sheskunk
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I copied and pasted an article. I didn't write it. Hell, I didn't even read it. Your "guilt by association" is running really thin, my friend.
Why would you believe anything? You already know everything.
Texas Sends Armed Troops to Defend the Border
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I copied and pasted an article. I didn't write it. Hell, I didn't even read it. Your "guilt by association" is running really thin, my friend.
Why would you believe anything? You already know everything.
sheskunk
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Immigrant 'Stash Houses' Thrive Along Texas-Mexico Border
Some Smugglers Cram 100 or More Migrants Into a Decrepit House
SAN JUAN, Texas—Sgt. Rolando Garcia sat in a surveillance van earlier this month, staking out a white wooden house surrounded by sprawling cactus in this city of 35,000 residents near the U.S.-Mexico border.
He wasn't looking for signs of drugs or weapons, but for evidence that it was a stash house packed with illegal immigrants, the hottest illicit commodity for smugglers on the Texas border.
Human smuggling is nothing new along the U.S.-Mexico boundary, but federal, state and local officials report a rise in Texas in recent months, as thousands of Central Americans sneak into the country—including many unaccompanied children. The migrants are overwhelming authorities along the Rio Grande.
The criminal networks being uncovered in Texas involve large groups of immigrants—and increasingly brazen smugglers. They often hold migrants hostage and threaten them with brutality if their friends or relatives don't produce extra money to release them, authorities said. Sometime, they kidnap migrants from rival smuggling gangs.
Earlier this month, San Juan police found 43 people trapped inside one suspected stash house. The migrants claimed that their captors threatened to electrocute them if they tried to escape, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court.
"We don't enforce immigration law, but we're obligated to intervene," said Sgt. Garcia, who said his department is now getting five to six calls a day about suspected stash houses. It has busted 21 such houses in the past nine months, four more than in the previous 12 months.
Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should make a broader case to Central Americans not to attempt to come to the U.S.
"The president of the United States has to openly say, 'If you come here and you enter this country illegally you're going to go back,'" Mr. McCain said at a Wall Street Journal breakfast gathering in Washington. "That is not the message that's being put out on television and radio in Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala."
The rise in smuggling and related violence in Texas hasn't reached the proportions that plagued Arizona last decade, when that region was the hot spot for illegal immigrant traffic into the U.S., but authorities say they are concerned that it is worsening.
"We are hoping that we don't find ourselves in the same place as Arizona did," said Janice Ayala, a special agent in charge with Homeland Security HOMS -4.01% Investigations, part of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Smuggling is becoming a threat to public safety in Texas, some local law-enforcement officials say. They report a rise in high-speed pursuits by authorities as more immigrant-laden vehicles pass through the area, and an increase in car thefts as smugglers seek vehicles to transport the migrants.
Last week, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and state legislative leaders authorized $1.3 million in extra funding a week for the rest of 2014 to allow the Texas Department of Public Safety to mount a counterattack to the jump in illegal immigration, arguing that federal officials were failing in their duty to secure the border.
"Texas can't afford to wait for Washington to act on this crisis and we will not sit idly by while the safety and security of our citizens are threatened," Mr. Perry said in a statement.
The U.S. Border Patrol didn't respond to requests for comment for this article, or provide regional statistics on stash- house busts. But according to recent Texas Department of Public Safety reports seen by The Wall Street Journal, there were approximately 17 stash-house busts in the region between May 7 and June 4, resulting in the apprehension of more than 400 immigrants.
"At the end of the day we can't allow the crimes that are being committed, so we have to do something," said Steve McCraw, the head of the Texas Department of Public Safety.
Recently, some migrants have been turning themselves in to authorities shortly after they cross the river, mindful that they likely would be released pending deportation proceedings due to a shortage of detention space in Texas. But many continue to pay to be smuggled past the river to cities such as Houston and Dallas, law-enforcement officials say.
