Testing Beneficial Bacteria in Ebb and Flow (AK47 with Great White)

kriznarf

Active Member
Just read through the entire thread and wanted to say thanks for taking the time to keep this journal and answer everybody's questions, HB. I know this could have been said in a PM, but I'm happy to bump a such an informative thread for newer members like myself who may not have caught this info the first time around.

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Springtucky

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Things are good, can't really complain. Been experimenting with some crosses recently which is always exciting if you're working with good parents. How about you, anything new?
Maybe a topic for your next write up? Or even a pheno selection process like you had mentioned earlier in journal with the kali mist. Any chance of you working with Dumpster at some point? I thought about trying to find a good NL male and cubing it if I could manage it someday. I want to be a tester if you ever think of releasing anything. With as many folks as you've helped to grow healthy plants and understand a little basic plant nutrition I'm sure they'd be in demand.
 

homebrewer

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Maybe a topic for your next write up? Or even a pheno selection process like you had mentioned earlier in journal with the kali mist. Any chance of you working with Dumpster at some point? I thought about trying to find a good NL male and cubing it if I could manage it someday. I want to be a tester if you ever think of releasing anything. With as many folks as you've helped to grow healthy plants and understand a little basic plant nutrition I'm sure they'd be in demand.
Actually, I'm in the middle of the selection process right now with my strain. I'm slowly working my way through 12 females, I think I've sampled 4 now and eliminated 2 or 3 others just based on aroma and flowering-time alone. I will have a tray of my two favorites so far in about 1 month so maybe i'll do a journal just to show them off? :oops:

Dumpster would be a fun strain to work with in the future just because it's so resinous and is done in 60 days. Maybe I could keep the resin production and the shorter flowering time but breed out the indica? :lol:
 

Illumination

New Member
Actually, I'm in the middle of the selection process right now with my strain. I'm slowly working my way through 12 females, I think I've sampled 4 now and eliminated 2 or 3 others just based on aroma and flowering-time alone. I will have a tray of my two favorites so far in about 1 month so maybe i'll do a journal just to show them off? :oops:

Dumpster would be a fun strain to work with in the future just because it's so resinous and is done in 60 days. Maybe I could keep the resin production and the shorter flowering time but breed out the indica? :lol:
That and the next time one of them Kalis is real racy and trippy scary shit I would LOVE to do a very righteous smoke report for ya there my friend! LOL... And I want to again tell you that AK was the best smelling weed I have had in very long time if ever. Man that shit smelled sooooooooooo good. Tasted really good too. But seems like you are chasing another grail there and am very interested in the outcome. And lol...indica free dumpster!!

Also I see that alot of your brewing knowledge is applicable and gives you a deeper understanding of horticulture as well. My minor in chemistry really helps me understand nutes and how they interact. Is also why I use chems almost exclusively as I know it and my results show it to be just as if not more so a better product. Everytime I have employed "organics" aside from mineralization of the soiless medium (love me some azomite/lime/de) all it ever doers is through shit outta whack, lol.

Namaste' :leaf:
 

Springtucky

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you mean to where you can smoke it and stay awake longer than 25 minutes? Seriously HB, what's the percentage of amber trichs do you pull your Dumpster at? I wish it was less narcotic I guess.
 

homebrewer

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That and the next time one of them Kalis is real racy and trippy scary shit I would LOVE to do a very righteous smoke report for ya there my friend! LOL... And I want to again tell you that AK was the best smelling weed I have had in very long time if ever. Man that shit smelled sooooooooooo good. Tasted really good too. But seems like you are chasing another grail there and am very interested in the outcome. And lol...indica free dumpster!!

Also I see that alot of your brewing knowledge is applicable and gives you a deeper understanding of horticulture as well. My minor in chemistry really helps me understand nutes and how they interact. Is also why I use chems almost exclusively as I know it and my results show it to be just as if not more so a better product. Everytime I have employed "organics" aside from mineralization of the soiless medium (love me some azomite/lime/de) all it ever doers is through shit outta whack, lol.

