Swamp Cooler through Light Hoods? +REP

Hi all, quick question. I have a swamp cooler (evaporative cooler) that cools my house, and inside of one room, I have my grow tent set up. Here is my Q: Would it be ok to run ventilation tubing straight from my vent that feeds the room, then through my air cooled hoods and then out of the tent? I ask because I am worried there could be condensation or something that might build up in the hoods.....

I will have my tent exhausted by a 6 in inline fan attached to a carbon filter...but I'm just wondering if you think moisture will build in the light hoods? Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

your going to kill your self thats mostly water vapor coming out of your swamp cooler you dont need to worry about any thing building up in as much as you do with getting shocked of youll light will just fry and flip all the breakers

Dont do it!!! Your lights will burn out.

HMMMM, lets see here....

im going to take COLD air, and run it around the outside of HOT glass?

its Heated from the inside you say? frozen outside?

it wont take very long for the bulb to burn out, or explode.....

your going to kill your self thats mostly water vapor coming out of your swamp cooler

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I will have my tent exhausted by a 6 in inline fan attached to a carbon filter

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Then hook the Damn thing up to the lights!!!! THATS WHAT ITS MADE FOR.

i just duck taped a 5 dollar fan on my light and it took the heat down 8.f under the lamp

hahahaha!!! quit growing!!! if you can't figure out why that wont work you have more then 1 problem on the horizon. YOUR BULBS WILL BLOW UP. no joke they will! that is not just cold air. where do you live, AZ? Southwest region? you just need to upgrade to a real a/c unit and run real cold air through your hoods. what is your set up? you may be able to eliminate some of your troubles by telling us your light size and tent size. other factors go into play. and if this is the way your are starting out, you are in for a long road of problems. trust me. take it form someone who has been through almost every issue you can go through except spider mites, knock on wood. had aphids though. they lost, i won!!! happy growing!!!

If I have my inline fan drawing air from inside the room and through the lights....isnt that almost the same thing? It's still air from the swamp cooler....still the same temp as air coming out of the swamp cooler....

Not sure why pulling cooled air through a light hood is such a bad idea...pulling hot air through cooling hoods would be pretty pointless.

I can see why pulling concentrated moist air through the hoods is bad.

I won't be doing this, but I think some of the reasoning here in this thread seems a little off.

This isn't my first grow, I have produced great results before but was growing vertical with no cool hoods. I pulled .98 gram/total wattage in my room. I was just looking for a different way to cool my lights because I finally have an entire room to dedicate rather than a back corner of another room.

pulling hot air through cooling hoods would be pretty pointless.

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What dont you understand about basic physics son.

If you vent the air BEFORE IT IS HOT, then there is not hot air in the room.

if your pumping cold air into the room, and pulling it through the hoods, then the light is cooled

I can see why pulling concentrated moist air through the hoods is bad.

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then go spray water on your HPS when its hot and see what happens.

Corbat420 said:

What dont you understand about basic physics son.

If you vent the air BEFORE IT IS HOT, then there is not hot air in the room.

if your pumping cold air into the room, and pulling it through the hoods, then the light is cooled



then go spray water on your HPS when its hot and see what happens.

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Yes obviously this is true.....but you said earlier said that cold air being pulled through the hoods is a bad idea....that is what I am saying makes no sense. I said you should definitely be pulling cold air through the hood.

And why would I spray water on my HPS when I said I CAN see why pulling moist air is bad?? So I can agree with myself?? I appreciate the response but please take the time to understand what I am saying so that you can provide more relevant information.

but you said earlier said that cold air being pulled through the hoods is a bad idea....that is what I am saying makes no sense.

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No, i said Pumping cold air from a swamp cooler, which is what your talking about.

provide more relevant information.

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Go back to school. anyone who has taken Gr. 8 science knows why this is a bad idea......

Q: Why does cold water break hot glass?

A: First, the term for this is called "Thermal Downshock."

What happens is, the cooled surface shrinks in comparison to the glass inside, and the tension makes the glass break.

Abrasions, chips, and knife scores can intensify the breakage.

Thermal Downshock can also happen if you put a hot glass dish on a cold surface (granite countertop, etc). So always put the dish on a cooling rack, cooling pads, trivets, or potholders. If you have a gas stove, you can put the dish on the burner grates and it will be safe.

