THC OIl/Liquid for E-Pen/CIG

Wait what? He melts the hash oil off your bud? I've done this just messing around, if you put a lighter above a bud on some foil, amber oil will pool at the bottom... why would you do this on a large scale with good bud?

Or did I completely misunderstand

qwizoking said:

Wait what? He melts the hash oil off your bud? I've done this just messing around, if you put a lighter above a bud on some foil, amber oil will pool at the bottom... why would you do this on a large scale with good bud?

Or did I completely misunderstand

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He uses something a bit more than a lighter and foil...lol...and I like to vape...Lol...not talking any large scale really and it's excellent for stealthy smoking

And you prefer this melting off the bud technique to a solvent extraction? Why?

qwizoking said:

And you prefer this melting off the bud technique to a solvent extraction? Why?

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Do I? I said I like to vape...the method of acquiring oil is left up to another party as I don't know how to do this myself (yet)
It serves it's purpose...for the time being. My point was that there are better tanks out there than the disposable ecigs and they can handle the oils better...

The trick is finding a carto/clearomizer that can handle the liquid. Most tinctures I've found at dispensaries have some alcohol in them, which I wasn't cool with, so I started trying to make my own, with some success.

I purchase a pg/vg blend, usually 35/65 respectively, and simply melt BHO into it, while it's in a warm water bath. When it gets warm enough, I cap it, and shake the living hell out of it to get it to mix well. I'll repeat a couple times (warm then shake) until it seems like a good solution has formed.

Then I'll let it sit for about 24 hours. In my case, I can tell if I need to increase or decrease (dilute) the solution based on how much of the extrace has come out of the solution and created a ring where the meniscus (top level of the solution) has been resting during the 24 hour resting period. This waiting period I prefer to let happen in a low-light or dark place, in my case a drawer, as I've heard it helps a bit (no confirmation on that though).

The BHO does naturally come out of solution at first, but repeated shaking, and allowing it to "steep" to some degree, help with the process in the long term.

I personally prefer Gentleman's brand tincture tanks, as they have a few more holes and burn the solution/juice well when given 4.2v. I've encountered zero build up or leakage. The only drawback I've found is that I can't quite dial up the potency to the point where I can take 3-5 hits and get medicated. At present, I have to kind of sit with it and take 10+ before feeling the medicine kick in.

Notes/comments/suggestions are always appreciated, but just wanted to share.

qwizoking said:

Wait what? He melts the hash oil off your bud? I've done this just messing around, if you put a lighter above a bud on some foil, amber oil will pool at the bottom... why would you do this on a large scale with good bud?

Or did I completely misunderstand

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whoa, really? that will happen??

what if you took an oz of nice bud, put them in a funnel... and heated it with a super hot hair dryer... or paint stripper. could you get liquid from the bottom?


I remember one time I make kief into a hash puck.. I heated it up and squeezed it in the vice. I was able to create 1 droplet of a liquid oil substance. not enough to recover though... but kinda cool knowing tha I squeezed kief so hard I made it "drip".

Yea man.. I mean I've never tried it like that lol. But you can most definitely melt or drip the oil off your bud.. I've never smoked it though, might try it some day...when I have more bud to waste

hmmm interesting. ive never thought of that... add it to the bucket list I guess!!

I've actually been talking to FD about this for the past month! It'd be a true solventless oil. It's basically the same concept as a desktop vaporizer, those create hash oil after many uses. I'm still trying to figure out the bits and pieces and would love to know more about it if you guys have more information!

Only info I can give is......don't try it
Similar to putting your bud in hot water ro let it float off and collect.. it heats up and degrades your oil, it won't be any good, might not be quite as nutty or toasted tasting as the resin coming out of a used vape but its gonna be very similar..and sedating if not just confusing

Damn that kinda sucks to hear lol.

getting our resin to that runny oily state alone just simply ruins it so hard.. so many flavors are lost, and new nasty ones are created...

someday, somehow.

for now, its straight heating coil dab pens for best real like hits......, or mixed thc oil with alcohol vg, or organic vegetable/coconut oil?

im still in love with my mix, oil/everclear/vg 65%/20%/15%

tastes great, and a few hits gets me there, on the slyyyyy.