The demand for stash-house space, which smugglers usually rent, has grown so much that authorities recently discovered an outdoor encampment of makeshift huts in the outskirts of McAllen, Texas, near the border.
It can be a lucrative business. Smuggling fees range from $3,000 to $5,000 a person for Central Americans, and can go above $10,000 for migrants coming from places farther away such as China.
Two brothers were recently sentenced to more than 30 years in prison after pleading guilty to kidnapping immigrants from a stash house to extort them. Ms. Ayala of Homeland Security Investigations said it took almost a year to wrap up that case, adding that others that go to trial can take much longer.
The cases can involve dozens of witnesses that investigators have to interview, said Ms. Ayala. They ultimately have to be prosecuted by a U.S. attorney's office, which also has limited resources to handle the work.
It requires "a lot of tenacity for our investigators to pursue these cases and ultimately get people apprehended and charged for their participation," she said.
Some Smugglers Cram 100 or More Migrants Into a Decrepit House
SAN JUAN, Texas—Sgt. Rolando Garcia sat in a surveillance van earlier this month, staking out a white wooden house surrounded by sprawling cactus in this city of 35,000 residents near the U.S.-Mexico border.
He wasn't looking for signs of drugs or weapons, but for evidence that it was a stash house packed with illegal immigrants, the hottest illicit commodity for smugglers on the Texas border.
Human smuggling is nothing new along the U.S.-Mexico boundary, but federal, state and local officials report a rise in Texas in recent months, as thousands of Central Americans sneak into the country—including many unaccompanied children. The migrants are overwhelming authorities along the Rio Grande.
The criminal networks being uncovered in Texas involve large groups of immigrants—and increasingly brazen smugglers. They often hold migrants hostage and threaten them with brutality if their friends or relatives don't produce extra money to release them, authorities said. Sometime, they kidnap migrants from rival smuggling gangs.
Earlier this month, San Juan police found 43 people trapped inside one suspected stash house. The migrants claimed that their captors threatened to electrocute them if they tried to escape, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court.
"We don't enforce immigration law, but we're obligated to intervene," said Sgt. Garcia, who said his department is now getting five to six calls a day about suspected stash houses. It has busted 21 such houses in the past nine months, four more than in the previous 12 months.
Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should make a broader case to Central Americans not to attempt to come to the U.S.
"The president of the United States has to openly say, 'If you come here and you enter this country illegally you're going to go back,'" Mr. McCain said at a Wall Street Journal breakfast gathering in Washington. "That is not the message that's being put out on television and radio in Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala."
The rise in smuggling and related violence in Texas hasn't reached the proportions that plagued Arizona last decade, when that region was the hot spot for illegal immigrant traffic into the U.S., but authorities say they are concerned that it is worsening.
"We are hoping that we don't find ourselves in the same place as Arizona did," said Janice Ayala, a special agent in charge with Homeland Security HOMS -4.01% Investigations, part of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Smuggling is becoming a threat to public safety in Texas, some local law-enforcement officials say. They report a rise in high-speed pursuits by authorities as more immigrant-laden vehicles pass through the area, and an increase in car thefts as smugglers seek vehicles to transport the migrants.
Last week, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and state legislative leaders authorized $1.3 million in extra funding a week for the rest of 2014 to allow the Texas Department of Public Safety to mount a counterattack to the jump in illegal immigration, arguing that federal officials were failing in their duty to secure the border.
"Texas can't afford to wait for Washington to act on this crisis and we will not sit idly by while the safety and security of our citizens are threatened," Mr. Perry said in a statement.
The U.S. Border Patrol didn't respond to requests for comment for this article, or provide regional statistics on stash- house busts. But according to recent Texas Department of Public Safety reports seen by The Wall Street Journal, there were approximately 17 stash-house busts in the region between May 7 and June 4, resulting in the apprehension of more than 400 immigrants.
"At the end of the day we can't allow the crimes that are being committed, so we have to do something," said Steve McCraw, the head of the Texas Department of Public Safety.
