The 10x10 is built, help final perpetual layout

BigGreenHulk

BigGreenHulk

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Hey there fellow stoners and thinkers! I am looking for some creative help in getting the recently finished room set for a perpetual future.
The room itself is 10.4"x10.4" all lines are 20amp and rockwool insulated with purple gypsum board. All cracks and "leaks" have been sealed for airtight CO2 control. There is a dual inlet/outlet ac for temp control (Whynter ARC-14S 14,000 BTU Dual Hose Portable Air Conditioner, Dehumidifier, Fan with Activated Carbon Filter Plus Storage Bag for Rooms up to 500 sq ft).
I have attached pics of the completed build, and am looking for creative ideas to maximize my space.. like a tiny home for growing lol. I currently use an hlg 600r and a spydr fluence and am looking to upgrade to the Photontek 100w co2 as the numbers are blowing my mind as well as the reviews...
Currently a 6" rockwool cube fan and previous current culture rdwc user but I do have a sump pump spot that I can use for drain to waste as well as a reverse osmosis line ran to the room to fill any water reservoir I may need as I have a 40 gallon one if its in any ones design. Co2 monitors and blue lab monitor.. i pretty much have it all and if I need to I can get it.

Looking forward to some POSITIVE input from all the great thinkers on the board here, thank you
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Hiphophippo

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Never mind I just read it lol looks great I don’t run co2 so my inputs not so useful here but you got the space to do something nice i would hit bk87 he’s got a real nice set up to mimic
 
bk78

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The only issue I see is your veg room is attached to flower? So you won’t be able to look/do work on vegging plants at all unless your flower light is on?

Also if it’s as sealed as you say that AC won’t cut it I don’t think with a dehumidifier running
 
BigGreenHulk

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Hey thank you for all for the input,

Def a great thought to move the veg area to the door and make it a passthrough for the reasons you all stated above. It would have been one of those after thoughts where I would have been kicking myself for sure - Much appreciated

I will frame that up this week and post some updated pics - thank you all for the great start and brainstorming
 
Herb & Suds

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BigGreenHulk said:
Hey thank you for all for the input,

Def a great thought to move the veg area to the door and make it a passthrough for the reasons you all stated above. It would have been one of those after thoughts where I would have been kicking myself for sure - Much appreciated

I will frame that up this week and post some updated pics - thank you all for the great start and brainstorming
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Always pleased when others benefit from my mistakes :lol:
 
go go kid

go go kid

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make sure you shower and change clothes b4 entering either, you dont want outside bugs entering either of your rooms.
 
potpimp

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BigGreenHulk said:
Hey there fellow stoners and thinkers! I am looking for some creative help in getting the recently finished room set for a perpetual future.
The room itself is 10.4"x10.4" all lines are 20amp and rockwool insulated with purple gypsum board. All cracks and "leaks" have been sealed for airtight CO2 control. There is a dual inlet/outlet ac for temp control (Whynter ARC-14S 14,000 BTU Dual Hose Portable Air Conditioner, Dehumidifier, Fan with Activated Carbon Filter Plus Storage Bag for Rooms up to 500 sq ft).
I have attached pics of the completed build, and am looking for creative ideas to maximize my space.. like a tiny home for growing lol. I currently use an hlg 600r and a spydr fluence and am looking to upgrade to the Photontek 100w co2 as the numbers are blowing my mind as well as the reviews...
Currently a 6" rockwool cube fan and previous current culture rdwc user but I do have a sump pump spot that I can use for drain to waste as well as a reverse osmosis line ran to the room to fill any water reservoir I may need as I have a 40 gallon one if its in any ones design. Co2 monitors and blue lab monitor.. i pretty much have it all and if I need to I can get it.

Looking forward to some POSITIVE input from all the great thinkers on the board here, thank you
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Dang man, that's so nice I think I'd just put my recliner in there, maybe a couple pieces of art on the walls, and fit in the plants. ...oh, and a stereo system.
 
xox

xox

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cool room. i think if your planning to use co2 youll hafta ditch the a/c with the hoses going outside youll just be losing gas to outside, maby think about investing in a minisplit i have a 2ton in a room thats 9x9 it worked well in the summer time i ran 4x 600 watt hps with it in the shape of an L. i think you could easily slap 4 lights in there and a small 4x4 tent or something to mess around with clones. should think about wiring up a 240v flip box as well.
 
BigGreenHulk

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xox said:
cool room. i think if your planning to use co2 you'll hafta ditch the a/c with the hoses going outside youll just be losing gas to outside, maby think about investing in a minisplit i have a 2ton in a room thats 9x9 it worked well in the summer time i ran 4x 600 watt hps with it in the shape of an L. i think you could easily slap 4 lights in there and a small 4x4 tent or something to mess around with clones. should think about wiring up a 240v flip box as well.
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Thanks, I plan on a mini in the future, but for now have the dual hose. It is basically a mini but uglier to my understanding lol. the hoses are just for cooling the inner parts and then the the condenser is pushing the air through the cold coils pushing the same air in and out.. while the hoses aren't too bad. I have stood outside with smoke and it vented it all in and out to my surprise with no smoke in the room inside.

