The Art of The Auto

Bighill said:

Going to be great eh!!! Chappers?
I told him i'll buy a big ol bag of those seeds when he's ready. HA i can't wait for these, one release i have marked down for sure. I didn't get a chance to buy the foot before wally got the pinch. For me this is a long time comming.

Talking to those involved it should be good.. Plat them with some nettles and you are 100% stealth.. I love all the crazy autos comming out, it's like christmass.. wait it almost is.. hehe



J


Some tunes for the 80s crowd. Anyone else think gavin/santana totaly bombed this, last night on the AMW?


[video=youtube;alFlaMC2b3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFlaMC2b3c[/video]

Bh.

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well shit! thats a strain I can't wait to try! cool shit! I like ur idea about nettles... though they blend pretty well with themn to begin with... this guy would issappear! thank god for GPS!

Bighill said:

I will voutch for this also.

Bh.

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I'll back that up as well... there's two parts of a plants growth and it needs both to be truly healthy... its unnatural to get 24/0

FullDuplex said:

I have been mulling this one over a time or two.
I have seen grows with them and have seen the color spec that they acclaim
But i'm still not sure, i have seen guys go MH all the way and do well
so it has to do some good if there is red spec in there too.

I have grown these two ways, MH then switch to HPS
and then i have ran hps all the way through
the MH/hps grow had nice branching
the HPS run was nothing but bud sticks lol
and dense at that if i can get that in one bulb
id be tickled, thing is i dont want to spend the money till i have too
Im bad about that


Couldn't agree with this more, its funny i can almost smell when the soil is right
Call me crazy but its distinct.



Indeed and i love the fact that there is little to no ash after your done

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Thanks for the MH HPS info there.. and I also can smell when the soil is right and it is always evident in my produce!

J

BTW guys... if you wanna see a good comparison of the difference just between bulb manufacturers... this gouy did a great comparison...


https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/355137-think-your-bulb-doesnt-matter.html

Well i think i am goign to give the CMH bulbs a try. They are suposed to run cooler than a HPS. They put out more usable light than a HPS. I also like the colour spectrum charts, covers a wider spectrum than hps and mh together. There is a guy on RIU who says the uv they can put off gave him a "burn" on his eyes, from exposure.

We'll see i supose, i am going to get 2 of those sun system enclosed 250hps hood/ballast set ups. Then chuck in some CMH bulbs.
Like you, when money allows.
Been a tought year for us construction folks, so i'm behinde in construction of my new indoor grow space.

Bh.

Bighill said:

Well i think i am goign to give the CMH bulbs a try. They are suposed to run cooler than a HPS. They put out more usable light than a HPS. I also like the colour spectrum charts, covers a wider spectrum than hps and mh together. There is a guy on RIU who says the uv they can put off gave him a "burn" on his eyes, from exposure.

We'll see i supose, i am going to get 2 of those sun system enclosed 250hps hood/ballast set ups. Then chuck in some CMH bulbs.
Like you, when money allows.
Been a tought year for us construction folks, so i'm behinde in construction of my new indoor grow space.

Bh.

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word up on that... im definetly going to go to that as soon as money allows...

it HAS been a tough year... I do security camera installs and computer consulting and have a small organic farm... and its been tough to make ends meet even with all that.... my only saving grace this year was my ladies... they are powerful... both in beauty and medicine as well as financially!

heres my AFs at 11 days


I am currently supplementing UVB+ some A with 2 26w CFL style Reptisun UVB 10.0's Claims 20 inches of penetration.... I have to say, these are the happiest looking girls I've done indoor ever... I think they really like the MH and the UVB... and of course all the other love including some CO2 supples

J

John Mondello - nice ladys man !!!! real healthy ! keep it up !!

peace, good luck

thanks man! I will!
J

zemanel said:

Hey guys, loving the info around here, the SmokeyDeHerb question about CFL was one of my concerns too. Thx to Smokey for putting the question and FullD, k2 for the answers , really helped the planning stuff.