Recently, some migrants have been turning themselves in to authorities shortly after they cross the river, mindful that they likely would be released pending deportation proceedings due to a shortage of detention space in Texas. But many continue to pay to be smuggled past the river to cities such as Houston and Dallas, law-enforcement officials say.
The demand for stash-house space, which smugglers usually rent, has grown so much that authorities recently discovered an outdoor encampment of makeshift huts in the outskirts of McAllen, Texas, near the border.
It can be a lucrative business. Smuggling fees range from $3,000 to $5,000 a person for Central Americans, and can go above $10,000 for migrants coming from places farther away such as China.
Two brothers were recently sentenced to more than 30 years in prison after pleading guilty to kidnapping immigrants from a stash house to extort them. Ms. Ayala of Homeland Security Investigations said it took almost a year to wrap up that case, adding that others that go to trial can take much longer.
The cases can involve dozens of witnesses that investigators have to interview, said Ms. Ayala. They ultimately have to be prosecuted by a U.S. attorney's office, which also has limited resources to handle the work.
It requires "a lot of tenacity for our investigators to pursue these cases and ultimately get people apprehended and charged for their participation," she said.
AlecTheGardener
Well-Known Member
Excuses? Bets? Not involved in that.
Chaney is a war profiteer Red, that is what I said.
londonfog
Well-Known Member
Red feels Cheney is not...well not that he knows of.
I wonder did he vote in 2004
ginwilly
Well-Known Member
I think McCain must be too. He sure does have a hard on to blow shit up so we can occupy and rebuild.
So sick of us and our wars.
I used to think Paul was an isolationist. I agree with his foreign policy of mind our own and butt out so much more after these last 12 years.
AlecTheGardener
Well-Known Member
The thing that blows my mind is that he insists I am somehow arguing a side on the bet.
I keep saying it, I feel like a broken record: Cheney is a war profiteer.
Don't give a fuck about stocks Red, I am making this statement aside from the bet; AS I ALWAYS HAVE.
Still though I do find it amusing that he brings me back into this EVERY TIME the bet argument comes up. At one point he included me into it and wanted me to also leave with you if he won, remember that?
You must love me Red.
I love you buddy! You need to chill, I am not an enemy! Smoke a bowl and relax.
AlecTheGardener
Well-Known Member
It seems hard to turn on American media and not see one of them [mccain or Cheney ]floating around on a talking head show blathering about needing to invade again.
McCain
You would think that a man who was a combat veteran would understand, he must not have lost any friends or family he cherished.
Maybe the money is really just that nice.
Maybe he is senile and is being used by forces larger then himself.
Could be a wonderful combination of those things.
AlecTheGardener
Well-Known Member
Is it crazy of me to be a bit scarred that this can end up being a Bundy Ranch 2.0?
More white supremacist militia groups mixed in with people who are more well meaning.
A thought.
mhz
Well-Known Member
The very fact that you called an African Country a black nation is racist! Black People are African-American, whom have lost their ancestral/cultural roots from Africa.
ginwilly
Well-Known Member
I'm willing to give the former tortured pow the benefit of the doubt that he believes what he says.
He has a perception that only a few survivors could have. I just disagree with it.
I'm not ready to put him in the war for profit group just yet. I think he has a hard on for war and happens to be in a position to profit. As are many many of our elected officials.
beans davis
Well-Known Member
All these guv engineered crisis are tied together.
Yeah i'm 100% sure there will be another attack on us...but not by some made up CIA run Isis. It will be another false flag.
What rock did this Cheney bastard crawl out from under? That's the same shit they said right before the 9/11 false flag.
They are saying Isis has a nuke. Use your brain and think about it. Iran w all their money and political influence been trying to get nukes for 25yrs & couldn't get 1... now all of a sudden this phony Isis gets 1 no prob?
Come on now...yall can do better than that!
It's psy ops man...they are preppin the sheeple.