Namaste' :leaf:
I think you had a few beans in your sample so hopefully when you get some space, you'll germ those and let me know how they turn out. Kali x AK was the accidental cross there since pollen chucking isn't an exact science :oops:. I'd be happy to get a sample to you when everything is said and done with my new strain for an official review. It takes me a month to pick apart a strain as well as you did in a single session. Both you and upthearsenal did an excellent job!

you mean to where you can smoke it and stay awake longer than 25 minutes? Seriously HB, what's the percentage of amber trichs do you pull your Dumpster at? I wish it was less narcotic I guess.
I pull at about half clear half cloudy which always seems to be at day 60. It's still narcotic and 'couchlocky', not my thing but patients love it.
 
Awesome thread Homebrewer, I will PM you for the results once I build up my posts counts.

The Clearex test was on point and very informative, thank you for sharing!
 

crash1522

Member
Day 22 today and today will be my first 'leaching of salts' along with a normally scheduled res change. I leach salts every 3 weeks and I believe that keeping your medium clean is essential to maintaining healthy plants until harvest day.

This past week I noticed something that I also noticed on my first run with Great White. Even when using 'synthetic' nutrients, beneficials do aide in the uptake of mineral salts. I'm feeding at about 1.3 EC or 950ppm on the 442 scale and this past week I noticed a slight touch of tip burn. This is nothing I'm worried about and something I noticed at normal feeding levels during my first run with this product as well. My fix during the last test was to cut back the nutes 5-10% which is what I'll do this time too.

Again, the pH is unaffected by the beneficials and as far as plant health and growth rate goes, everything seems to be on schedule.

What is the leaching of salts you refer to.
 

Izoc666

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Finally i read all of this pages, HB !

last time i was at the grow room store, and I saw the Great White on the shelves that bring me to here to check it out. Im much interested if this product is worth to buy ?

Again your thread is awesome, good job , sir !

Happy growing.
 

Trichy Bastard

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Homebrewer -I'm excited to try a new method for keeping my mothers, I have opted to try your sunshine #4 (first time using it) with the dyna-gro I have... Will keep you posted in the progress. Is there any tips you might pass on?
 

homebrewer

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Homebrewer -I'm excited to try a new method for keeping my mothers, I have opted to try your sunshine #4 (first time using it) with the dyna-gro I have... Will keep you posted in the progress. Is there any tips you might pass on?
I mix my promix with about 40% medium size vermiculite. As far as feeding and watering, just water when needed and feed them like you'd feed any other veggin plant (lightly). It's pretty simple to keep moms in promix.
 

Trichy Bastard

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I mix my promix with about 40% medium size vermiculite. As far as feeding and watering, just water when needed and feed them like you'd feed any other veggin plant (lightly). It's pretty simple to keep moms in promix.
Perfect! That's exactly the tip I was looking for... I remembered something about that when I read the thread, but sheesh that was a year ago now... Do you use promix, or sunshine (is there a noteable difference)? (It's really my first time ever using an inert soil.) Lastly, how is the ph- I have the sunshine mix, so should I ph my water/nutes to around 6.5?
 

homebrewer

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Perfect! That's exactly the tip I was looking for... I remembered something about that when I read the thread, but sheesh that was a year ago now... Do you use promix, or sunshine (is there a noteable difference)? (It's really my first time ever using an inert soil.) Lastly, how is the ph- I have the sunshine mix, so should I ph my water/nutes to around 6.5?
I've used both sunshine mix and promix and they're both great. B'cuzz hydro mix feels the same as the other two but I don't like it.

When feeding, I mix in protekt, then my grow, and the ratio I use of both brings my pH into the mid-6's. You'll have to play around with that ratio to see what brings you into that range. Maybe 2 and 2 works? Maybe 4 and 3 works? Experiment.
 

Trichy Bastard

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I've used both sunshine mix and promix and they're both great. B'cuzz hydro mix feels the same as the other two but I don't like it.

When feeding, I mix in protekt, then my grow, and the ratio I use of both brings my pH into the mid-6's. You'll have to play around with that ratio to see what brings you into that range. Maybe 2 and 2 works? Maybe 4 and 3 works? Experiment.
Cool HB, thanks again man... If you remember my first message as a new member last year, you're the reason I decided to join RIU and you still have all the respect I can give a guy... Btw- if you wanna hear something shocking, my aero mentor here "tree farmer" seems to be able to get over 3g/watt- and runs no more than 800 ppm -hows that for inspiring!
 
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