The 12-12 From Seed Thread
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backyardagain
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for all you 12-12 what make it better then a short veg then a flip just curious.
hsfkush
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Inevitably, you'll get more bud if you veg your plants, regardless of how many weeks you veg for. 12/12 from seed is just like doing auto's, meaning it's quicker than standard , 1 simple light cycle and it will naturally produce less.
Although, some have done some spectacular grows which would rival a 1 month vegged plant for yield, especially Del.
I also think I read somewhere that someone got just under 7 ounces from a single plant using 12/12 from seed. I'd assume this was just 1 plant under a high wattage bulb though, as I think it's near impossible to do that with less than 400w's of MH/HPS. But then again, you tend to read a lot of bullshit on the internet, so it probably falls into that category. Most people yield around 1-2oz per plant.
backyardagain
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yeah i mean i have a 4x4 set up and was thinking of setting back up my 2x2 for testers possibly breeding project and maybe trying new techniques out to see what will maximize quality and quantity
thanks for the quick reply back also
thanks for the quick reply back also
hsfkush
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No worries, I'm sure there are more technical differences too, like the way the plant grows for me is a little different, slower than usual growth before showing sex, slimmer plants meaning the branching isn't as wide as a vegged plant. But that's for me anyway, could be different for many others.
munchies7
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well i cant say the same thing about 12/12 and vegging.. i think if u veg 3-4 weeks ui have same results if u just 12/12 in a 8-10 Liter pot ur plants not only depend of photosynthesis but also their space to grow, just like any other thing, exmpl if u raise a cocodrile in a 1x1 space it wont grow it will remain small.. if u jgive him a lake he will be 3 meters tall 
if u want perpetual harvest 20-28 grams per plant go 1 litter pot although i have to water them daily it keeps me busy i dont have much to do
if u want perpetual harvest 20-28 grams per plant go 1 litter pot although i have to water them daily it keeps me busy i dont have much to do
zVice
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fuck i wish i didn't have much to do and needed something to keep me busy
well i cant say the same thing about 12/12 and vegging.. i think if u veg 3-4 weeks ui have same results if u just 12/12 in a 8-10 Liter pot ur plants not only depend of photosynthesis but also their space to grow, just like any other thing, exmpl if u raise a cocodrile in a 1x1 space it wont grow it will remain small.. if u jgive him a lake he will be 3 meters tall
thatsmessedup
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Thats very interesting if true.
lowblower
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12/12 is less damaging to the environment, less expensive and less bait if your worried about temperatures in winter (heat signals), or electricity companies bein nosey. A sativa will stretch nicely too. Plus you can go perpetual 12/12 FS so its good if you only got one room. I think the best thing though, would be to keep a seperate 100w veg room to maintan clones in if possible 
supchaka
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While it sounds good...
5.1.6 Do caimans only grow to the size of their enclosures?
No, this is a myth. Perhaps it originated through unscrupulous dealers looking for ways to convince potential owners to part with their cash, but regardless of its origin it is not true. All crocodilians grow to be very large animals compared to many other reptile species. Even dwarf caimans, at 4 feet long, are a fair sized animal to try and house properly. The idea that a caiman can be kept small if the cage is also kept small is a seriously flawed idea. Even in a small cage, a caiman will continue to grow until its movement is eventually hindered. Continued growth will result in deformed limbs, snout and tail as the body tries to increase in size naturally. This is extremely cruel and results in a stunted and unhealthy caiman with a seriously compromised lifespan. The caiman must be provided with enough space for comfortable movement on both land and in water, or you should perhaps consider a stuffed crocodile toy instead.
5.1.6 Do caimans only grow to the size of their enclosures?
No, this is a myth. Perhaps it originated through unscrupulous dealers looking for ways to convince potential owners to part with their cash, but regardless of its origin it is not true. All crocodilians grow to be very large animals compared to many other reptile species. Even dwarf caimans, at 4 feet long, are a fair sized animal to try and house properly. The idea that a caiman can be kept small if the cage is also kept small is a seriously flawed idea. Even in a small cage, a caiman will continue to grow until its movement is eventually hindered. Continued growth will result in deformed limbs, snout and tail as the body tries to increase in size naturally. This is extremely cruel and results in a stunted and unhealthy caiman with a seriously compromised lifespan. The caiman must be provided with enough space for comfortable movement on both land and in water, or you should perhaps consider a stuffed crocodile toy instead.
munchies7
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Heres a little of my 12/12 thats 1 week max ago one of them looking weoird like rot root or lyk overwatering keeping an eye on her but i think shell make it ofc the otheres looking ok some kinda yellow going on coz truly i was a lil buzy and lazy about feeding but now im feeding them the way they should and they looking better posting pics on a week this well be like 2to 3 days in... they took 20 days to flower high temps i think thats what caused fast fl;oweriong not complaining tho, i want fast fast i have 600w limate only using 400w on my closet tallest in tht time 14 inches smallest 11 and i think they were not all flowering
BTW this will be an organic grow if i go better i switch even tho this is my 4th grow and i think i would get better anyway...
BTW this will be an organic grow if i go better i switch even tho this is my 4th grow and i think i would get better anyway...
munchies7
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ofc its true... lol
munchies7
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no men ive seen in on tv and on my school they had some and they were very small my friend took one of their babys and put it on a pool XD it grew small too.. its not a myth it is true just as true as ants were bigger oldays coz of ho2 its pretty much the same if u let ur body stretch it will to the maximium just lyk if u go to the gym and not, u go to the gym u gain muscle u dont or u get fat or u wont nail squat , same sh1t goes to natural life, grow a cat indoors and a cat outdoors u will see the diference
hsfkush
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Well, it's not all down to the amount of space they're put in. It's also down to the amount of nutrition they get. And with plants, the strength of the light they're given.
You can put a Cannabis plant in the UK during the summer time and I bet it doesn't get as big as a plant in California. I grew a Super Silver Haze outdoors and it got to around 5ft tall. I will guarantee that a SSH in Cali will exceed 11ft tall.
And besides, you can still get an 11ft tall plant in a 5ft space, just use extreme LST, so your argument becomes invalid then.
backyardagain
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hell my 125w cfl comes tomorrow ill just build a tiny clone chamber then do 12-12 from seed till i find something i want to keep around.
munchies7
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yueah my arguments became invalit if u do lst on outdoors it will become bigger ur jsut trying to said diffrent things about summoner on one side and wintoer on the other im saying INDOORS AGAINST OUTDOORS not outdoors summer/winter time thats a WHOLE difernet thing Different time of growing VEG/FLOWRING i would jsut say hey ima veg with floro 300 feet away and hps 20 inches with coooltube.. zzz
hsfkush
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Hmmm... May I ask if you're drunk? I don't mean to offend but I don't understand much of that.
And I would assume that given you confused "summer" with "summoner" I guess you play League of Legends or something?