Dick Cheney: There Will Be Another ‘Massive Attack’ On America That’s ‘Far Deadlier’ Than 9/11
June 25, 2014
BRETT LOGIURATO
businessinsider.com
Former Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday predicted there would be an attack on the United States within the next decade that is “far deadlier” than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
“I doubt it,” Cheney told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, when asked if he thinks the U.S. would “get through this decade” without another “massive attack on the homeland.”
“I think there will be another attack. And the next time, I think it’s going to be far deadlier than the last one. Imagine what would happen if somebody could smuggle a nuclear device, put it in a shipping container, and drive it down the beltway outside Washington, D.C.”
Hewitt then asked Cheney if another attack would lead to “military rule” and the reconstitution of the U.S. government. Cheney detailed the “continuity of government” program, which he said was set up during the Cold War so that a “government in waiting” could be in place if necessary.
to read more: businessinsider.com
Tags: Dick Cheney, Dick Cheney: There Will Be Another 'Massive Attack' On America
They can kill us w no charges or trial on American soil now...NDAA Damn it!
Obama cites Israeli Supreme Court to justify killing Americans without trial
June 25, 2014
Rania Khalek
electronicintifada.net
Almost three years have passed since the United States government extrajudicially murdered American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone strike in Yemen. Al-Awlaki, although described by the government as a “terrorist” mastermind, had never been charged with any crime.
The Obama administration refused to disclose the legal reasoning behind the killing. But thanks to Freedom Information Act lawsuits by The New York Times and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a redacted version of the Department of Justice memo which outlines the Obama administration’s rationale for killing American citizens abroad without trial is now public.
Authored by David Barron — former chief of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, who has since been appointed by Obama to a federal judgeship — the 41-page document seeks to legitimize so-called targeted killings, a practice Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, vigorously condemned Israel for using against Palestinians during the second intifada.
Yeah i'm 100% sure there will be another attack on us...but not by some made up CIA run Isis. It will be another false flag.
What rock did this Cheney bastard crawl out from under? That's the same shit they said right before the 9/11 false flag.
They are saying Isis has a nuke. Use your brain and think about it. Iran w all their money and political influence been trying to get nukes for 25yrs & couldn't get 1... now all of a sudden this phony Isis gets 1 no prob?
Come on now...yall can do better than that!
It's psy ops man...they are preppin the sheeple.
Dick Cheney: There Will Be Another ‘Massive Attack’ On America That’s ‘Far Deadlier’ Than 9/11
June 25, 2014
BRETT LOGIURATO
businessinsider.com
Former Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday predicted there would be an attack on the United States within the next decade that is “far deadlier” than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
“I doubt it,” Cheney told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, when asked if he thinks the U.S. would “get through this decade” without another “massive attack on the homeland.”
“I think there will be another attack. And the next time, I think it’s going to be far deadlier than the last one. Imagine what would happen if somebody could smuggle a nuclear device, put it in a shipping container, and drive it down the beltway outside Washington, D.C.”
Hewitt then asked Cheney if another attack would lead to “military rule” and the reconstitution of the U.S. government. Cheney detailed the “continuity of government” program, which he said was set up during the Cold War so that a “government in waiting” could be in place if necessary.
to read more: businessinsider.com
Tags: Dick Cheney, Dick Cheney: There Will Be Another 'Massive Attack' On America
They can kill us w no charges or trial on American soil now...NDAA Damn it!
Obama cites Israeli Supreme Court to justify killing Americans without trial
June 25, 2014
Rania Khalek
electronicintifada.net
Almost three years have passed since the United States government extrajudicially murdered American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone strike in Yemen. Al-Awlaki, although described by the government as a “terrorist” mastermind, had never been charged with any crime.
The Obama administration refused to disclose the legal reasoning behind the killing. But thanks to Freedom Information Act lawsuits by The New York Times and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a redacted version of the Department of Justice memo which outlines the Obama administration’s rationale for killing American citizens abroad without trial is now public.