Just a quick question, what do u guys think about Drip Irrigation for a small grow???
Sometimes i have to leave like 3 to 7 days and would be nice keep watering the babies, but i'm afraid of flooding the whole thing running it 24/7.
Cheers and sorry the dummy question

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I got a blumat tropf drip watering system, it dosnt need pumps just a res minimum 3ft above your pots. you set the probes so when your medium gets to the dry point you want it waters untill wet again. I havnt set it up yet but if you search for bumat tropf you will find plenty of information

ZZZZzzzip-iddy-do-da....

ZZZZzzzip-iddy..ayyy..

My oh my what a Wonderful Day....

(down to my last ounce of it...you won't have to
suffer the singing much longer.......)







But..enjoy the silence while it lasts...
these are my back-up stock....

FullD...31 cms across..15 cms high..
(just over 12ins x 6ins..)
I was right about the head-spread x height ratio.

SmokeyDH..on the 16/8...
I thought that they had told you to change to that when you said it wasn't auto..
which would have been really Strange..
But..
in the context of the full post..directed at AF's..
it makes more sense.

I'm majority outdoor growing..
so my girls Never get any where near the prescribed "Lighted Grow" hours..
and they still grow okay.

dargo..that kinda system will make your job a bit easier next season..

dargo said:

I got a blumat tropf drip watering system, it dosnt need pumps just a res minimum 3ft above your pots. you set the probes so when your medium gets to the dry point you want it waters untill wet again. I havnt set it up yet but if you search for bumat tropf you will find plenty of information

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dargo thanks for the tip on that! gonna go check it... been thinkin in that direction myself but didn't want to re-invent the wheel too many times... lol

J

mossys said:

ZZZZzzzip-iddy-do-da....

ZZZZzzzip-iddy..ayyy..

My oh my what a Wonderful Day....

(down to my last ounce of it...you won't have to
suffer the singing much longer.......)

leaf:

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love a happy grower personally! been about that mood level myself lately! lol

dargo said:

I got a blumat tropf drip watering system, it dosnt need pumps just a res minimum 3ft above your pots. you set the probes so when your medium gets to the dry point you want it waters untill wet again. I havnt set it up yet but if you search for bumat tropf you will find plenty of information

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nice info Dargo, i have been looking for something like this, i may need it for backup as caretaker is not always available. And if i have this system i may be able to actually convince him to travel with me from time to time.

mossys said:

ZZZZzzzip-iddy-do-da....

ZZZZzzzip-iddy..ayyy..

My oh my what a Wonderful Day....

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I see that you are in a rather good mood this morning
I my self am too, see direct reflection of the bud we smoke

FullD...31 cms across..15 cms high..
(just over 12ins x 6ins..)
I was right about the head-spread x height ratio.

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Ah i see, and you were right. The thing that i want to know how old it is at that height. You never cease to amaze me with those multi pot grows. It goes against everything that i have ever been taught. Thing is that its a great way to grow these guys and you have proven that time after time I guess an old dog can learn new tricks. After this single run its gonna be nothing but multi pots for me too. I just wish i could find some planters like you have there.

and they still grow okay.

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So modest Mossy, they do way better than okay

love a happy grower personally! been about that mood level myself lately! lol

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Aye..I noticed it the other day...
BUT..
You didn't say What you were smoking..

current theme music: Stevie Ray Vaughn : Traffic Jam
Mood: Very High!

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BTW..did you just make that up..or is someone using that name..

mhhhhmmm thinking the name might be coming from auto-erotic..

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because Auto Erotics have a big pull on me for a brand name.

I LIKE IT.

I see that you are in a rather good mood this morning
I my self am too, see direct reflection of the bud we smoke

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Good to see my M8..

After this single run its gonna be nothing but multi pots for me too. I just wish i could find some planters like you have there.

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Gotta say..I find it better to grow mulit-pots in square containers..
But..
I ran on 20-40 ltr round pots for many a year.

