Talking to police. A must watch.

So, I've been reading here, and talking to friends around the country dealing with some legal issues. I'm not an attorney (but I play one on TV). I am going to post a video that you should all fire one up and watch. The video has two parts. It's taught by a Duke Law Professor, and his special guest, a veteran police interrogator.

Many of you think you know what to say, and some of you actually know your rights, but don't quite know how to practice them. Some of you know your rights, know how to practice them, but still end of saying ANYTHING at all.

Please. Watch this video. This is what your lawyer knows, how your lawyer can best assist you if you need assistance, and how police will do anything to get you to say anything. Bottom line. Do not say a word. But don't take my word for it. Learn from the guy who teaches attorneys and the guy who made a career getting smart people to say stupid and incriminating things.

This video is 49 minutes long, but it could save you years of your life and a lifetime of legal expenses.

For those of you in MMJ and Legal states, this is for you too. Depending on the outcome of the 2016 election, everything could change, in a massive federal crackdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
 

churchhaze

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It looks pretty good. About to watch it.

Thanks for the link!

I like the title itself.

"Don't talk to police!"

Stay out of legal trouble everyone, and happy growing.
 

ProdigalSun

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I've seen this video. Trust me from experience, there is a time and place for this. Most of the time, and in most places. The majority of people riding in police cars talked their way into the car.

Even from kindergarten, they send police into the schools to teach society to trust the authorities, to tell them everything, and to not fear them. I doubt the sucker who wore the uniform to the preschool that day even knows he's being used as a pawn. The higher authorities don't want them to know. The .gov puts a great deal of effort, money and study (history and psychology mostly) into making people passive towards their handlers. This makes their job in dealing with you easier.

The police are not your friends. They are professional witnesses for the prosecution. Their job, is to collect as much evidence as they can to prosecute. Generally, you. They are trained with many methods to get you to comply. They have classes on lying and psycho tricks games and methods that are designed to gather information from you, while gaining your trust. They are really really good at making you talk. They have taught you since early childhood to be honest, open, transparent, they have taught you to be happy to help them in your prosecution.

"Anything you say can and will be used AGAINST YOU in a court of law."

Notice how it doesn't say anywhere, that what you say can be used for you???

It's like a car salesman telling you he will give you 3k on a trade. Your car is worth like 600 bucks, he isn't giving you3 grand, he's working within a specific price range set by himself or his boss. He just took your car from you, and make you think you got a deal. Hahahahaha sucker.

Cops and prosecutors do the same thing.

Don't be a dick and zip your lip, pick your words. Do everything as though you are on video because you might be, and say everything as though you were in front of a judge and a jury because you or your recorded words might be.
 
I've seen this video. Trust me from experience, there is a time and place for this. Most of the time, and in most places. The majority of people riding in police cars talked their way into the car.

Even from kindergarten, they send police into the schools to teach society to trust the authorities, to tell them everything, and to not fear them. I doubt the sucker who wore the uniform to the preschool that day even knows he's being used as a pawn. The higher authorities don't want them to know. The .gov puts a great deal of effort, money and study (history and psychology mostly) into making people passive towards their handlers. This makes their job in dealing with you easier.

The police are not your friends. They are professional witnesses for the prosecution. Their job, is to collect as much evidence as they can to prosecute. Generally, you. They are trained with many methods to get you to comply. They have classes on lying and psycho tricks games and methods that are designed to gather information from you, while gaining your trust. They are really really good at making you talk. They have taught you since early childhood to be honest, open, transparent, they have taught you to be happy to help them in your prosecution.

"Anything you say can and will be used AGAINST YOU in a court of law."

Notice how it doesn't say anywhere, that what you say can be used for you???

It's like a car salesman telling you he will give you 3k on a trade. Your car is worth like 600 bucks, he isn't giving you3 grand, he's working within a specific price range set by himself or his boss. He just took your car from you, and make you think you got a deal. Hahahahaha sucker.

Cops and prosecutors do the same thing.

Don't be a dick and zip your lip, pick your words. Do everything as though you are on video because you might be, and say everything as though you were in front of a judge and a jury because you or your recorded words might be.

I appreciate the shared sentiment, but your advice is wrong, and advice like that is why I posted this video. Do not pick your words. You have no words except words that will persecute you, so you'd only be picking which words will be twisted and used against you. Do not do everything as though you are on video, because you are on video and the best thing you can do is nothing and say nothing. Please watch the video. DO NOT PICK YOUR WORDS. YOUR ATTORNEY CANNOT UNPICK ANY WORDS FOR YOU. Once you begin talking, it's all over... in almost every instance. You just served as a witness against yourself. That's the very heart and matter of the 5th amendment: we do not have to testify against ourselves.
 
"No comment".


Job done.
Wrong. Saying "no comment" might work for your attorney when he's talking to reporters outside the courtroom where you just got convicted because you said "no comment" to police during an interview.

When you say "no comment" the investigator on the stand will recall "He was defiant, and stubborn. He seemed like he had something to hide."

What you say is absolutely nothing. The only other words you might want to say are "I would like to call my lawyer now."