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This is from your first post:

Would it be ok to run ventilation tubing straight from my vent (Swamp cooler..) that feeds the room, then through my air cooled hoods and then out of the tent?

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That means PUMPING Cold, wet air onto a bulb which reaches 80+ C (165~ F) on the inside... and you dont see how thats a bad idea??

there are HUNDREDS of properly set up grow rooms on this forum. look around.

Semantics aside, I got my answer.

On a side note, how much do you think having a swamp cooler blowing into my room raises the humidity?? In my last grow, my room was part of an add on to the house that didn't have access to the central swamp cooler and thus I was able to use a window AC unit.

I'm not convinced a swamp cooler exhaust has that much water vapor in it Also google water cooled lights they are out there.as long as the system was turned on at the same time there would be no temp. shock, it would come up to a work temperature and stay.the only thing i would worry about is corrosion at the bulb base.But anyhow guys I'll sit back and watch the know it alls.

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I'm not convinced a swamp cooler exhaust has that much water vapor in it Also google water cooled lights they are out there.as long as the system was turned on at the same time there would be no temp. shock, it would come up to a work temperature and stay.the only thing i would worry about is corrosion at the bulb base.But anyhow guys I'll sit back and watch the know it alls.

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This is exactly why I posted this on here....I mean its not like my vents are dripping water or anything so it's not straight water vapor coming out of there obviously...but based on the amount of flaming I got, I was like 'wow apparently I'm a retard who is incapable of growing'. The only reason I could see it not working out is once the air reached the heat source....aka the bulb...it could evaporate the moisture that is in the air and cause condensation.

Does anyone have first hand experience with this?

but based on the amount of flaming I got, I was like 'wow apparently I'm a retard who is incapable of growing'

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well, heres the break down for you....

If you have to ask the question, then you dont have the Knowledge to pursue such venues... plain and simple.

i know the knowledge it takes to know how to run 2000W @ 14.5A through a fully air cooled system which includes moisture.... because i have the knowledge it takes to do this SAFLEY.

If you have to ask people how to set up something, which could kill you, your neibours, your family and who else knows who because of an electrical fire..... Well of course your going to get flamed.

Thats like asking how to make a bomb.... if you dont know, dont ask.....

P.S: dont pull the "thats what a forum is for" because thats NOT what a forum is for..... thats what a College is for. if you want to Learn the ins and outs of Electricity, go take a course like the rest of us.

i know the knowledge it takes to know how to run 2000W @ 14.5A through a fully air cooled system which includes moisture.... because i have the knowledge it takes to do this SAFLEY.

I suggest you go back to school and take some english and spelling classes than smart ass!the guy asked a legit question and was giving some asinine response from someone who thinks he knows it all.

english and spelling classes than smart ass!the guy asked a legit question and was giving some asinine response from someone who thinks he knows it all.

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#1. English refers to learning the Language.... you should have said Go back to school and take a course on Semantics, that would have actually fit.....

#2. thats not a legit question. Anyone who thinks it is just as DUMB as the OP.

Now go spray some water on your HPS and save us all the trouble of dealing with you.

P.S: just for the record to all you fools who think there are water cooled lights.... Google it.... There water cooled through a Radiator inside the light....NO condensation.... water cools the air, cools the light... the same shit i've been talking about the whole thread.

I'm actually a third year engineering major, so to say that I need to back to school etc, just makes me think less of your responses....

I really still do not see how this is such a ridiculous question.....it's no where near the same as spraying an HPS lamp with water, because the air is not as wet as I think people are assuming here. There is absolutely no moisture build up in my house at all from the swamp cooler, that would be absurd. Like I said earlier, it being around a concentrated heat source would be the only possible reason I could see there being any problem with the moisture, which I also think may even be combated with enough air movement.

I might actually run an experiment in a monitored scenario with an old HPS and find out the results because I am assuming you don't really have first hand experience with this.

I have actually taken a couple of electrical engineering classes, and oddly enough, something like this has never been taught in any of them...thus I really do believe this is what a forum is for.

I'm not attacking anyone or anything...I'm sure you're a smart guy but it actually makes you seem less educated when you fire off responses to someone who actually does know what it takes to grow successfully and say they have no business growing. I know what I'm doing, I just had a simple question is all...