But you are correct the mini will be the king this summer..
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thunderbayp2pat

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BigGreenHulk said:
Hey there fellow stoners and thinkers! I am looking for some creative help in getting the recently finished room set for a perpetual future.
The room itself is 10.4"x10.4" all lines are 20amp and rockwool insulated with purple gypsum board. All cracks and "leaks" have been sealed for airtight CO2 control. There is a dual inlet/outlet ac for temp control (Whynter ARC-14S 14,000 BTU Dual Hose Portable Air Conditioner, Dehumidifier, Fan with Activated Carbon Filter Plus Storage Bag for Rooms up to 500 sq ft).
I have attached pics of the completed build, and am looking for creative ideas to maximize my space.. like a tiny home for growing lol. I currently use an hlg 600r and a spydr fluence and am looking to upgrade to the Photontek 100w co2 as the numbers are blowing my mind as well as the reviews...
Currently a 6" rockwool cube fan and previous current culture rdwc user but I do have a sump pump spot that I can use for drain to waste as well as a reverse osmosis line ran to the room to fill any water reservoir I may need as I have a 40 gallon one if its in any ones design. Co2 monitors and blue lab monitor.. i pretty much have it all and if I need to I can get it.

Looking forward to some POSITIVE input from all the great thinkers on the board here, thank you
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This is my 10x10 sealed room…. Still quite a bit of work to do….
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thunderbayp2pat

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BigGreenHulk said:
looks great, very inspirational! Have you thought of light rails for zero hot spots etc?


BTW you posted a few too many pics fyi!!!!
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Thanks brother, :) Lol ohhh I haven’t posted in ages…. Hahaha my daughter passed out hahahaha I think I fixed that. I’m running a mini split but still there are some hot spots brightness wise not so much heat wise. I originally wanted to go with light rails… cost etc I just mounted static the lights are Spectrumking sk602s
 
MidnightSun72

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Nice room!

If the room is sealed you will have to add CO2 not really optional. The portable ACs use a LOT of watts for the amount of cooling provided. I would make a mini split my top priority for next modifications. Portables also waste a bunch of floor space which drives me crazy. I have nothing on the floor but my rolling tables for my plants. Also portable ACs (I know you have the two hose) will still transport CO2 out of your room. You have to keep this in mind as it might increase your CO2 expenditure. I would use a tank for CO2 since a burner will add more BTU and your AC is already kind of near capacity already

I looked up the lights You are running (spectrum king sk602) and they claim to have the same intensity/coverage as a 1000W DE HPS. But this is not really the case. They are the same efficiency and 400 less watts And put out about 60% of the light a DE fixture does. Not a big deal but just something to keep in mind.

If you buy new lights you don't have to do it all at once just add a couple new ones in with the old ones and then replace the old ones entirely down the road once room is more dialled for the grow style you want.

Another thing is your fans. I only see two but I think you will need more for proper air movement through your canopy. Dead air can create fungus/mold problems pretty quickly.

a cheap option for cooling if you don't want a mini could be two smaller window AC units. They are more efficient/reliable and better for growing than those portable units at least in my experience. .
 
thunderbayp2pat

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MidnightSun72 said:
Nice room!

If the room is sealed you will have to add CO2 not really optional. The portable ACs use a LOT of watts for the amount of cooling provided. I would make a mini split my top priority for next modifications. Portables also waste a bunch of floor space which drives me crazy. I have nothing on the floor but my rolling tables for my plants. Also portable ACs (I know you have the two hose) will still transport CO2 out of your room. You have to keep this in mind as it might increase your CO2 expenditure. I would use a tank for CO2 since a burner will add more BTU and your AC is already kind of near capacity already

I looked up the lights You are running (spectrum king sk602) and they claim to have the same intensity/coverage as a 1000W DE HPS. But this is not really the case. They are the same efficiency and 400 less watts And put out about 60% of the light a DE fixture does. Not a big deal but just something to keep in mind.

If you buy new lights you don't have to do it all at once just add a couple new ones in with the old ones and then replace the old ones entirely down the road once room is more dialled for the grow style you want.

Another thing is your fans. I only see two but I think you will need more for proper air movement through your canopy. Dead air can create fungus/mold problems pretty quickly.

a cheap option for cooling if you don't want a mini could be two smaller window AC units. They are more efficient/reliable and better for growing than those portable units at least in my experience. .
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The room is sealed and water tight to a degree the portable unit is just a supplemental 30 pint dehumidifier, I’m running a Mini split A/C also 2 or 3 ton and the fans are four total thats two in either direction and of course running a Titan Saturn for my Co2 release and only when necessary an 8 inch in line out for darkness cycles to avoid dumping the Co2 the Spectrumking lights alone cost me about $8k they work amazing I pulled 7.5 lbs for my first harvest in this new space. My goal was 10lbs but this was my first run in this space, I’ve pulled 3 per light with these fixtures before. Currently this grow once I have pheno hunted and filled the sites with the desired cuts, I’m shooting for my 10lb yield again.
 
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