I Think it is because I can get better plant spacing in the squares.
I got the first one as a gift from my m8 at the head-shop and bought more.
They are called para cannabis..
but that only means "for cannabis".

The head shop guy was using them for Hydro...with a blank/no holes one on the bottom...
he says they are easier to cut for your pipes to go through..they are polystyrene.

I also have small..8 inch pots..that have a 12 inch drop on them..

They are good too...small pot..lot of drop..
did make me wonder if they had been made with AF's in mind...

Ah i see, and you were right. The thing that i want to know how old it is at that height

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Ah FullD...I set them away on Halloween..
BUT..
after 5 days of seeing nothing germ..
I put them in the grow cupboard with lights..to warm the compo...
(my grow cupboard is outdoor..)
so it was about day 8 before I saw them breaking soil.
so they are 15-16 days old.


Can you spot which are the f3's...?

and since we are all talking music..
I was toking DC and listening to Amy Winehouse the other day..
and I thought wow..
she just sings like a Duuurrty Afghan...
smoking it and listening to it..

mossys said:

I Think it is because I can get better plant spacing in the squares.
I got the first one as a gift from my m8 at the head-shop and bought more.
They are called para cannabis..
but that only means "for cannabis".

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Thanks for the info my friend. I am thinking about getting some
thick coolers like that that are square. The local gas station carries them
they have nice drop to looks like it would be good for 5 or 6 plants if not more
i may get one knock some holes in it and give it a try.

I think this is the best way to get a good peek at what i have from this seed
as well as work on the other on i have that are semi-auto.

Ah FullD...I set them away on Halloween..
BUT..
after 5 days of seeing nothing germ..
I put them in the grow cupboard with lights..to warm the compo...
(my grow cupboard is outdoor..)
so it was about day 8 before I saw them breaking soil.
so they are 15-16 days old.

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Seems to me that they needed a little warmth to get going
i changed germ methods this time and tried something new
i started them in a cup as normal and then placed plastic bags over the cups
worked like a charm

My cab isnt out side but in the garage and there is no heat source out there so its cooler that the rest of the house but not as cold as out side. thats why i bumped to 20/4 to keep heat in the box for them. Temps are still good right now but itll be a test on them to see how they handle the cooler temp through the winter.

There doing really well for that age nice and lush, the size is fantastic and so is their color. They look lovely my friend i really think that the vinegar is working.
Again bloom will tell al

Can you spot which are the f3's...?

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I wanna say that its the pot with out the fert bottle
they look more uniformed than the others at least to my eye

she just sings like a Duuurrty Afghan...
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Lol i can see this

dargo said:

I got a blumat tropf drip watering system, it dosnt need pumps just a res minimum 3ft above your pots. you set the probes so when your medium gets to the dry point you want it waters untill wet again. I havnt set it up yet but if you search for bumat tropf you will find plenty of information

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The Blumat tropf is really nice and the info on his webpage is great. Thx for the help m8.
Cheers

I wanna say that its the pot with out the fert bottle
they look more uniformed than the others at least to my eye

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Ha ha..spot on my m8.

I am thinking about getting some
thick coolers like that that are square

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Proper coolers..?
coz they should insulate the roots..since you have a cold problem.

I Use my light to keep my grow Warm too.

mossys said:

Ha ha..spot on my m8.

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Proper coolers..?
coz they should insulate the roots..since you have a cold problem.

I Use my light to keep my grow Warm too.

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Yep thats what i am going to use.

something along the lines like this



EDIT: Congrats on the being the 1000 poster Mossy


1000 posts 22,222 views at this point

thanks again to all of you who are here every day and contributing to the thread
it has made it what it is so far. Keep the info coming guys

thats a great idea! like a mini disposable cooler...hmmmmm

Absolutely spot on my m8..
get your dimentions and I 'll check them off against mine..
they Look almost exactly the same.

EDIT: Congrats on the being the 1000 poster Mossy

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maaannnn..I missed it... ... ...

well done m8..smoke a fattie with you to celebrate