I have actually been thinking about it more and more since I posted this and know that sometimes you suck air through your lights from inside your grow room, where humidity can get as high as 60-70% and you don't ever have problems doing that. Just a thought.

Also, I took thermodynamics, I know how water cooled lights work. Thanks.

I'm actually a third year engineering major, so to say that I need to back to school etc, just makes me think less of your responses....

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#1. if you fail to contextualize something like that, then i highly dought your a 3'rd year engineering student.... it wasn't even me who SAID go back to school.... if you can even understand somethine that simple why are you even trying?

I really still do not see how this is such a ridiculous question.....it's no where near the same as spraying an HPS lamp with water, because the air is not as wet as I think people are assuming here.

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#2. i have a Swamp cooler. its a 3 fan, 4 coil opporating unit... produces 24,000 BTU @ 4.5 Amps... the Air comes out of it at 80% RH... 30 seconds of holding my hand in front of it creates water condensation... they DO produce ALOT of condensation.

There is absolutely no moisture build up in my house at all from the swamp cooler

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#2 (Continued). Thats because it is cooling 800+ Square feet (thats a small apartment...), minimum.... puting ALL of that cooling power through a single hood (5 Sq feet?) and Guess what? theres ALOT of condensation.....

I might actually run an experiment in a monitored scenario with an old HPS and find out the results because I am assuming you don't really have first hand experience with this.

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#3. i allready told you to do that. go have fun, hopefully you wont die and just injure yourself so you learn from your mistakes....

I have actually taken a couple of electrical engineering classes, and oddly enough, something like this has never been taught in any of them...thus I really do believe this is what a forum is for.

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Any electrical Technology course (Such as Electrical 101, 102, 201, 202....) covers electricity in high moisture conditions and the precautions that need to be taken. do you think they use straight up industrial wire for those lights in the swimming pool? you guessed wrong..... everything is 100% sealed......

someone who actually does know what it takes to grow successfully and say they have no business growing.

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It still doesn't change that fact that IF you ARE that intelligent, you wouldn't HAVE TO ask. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. IF you were that intelligent you would be able to deduce the things you needed to do such a job, get the tools and parts ready and complete the task... SAFLEY.

P.S: heres a parts list... its not my responsibility if you get hurt.
Heavy duty Electrical tape
Mylar Ducting (Flexvent, 50')
4x 8" hose clamp
Heat resistant Silicone sealant
Sheet metal

Fold the sheet metal around the Blower on the swamp cooler. Make sure it is sealed. Mold the exaust head to fit 6" mylar piping.
Attach and seal mylar vent to the cooler using the hose clamp. Seal it with Electrical tape.
Attach vent to light with Hose clamp. Seal it with Heat resistant sillicon. use Heavy dity tape around outside to fully seal...
Attach exaust Vent to oposing side of light with Clamp. Seal with Sillicon and Tape.
Attach vent to Exaust fan and waste MANY BTU's of cooling power.....

Don't forget to electrical tape EVERYTHING inside the hood.... it has to be SEALED.

it is NOT my responsibility when you end up in the E.R.

Learn to post?

if your such an intelligent man, then why does the post look like THAT ^ ?

#1. English refers to learning the Language.... you should have said Go back to school and take a course on Semantics, that would have actually fit..

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No, what i said was you need to go back to school and take some english and spelling classes. now with that being said, your sentence has numerous grammatical errors and i guess your spell check Doesn't work either. I suggest That you look up semantics because it describes your original post perfectly. i have run numerous rooms, with ac cooled lights which helped prolong bulb life, not reduce it. I'm not sure what school you went to but heat Is usually not a good thing for bulb life. anything done to reduce the temperature will help prolong bulb life. Your statement about burning down the house and risking life and limb is so semantic (?) it's not even funny. personally seen bulbs blow have had transformers blow (NONE of that makes sense..) guess what Mr. electrician it kicked a breaker just like it's designed to do.
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i have the knowledge it takes to know how to run 2000W @ 14.5A through a fully air cooled system which includes moisture.... SAFLEY.

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^ There i fixed it for you? maybe now i can actualy reply...

#1 Semantics refers to MEANING.... if you cant understand that, well than your a LONG ways behind.....

#2. i fixed all the grammatical errors... maybe you should look at your first post, then the correct post.... i highlighted mistakes you picked the wrong fight, obviously....