Authored by David Barron — former chief of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, who has since been appointed by Obama to a federal judgeship — the 41-page document seeks to legitimize so-called targeted killings, a practice Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, vigorously condemned Israel for using against Palestinians during the second intifada.
sheskunk
Well-Known Member
According to some people here, this is not even happening...
Obama Warns Central Americans: ‘Do Not Send Your Children To The Borders’
President Obama says tens of thousands of Central American children flooding into the U.S. along the southern border have created a “humanitarian crisis,” and he appealed directly to parents to stop sending kids north.
“Our message absolutely is don't send your children unaccompanied, on trains or through a bunch of smugglers,” Obama told ABC’s Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos in an exclusive interview here. “We don't even know how many of these kids don't make it, and may have been waylaid into sex trafficking or killed because they fell off a train.
“Do not send your children to the borders,” he said. “If they do make it, they'll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it.”
More of Stephanopoulos’ interview with the president will air on “Good Morning America” tomorrow and on “This Week” Sunday morning.
The Department of Homeland Security says more than 52,000 unaccompanied minors have been detained along the U.S. border with Mexico this fiscal year. In addition, authorities have apprehended 39,000 adults with small children. The numbers reflect a significant uptick over last year, when just 24,000 unaccompanied minors were apprehended. The majority in the surge hail from Central American countries, and a disproportionate number are young women and under age 13, officials say.
Under federal law, undocumented immigrant minors from countries other than Mexico cannot be immediately returned. Instead, U.S. authorities are required to process the children, then provide for their health care and other basic needs before releasing them to relatives or foster parents until they are to appear in an immigration court.
“If they come from a non-contiguous country, then there's a lengthy process,” Obama told Stephanopoulos.
Obama administration sources said this week that of the unaccompanied children who come into the U.S., historically more than 50 percent are placed with parents or family members in the U.S. and many are adopted by American families and remain.
Republican critics say lenient immigration policies under the administration – including the Deferred Action program, granting legal status to some undocumented youth already in the U.S., and a directive to prosecutors to focus on deporting criminal aliens – have exacerbated the problem.
But Obama said this year’s influx reflects “the desperation and the violence that exists in some of these Central American countries.”
Obama Warns Central Americans: ‘Do Not Send Your Children To The Borders’
President Obama says tens of thousands of Central American children flooding into the U.S. along the southern border have created a “humanitarian crisis,” and he appealed directly to parents to stop sending kids north.
“Our message absolutely is don't send your children unaccompanied, on trains or through a bunch of smugglers,” Obama told ABC’s Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos in an exclusive interview here. “We don't even know how many of these kids don't make it, and may have been waylaid into sex trafficking or killed because they fell off a train.
“Do not send your children to the borders,” he said. “If they do make it, they'll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it.”
More of Stephanopoulos’ interview with the president will air on “Good Morning America” tomorrow and on “This Week” Sunday morning.
The Department of Homeland Security says more than 52,000 unaccompanied minors have been detained along the U.S. border with Mexico this fiscal year. In addition, authorities have apprehended 39,000 adults with small children. The numbers reflect a significant uptick over last year, when just 24,000 unaccompanied minors were apprehended. The majority in the surge hail from Central American countries, and a disproportionate number are young women and under age 13, officials say.
Under federal law, undocumented immigrant minors from countries other than Mexico cannot be immediately returned. Instead, U.S. authorities are required to process the children, then provide for their health care and other basic needs before releasing them to relatives or foster parents until they are to appear in an immigration court.
“If they come from a non-contiguous country, then there's a lengthy process,” Obama told Stephanopoulos.
Obama administration sources said this week that of the unaccompanied children who come into the U.S., historically more than 50 percent are placed with parents or family members in the U.S. and many are adopted by American families and remain.