In my opinion.....if I had the means a co2 would be best "natural" extraction. I would love to experiment with that but my wife would never approve said funding lol...now I realize that technically is a solvent but nothing harmful and literally impossible to under purge.... a true solvent less extraction I think best would be a fresh frozen dry sieve. But I've never tried it, just speculation.. the trichomes are sensitive and easy to fracture while the plant is resistant to bending or chipping... but what do I know lol

you can get /wax/oil... attachments for ecigs at almost any ecig store. you can pull the sponge/plastic air tube out of a regular cartomizer, and put bubble/wax/oil inside, if its burning a couple drops of pg, vg, or ejuice seem to help. ego and mod styles seem to work a bit better for me (true for ejuice as well). you can mix oil, wax, hash... with vg/pg/ or ejuice, pg seems to work a lot better. and use in regular ecig tanks. also, they make dry herb attachments for ecigs, but honestly they hold so little that they seem like a waste of time to me.
putting alcohol in an ecig, especially any form of denatured alcohol, is retarded. Denatured alchohol (anything thats not taxed as liquor) has methyl alchohol or other adulterants (poison) added to prevent ppl from drinking it. vg and pg are safe, as long as they are food grade. they are in tons of stuff that you probably already eat.
hth

good words 1itsme, but comparing the health concerns of vg/pg being vaporized to being eaten is a much different health concern..

most likely a better route over vaporizing everclear190/blend..

but, in all. i dont prefer to vape anything, and i settle with ganja..

vg/pg dont sound appetizing to me either..

i just want it to work! and be tasty, and as absolute/potent as possible... in juice form :]

I made it:
http://dispensaryweed.com/cannabis/topic/297321-e-cig-juice-vape-concentrates/

Def needs some refining. But it's possible

Hey Everyone,

I did a little experiment last night.

I bought an eCig (I'm quitting smoking cigarettes) and thought to myself, why not mix some wax with the juice.

After a little bit of research I found that a few people have tried it.

Here's what you need:
- Vape Pen
- Liquid Cartridge (You can buy this in most smoke shops)
- Some form of Concentrate (I used a lower grade wax that I made prior)
- E Juice (I used 0mg Nicotine)
- Mixing Chamber
- Patience

Here are some pictures and descriptions:


I used about 5ml of the Cig Juice for .8 grams of wax. Put both in the mixing container and shake. I put it in a warm bath to help aid this process. It definitely took some time and effort. I would shake then warm, shake then warm, etc.



After a little while it will be all mixed up. I transferred the contents to a better bottle (makes pouring easier). Assemble the unit and then enjoy.

I don't know if anyone has figured this out yet but all the "eJuice" is basically FOG JUICE for nightclub and haunted house fog machines. Fog Juice is nothing more that distilled water and one of 3 glycerins which all MUST be USP to be used in and around people. I have worked in clubs for 28 years and mix my own fog juice monthly and its simply distilled water and the glycerin from wal-mart. You can also pick up bottles of fog juice from any walmart during fall holidays or your local party shop. Fog juice is already premixed to the right consistency to smoke properly from eJuice pens so all you have to do is add your meds and a 1/2 dram of "Lorann" flavorings to get exactly what you guys are looking for. I'm making a small batch now and will add photos I just shot and will post the end product.

This batch is 5g UK cheese (chopped not ground) and added to 3oz of fog juice. I then place this jar inside my crockpot full of water on low setting that is also on a timer that is set 3hrs on 2hrs off and let it go for 3 days and its done. Other option is placing it on a shelf for a month or longer, but heating it on a low setting works faster without any changes in the end liquid. After 3 days it is poured through a brass coffee filter (multiple times) then add the flavoring of choice and your done.

Tips:
Use your best dried and cured bud and NOT trim or fresh plant matter
Kief can also be added when making for a better high, but not after warming, has to be "cooked" into the liquid before use.
Pull apart the bud or use scissors. Do not use an electric grinder to powder as any small plant matter will mess up the pen being used
Use LorAnn Candy and Baking flavoring instead of "MkCormicks's" from walmart or grocery store, LorAnn has 100+ flavors and 4x's as strong. The watermelon I use tastes and smells just like Jolly Rancher watermelon.
Place a regular paper coffee filter inside the brass coffee filter to pick up any extra plant matter, juice must be just juice when finished, nothing floating around.




I know, I know... Giving all my secrets away . I also have the perfect butterscotch hard candy recipe that tastes exactly like Brach's butterscotch disks, super strong since the finished candies are 1/3 cannabutter

So what you wanna do us make the strongest possible glycerin based tincture you can about a zip of hash or more and get an ecig kit online that uses refillable cartridges then just using a syringe fill your cartridges and voila you're done no smell either