 in the chamber... as I'm enriching CO2 via ventless propane heater and want maximum effectiveness.

mossys said:

I still feel cr*p now..and that is through my normal pain-killers.

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I hope you get to feeling better my friend id hate to see you go down hard form this.

FullD..bit of perspective...
Look into the pot..she is sending roots up to the surface

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Why thank you for that and she is quite tall and hearty LOVE her

Now about this root thing going on there. If the roots are coming out of the top as well as the bottom you think that this thing would have sexed by now. Or at least started giving off the scent that it is ready to start showing. Comes back to the theory of "once roots hit bottom time to show my fun parts ."

I say if you get a female there i would transplant as well as she may have something special for you.

Look at the difference is stature..look at the length of those leaf stems...
you know Who that is..don't ya...

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I do I do

overhead...
I Think it is just Magic that two so geneticlly Different phenos can be pulled from 1 cross.

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Indeed it is amazing, take a look back at my original JEM she was branchy had nice
crown bud, and who could forget the saw tooth pheno she had. Then there was the JEM i just took down who was no branching and very JEM dom. Both came from the same seed pack but two totally different everything. The only think that is the same is the smell on her

damn... didn't realize you cant upload video direct... oh well had a cool time laps of it...

mossys said:

FullD...did you keep any seed from those Purple chillies you grew earlier in the season...
(It Would have to be Purple..wouldn't it.....)
I may need a master class..

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Indeed it had to be purple
and yeah i have some seed stock from the purple ones
as well as the Habinaro's, Tabasco's, White Lightning, and the Peter Peppers (ill get a pic)
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Happy Turkey day to all my Friends here. Hope you all have a good one eat a ton of food and smoke a fattie to make all go easy !!

I too have a seed stock on purple peppers... they are quite pretty and tastynas well.. really liven up the color on the table!
it WOULD have to be purple... lol

and happy turkey day to u and to all as well!

Whew! That took a while. I just caught up on the 12 pages I've missed over the last few days. First of all, I want to say Happy Thanksgiving and I hope everyone has some quality time with their families today. HBC my Sagamatha Star Ryder seems to be doing fine. I have her in a 3 gallon pot and she is 10 days from germ, so I'm in that period where the root is finding the bottom and getting ready to explode in growth. I should know the sex in about 10 days, but I feel confident and have been giving her all the good vibes I can. Will let you know as soon as I see something.

43Hitman said:

Whew! That took a while. I just caught up on the 12 pages I've missed over the last few days. First of all, I want to say Happy Thanksgiving and I hope everyone has some quality time with their families today. HBC my Sagamatha Star Ryder seems to be doing fine. I have her in a 3 gallon pot and she is 10 days from germ, so I'm in that period where the root is finding the bottom and getting ready to explode in growth. I should know the sex in about 10 days, but I feel confident and have been giving her all the good vibes I can. Will let you know as soon as I see something.

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I know i feel ya i went to bed and it was on 111 and this morning its was at 113 i couldn't believe it.
The way that this thread grows is amazing. Hope you get to enjoy some time too as well as eat some good food !

Glad to hear that star ryder is doing good cant wait to see some pics of her

I'll do what I can to get some pics of her up later on today/tonight. I also want to show you the difference in pot size between two plants of the same strain. Its not even close bro, not even close. I'll prolly double my yield.

All this talk about chilli's had me dig through some pics.
IF i think you mean what you mean by masters class mossy
i think i have the lab to do my testing in

Here are a few from the past that ive done
My first test in the cab back in the day

Jalapeños - Indoor 5gal buckets





Hot Pepper Mix and some Bell peppers



Purple Chilli's

Dude, I have some purple chillies ready to go into my Aerogarden that look just like those(140,000-160,000 scoville unit). I'm getting ready to do up some chili.

43Hitman said:

Dude, I have some purple chillies ready to go into my Aerogarden that look just like those(140,000-160,000 scoville unit). I'm getting ready to do up some chili.

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There a lot hotter than what they look like my fried LOL. They'll add flair to any dish

43Hitman said:

Whew! That took a while. I just caught up on the 12 pages I've missed over the last few days. First of all, I want to say Happy Thanksgiving and I hope everyone has some quality time with their families today. HBC my Sagamatha Star Ryder seems to be doing fine. I have her in a 3 gallon pot and she is 10 days from germ, so I'm in that period where the root is finding the bottom and getting ready to explode in growth. I should know the sex in about 10 days, but I feel confident and have been giving her all the good vibes I can. Will let you know as soon as I see something.

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Good deal bro, Good to hear that those SR's are digging your vibes. Hopefully in about 4 weeks we will both both be very happy customers.

Thanks for the well wishes for a happy Thanksgiving everyone I hope you all enjoy the day also. I know I will. If I don't fall asleep before we eat. I had been up all night smoking a turkey in the back yard and I am still at it. I just came inside for a little smoke break.

ha! I'll hav to look back through my archives as well...



from an aero unit i designed in autocad and built

very nice John
BUT i think you need to break that out for some autos
your plants would be HUGE in a system like that

was that a full flow system?

I'd agree but sadly had to diss-mantle the system when i moved from the big ol farm house.... I'll build a better one now with the ultrasonic fogger... it was a timed mist system.. (12 v surlflow pump with disc filter) and had an automatic weekly flush ... was direct tied to the main water supply for the house... solenoids controlled water flow for flush or recirc... micro sprinklers hidden inside the root tubes with and air-through-water inducted filtration system.

oh yeah... unit produced 56,000 lumens in a 21.333 sq ft grow space for a total of 2625 lumens /sq ft (uniform due to 8' fluros)