Republican critics say lenient immigration policies under the administration – including the Deferred Action program, granting legal status to some undocumented youth already in the U.S., and a directive to prosecutors to focus on deporting criminal aliens – have exacerbated the problem.
But Obama said this year’s influx reflects “the desperation and the violence that exists in some of these Central American countries.”
greenlikemoney
Well-Known Member
So the militia groups going to Texas are "white supremacists"?
i wish cheney, cheney's hat and liz would just go off somewhere and die already..even bush is smart enough to know to keep his fucking mouth shut.All these guv engineered crisis are tied together.
Yeah i'm 100% sure there will be another attack on us...but not by some made up CIA run Isis. It will be another false flag.
What rock did this Cheney bastard crawl out from under? That's the same shit they said right before the 9/11 false flag.
They are saying Isis has a nuke. Use your brain and think about it. Iran w all their money and political influence been trying to get nukes for 25yrs & couldn't get 1... now all of a sudden this phony Isis gets 1 no prob?
Come on now...yall can do better than that!
It's psy ops man...they are preppin the sheeple.
Dick Cheney: There Will Be Another ‘Massive Attack’ On America That’s ‘Far Deadlier’ Than 9/11
June 25, 2014
BRETT LOGIURATO
businessinsider.com
Former Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday predicted there would be an attack on the United States within the next decade that is “far deadlier” than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
“I doubt it,” Cheney told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, when asked if he thinks the U.S. would “get through this decade” without another “massive attack on the homeland.”
“I think there will be another attack. And the next time, I think it’s going to be far deadlier than the last one. Imagine what would happen if somebody could smuggle a nuclear device, put it in a shipping container, and drive it down the beltway outside Washington, D.C.”
Hewitt then asked Cheney if another attack would lead to “military rule” and the reconstitution of the U.S. government. Cheney detailed the “continuity of government” program, which he said was set up during the Cold War so that a “government in waiting” could be in place if necessary.
to read more: businessinsider.com
Tags: Dick Cheney, Dick Cheney: There Will Be Another 'Massive Attack' On America
They can kill us w no charges or trial on American soil now...NDAA Damn it!
Obama cites Israeli Supreme Court to justify killing Americans without trial
June 25, 2014
Rania Khalek
electronicintifada.net
Almost three years have passed since the United States government extrajudicially murdered American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone strike in Yemen. Al-Awlaki, although described by the government as a “terrorist” mastermind, had never been charged with any crime.
The Obama administration refused to disclose the legal reasoning behind the killing. But thanks to Freedom Information Act lawsuits by The New York Times and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a redacted version of the Department of Justice memo which outlines the Obama administration’s rationale for killing American citizens abroad without trial is now public.
Authored by David Barron — former chief of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, who has since been appointed by Obama to a federal judgeship — the 41-page document seeks to legitimize so-called targeted killings, a practice Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, vigorously condemned Israel for using against Palestinians during the second intifada.
like ANYONE is going to listen to that fucker
AlecTheGardener
Well-Known Member
Regular militia and the hateful kind, both. Keep an eye out for the supremacists, they love attention more then most.
I was pointing out that a bunch of militia groups flocked to the Bundy Ranch, some of the militia groups were white supremacists.
I fear a repeat of the same, some silly civilians exercising their rights without things getting out of hand
. . . then the more militant and neo-nazi militias show up for media attention. Then the real silliness starts, people start doing goofy shit.
The sight of firearms does not bother me, in states that I lived previously I have always had a concealed carry permit.
The sight of a firearm being carried improperly by an idiot with a death wish and enough hatred in themselves to carry it out is something unsavory. Heebie-jeebies.
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DonAlejandroVega
Well-Known Member
damned straight
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
i know that feel.
red snapped at me the other day over that issue.
dick cheney may have not TECHNICALLY owned the stocks, but the distinction is very narrow and wonkish
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
you assume they are white supremacists, but isnt there a BLACK GUY in that image right there?
what self-respecting white supremacist hangs out in a militia unit with negroes?