"No comment" is a comment and is now open to interpretation and submission as evidence (as slight as your remark it might be). On the video they'll play for the jury, there will be you, looking scared and saying no comment, probably in a frightened way, or in a defiant manner. Silence is silence. They cannot perceive your silence as anything except you exercising your right to remain silent. Once you say no comment, you have made a comment, and that opens the door for more advanced interrogation techniques. You say nothing. Always. Nothing.

Watch the video please. No comment is what publicists and marketing professionals and attorneys get to say when asked for "a comment" by the press. "No comment" is not what you say to any question in a police interrogation room. You say nothing, except to ask for an attorney. If you say no comment to one question, they will continue to enter your head and ask further questions because you have responded to a question. No comment is an awful response. It is not silence.
 

churchhaze

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"Am I under arrest? Am I being detained? Am I free to go? Have a nice day officer."

That's it.

Do not talk to police. You don't even have to give them your name, and you CERTAINLY don't have to give them your ID. (unless you're driving, but PASSENGERS ARE EXEMPT and legally do not have to provide ID)

If they threaten to make your life hard, there's nothing more you can do but apologize and repeat yourself.

"I'm very sorry officer, but am I free to go?"
 

Cobnobuler

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I believe theres a fine line here. While I certainly agree that "anything you say can and will be used against you" holding to a stone cold silence in the wrong situation can make you look guilty as hell depending on the situation, and make LE dig even deeper into whatever it is they are snooping around for, or pulled you over for. I too spent a few years in the sales business and I can spit a thousand words at you and never really say anything, sliding right into bitching about that damned guy next doors dog barking all the time and blah blah blah. Granted you have to choose each and every word very carefully, but to always meet LE with stone cold silence depending on the situation may keep you from incriminating yourself in the moment, but if your not very careful about it, you can tip your hand right then and there until they DO come back with their warrant based on your lack of response, and do whatever they want to do.
Every situation is different, so there is no one steadfast way of handling any of them.
Again, depending on the situation there is MUCH to be said about the advice above and your freedom could be at stake in a heartbeat. Whichever way you choose to respond to it, one has to be very very careful in what they say, and to not raise too much suspicion in what they don't say.
 

ProdigalSun

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I appreciate the shared sentiment, but your advice is wrong, and advice like that is why I posted this video. Do not pick your words. You have no words except words that will persecute you, so you'd only be picking which words will be twisted and used against you. Do not do everything as though you are on video, because you are on video and the best thing you can do is nothing and say nothing. Please watch the video. DO NOT PICK YOUR WORDS. YOUR ATTORNEY CANNOT UNPICK ANY WORDS FOR YOU. Once you begin talking, it's all over... in almost every instance. You just served as a witness against yourself. That's the very heart and matter of the 5th amendment: we do not have to testify against ourselves.
Respectfully sir, my advice comes from fist hand experience. More than one time. I had been a person of interest for quite some time due to some activism I had been participation in. It eventually wound up in two separate convictions, neither of which I was guilty of. In both instances had I refused to speak with the police, the D.A. would have hit me with a felony. One tried later in court, but I was able to take a plea. Another time, I was illegally detained and searched, a felony by the officers involved. During the stop, I was able, through conversation only, able to develop a good rapport with one of the officers. A couple years later, I get tangled up in some BS, and guess who is the officer in charge? Yep, the guy that I wouldn't stonewall, because I had already learned that if you do, you will get screwed. This officer wrote me for a misdemeanor when I could have been charged with a felony. How do I know this? Because I looked the guy up and asked him. Although police are trained liars, he wasn't lying. There are other examples that I have personally experienced, but do not care to list, but trust me when I tell you these things. Your advice is good, but it has its time and place. I have had more direct contact with the police than many of you here ever will and that experience has shown your claims not to be entirely true. Anything you say can and will be used against you, not for you, we all get that. What you have to learn, is what to say, and what not to say. If you lack that experience, then it's maybe best to STFU. What is most effective, is to say very little. Talk to them, just stay off topic, or limit the information you give them. Do not lie. What you have to say, is your defense, don't give it to them, you won't have anything to defend yourself with. Tell them what they need to hear in order to maintain good relations with them, don't incriminate yourself, and don't give them any evidence. Never drop a name or place. Do not be specific. And never, never give them anything that they can use against you. If you don't know what you're saying, don't say it. If you don't know how they will use what you say, don't say it.



OP. I personally have posted this video here on RIU, and on other forums, I have shared it on Facebook and have discussed it at length with professionals both within and out of the legal field. I even think that viewing it should be t should always mandatory for all high school students. After the video is seen however, it would be wise to discuss the facts that I have brought to the discussion.


I have to give credit where it is due. I believe in God, and I believe that Jesus Christ has helped me out in the past, so I can't take all the credit. Glory to His holy name.
 

ProdigalSun

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The rules of engagement have changed. If you wish to remain silent, you must now vocally make that clear. If you don't want to talk to them, or you don't know how to pick your words, then you must inform the officers of that choice by saying something like..."I hereby invoke all of my constitutional rights at this time, and this is my request for legal council."

Once that is done, you cannot speak with them. By doing so, you have disavowed your previous desire to remain silent. If they continue to ask, while your rights are activated, the evidence, and case can be tossed.

Do not resist, you will be arrested at this point. Resisting officers is a felony in most states now. That's what the silent treatment will usually get you btw... arrested.
 
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