Nightmaresgrowing
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please don't re-hatch this thread?
That's it. It's no longer "flushing" for harvest it's now "starving" for harvest.
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Nightmaresgrowing
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That's not flushing. That's called water curing. Water curing: is done by cutting down your buds and removing the fan leaves. It's optional to do further trimming, but note that cured trimmings always make better hash. Place them in a bin of Reverse Osmosis water and keep below above 65F and below 75F. Use something to gently weigh them down. Once a day for 3-7 days (depending on personal preference) change out the water with clean fresh RO water. Because there is a high concentration of chlorophyll and salts in the buds and none in the water, Osmosis will naturally occur, drawing it out of the plant until the levels are equal. The water is changed out to keep the osmotic pressure at its highest: day old water will not have the same osmotic force to suck out everything. After the 3-7 days, hang and dry the buds like you normally would. Done!
Results:
-Less bag appeal
-The smoothest bud you'll ever smoke
-Bud is more potent, but only because the total weight is reduced. IE- where you may get 1.5g air curing, you'll only get 1g with water cure: a much purer product
-Using them method allows you to pump in nutrients all the way to the end, with NO 1-2 weeks of flushing. That could increase yields significantly.
I think this makes sense sorta what does bag appeal mean? Does this increase chance of mold, I am assuming as long as buds do not get wet it is ok. Thank you for the explanation.
ElfoodStampo
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yea yea yea I dont know who that is... I know who you are, the man on the horse. Thank you man on horse.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
If you mean living cuts, it's to stave off the wilt, which makes trimming difficult.
If you do mean water-curing, soaking the buds is part of the whole point. cn
mysunnyboy
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+rep to you magoo, you have a bright future i can tell, i was the same way with curing and drying, it gets easier
yetibear
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High Smokinrav, Dig your aviator!
this year I tested the flushing theory (which is what I've done all along sense I started growing) on my outdoor grow and flushed 2 of my gals as usual, and kept feeding the other girl up until harvest, and I have to say that I noticed NO difference in any of the plants! all 3 started to turn colors at the same time and I noticed nothing different in the final end! NONE what so-ever!! 
I think a plant has so many nutrients stored up by the last 2-3 weeks in it that it just uses up what its stored!! also its cheaper on the pocket book!!!!
Warlock1369
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Well to bad it thread is still going but glad it Finaly went somewhere. To bad it's only after 16 pages of bs.
D3monic
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What about just flushing with water and molasses? That way the plants still getting the sugar (carbs) load. No I'm not trolling... Just seems like a halfway point between the two. That was my thought process at least. I'm growing in soil and organic so I doubt it really makes a difference
Warlock1369
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Without living microbial life in media to break down the molasses is no help. So that is set for midia only ideas. I stoped useing it about 2 years ago. And to tell you the truth I've seen little is any difference.
Motorhead kush
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Word capt. Arjan s a cocksycker strain robber and the cannabis cups a tourist trap. Still a reason for them lousy growers from dam to make a little effort to make better weed for november-december. Weed in amsterdam sucks all year round- grey area woul be the only exception. I have flushed and not flushed and it didnt make much of a difference
..i guess a good strains a good strain and wether u grow pro or like most morons around here smoke ll end up good, regardless of aspect and production.
..i guess a good strains a good strain and wether u grow pro or like most morons around here smoke ll end up good, regardless of aspect and production.
blacksun
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You want to test if flushing really does anything?
Chop a bud before flushing.
Dry it, possibly do a little cure, smoke it.
Compare it to your bud that has been flushed from the very same plant.
You won't notice a difference.
Also, why is MJ the only consumable plant humans need to "flush" before consuming?
Flushing is nothing more than a stoner myth, just like chopping all of a plant's fan leaves off to make it "grow bigger", aka "high yield" defoliation...
Chop a bud before flushing.
Dry it, possibly do a little cure, smoke it.
Compare it to your bud that has been flushed from the very same plant.
You won't notice a difference.
Also, why is MJ the only consumable plant humans need to "flush" before consuming?
Flushing is nothing more than a stoner myth, just like chopping all of a plant's fan leaves off to make it "grow bigger", aka "high yield" defoliation...
Donktastic
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Good info in this thread minus the 14 pages of egos and idiots. If you don't know what your talking about or can't stay on topic please just shut up, it's hard enough to sift through info in the Internet as it is.
I've been firmly in the nonflush camp for years. Although after some reading, and comparing to my own experiences, I am going to tapper off the nutes the last 2 weeks or so. Not because I think it makes the plants taste any better but because nutes are expensive and I don't think they need to be full strength after week 6-7 or so.
Couple other side notes here,
1) I think water cureing is the dumbest idea ever and I will never risk my plants to this method.
2) proper grow, dry and cure and the flush argument is null anyway. There are no shortcuts, flush and super additives will not cover up you half ass grow and cure.
3) I think there is another element to flavor that most people miss. Slightly over ripe your buds. I feel one of the biggest mistakes people make is harvesting to early. It's like picking a green tomato. I think the buds really benefit from some extra maturity. For about a year I have been giving all my plants an extra week of flower, and I feel it's made all the difference. On average I run 9 week flowers now. Just my opinion though
I've been firmly in the nonflush camp for years. Although after some reading, and comparing to my own experiences, I am going to tapper off the nutes the last 2 weeks or so. Not because I think it makes the plants taste any better but because nutes are expensive and I don't think they need to be full strength after week 6-7 or so.
Couple other side notes here,
1) I think water cureing is the dumbest idea ever and I will never risk my plants to this method.
2) proper grow, dry and cure and the flush argument is null anyway. There are no shortcuts, flush and super additives will not cover up you half ass grow and cure.
3) I think there is another element to flavor that most people miss. Slightly over ripe your buds. I feel one of the biggest mistakes people make is harvesting to early. It's like picking a green tomato. I think the buds really benefit from some extra maturity. For about a year I have been giving all my plants an extra week of flower, and I feel it's made all the difference. On average I run 9 week flowers now. Just my opinion though
Ganja viewer
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A slow, controlled drying after harvest in the dark will remove most, if not all clorophyll(a week or so). I'm in a hotter climate, so my big tops usually only hang for 3-4 days before I cut into buds, set in a box and stir for a few days, and then into glass, plastic mayo jars and shake, air, once or twice a day until done, then just stay sealed in jars for a while or bag em and but in fridge. But take as much air out of baggies before storing.. Just don't let moist buds sit together too long because you will get bud-rot if not careful. I don't flush either, but I stop using nutes the last week plus.
akula
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Pretty much this:
Plant roots cannot just suck up sugars like that. They need to use the bi-products of the microbes that will break it down.
Now you will see some pretty impressive studies that may seem to the contrary of this. Plants growing and thriving in straight molasses that leads you to believe they just love the stuff. But what you will find out is that these studies are sponsored, or flat out carried out directly, by the nutrients manufactures. There is a lot they leave out (like adding massive doses of of different thriving microbe communities before the plant life comes into the picture etc) to trick the laymen.
$waGgEr
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shooot! where to start... idiot. and two when you fertalize a plant the nutes can stay present in the soil for 2 to 3 weeks! depending on the brand of inorganic madness you subject your plants to. i grow organic and choose not to flush at all. but when goin with syn. nutes a flush is a must!
$waGgEr
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molasses is intended to feed the micro. boys not the plant its self. molasses is a great tool to use IF your growing the right way (organic micro life or TLO) and hitting the plant with it at the right times. i use it at weeks 6 of flower and two weeks before harvest.. idk if youre going with synthetics or soup style organics molasses doesnt have any huge effect