Supreme Court Anyone?

Roger A. Shrubber

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because, after all, critical race theory isn’t real.
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i'm just waiting to see how much of the republican party and their affiliated judges are left after this all blows over. At least two members of the supreme court are going to be in for some pointed questions, as soon as the republican hate machine that supports them and covers for them is torn apart and tossed into separate cells.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
i'm just waiting to see how much of the republican party and their affiliated judges are left after this all blows over. At least two members of the supreme court are going to be in for some pointed questions, as soon as the republican hate machine that supports them and covers for them is torn apart and tossed into separate cells.
to the bolded: that might be a damned long time. I think we are seeing the tip of a policy iceberg that easily runs back to the Kennedy election.

I keep seeing confirmation (and that could be my bias) that that man is not the cause of Republican “fascization” but an effect. The dark money steering Republican doings would need to be exposed and their agenda taken head-on, and I don’t see that happening.

In that man, we see the effectiveness of a primitive strategy to delay indictments, lawsuits and the general functioning of the judicial system. He’s finally up against something too big to be buried by his usual modus operandi.

The dark money won’t be playing that sort of simple checkers. Their game is chess, and they currently own the board.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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to the bolded: that might be a damned long time. I think we are seeing the tip of a policy iceberg that easily runs back to the Kennedy election.

I keep seeing confirmation (and that could be my bias) that that man is not the cause of Republican “fascization” but an effect. The dark money steering Republican doings would need to be exposed and their agenda taken head-on, and I don’t see that happening.

In that man, we see the effectiveness of a primitive strategy to delay indictments, lawsuits and the general functioning of the judicial system. He’s finally up against something too big to be buried by his usual modus operandi.

The dark money won’t be playing that sort of simple checkers. Their game is chess, and they currently own the board.
Cockroaches prefer to operate in the dark, if you flip the light on, they scatter, at least until they think you aren't looking any more.
You put enough republican assholes in jail, and the dark money won't have an unbroken conduit to travel through, the wealthy will lose at least some of their influence, and will at the least have to build new relationships with buyable republicans. It won't stop them, but it will put a serious kink in their tails, and it will give the DOJ time to arrange something for them...It isn't over with trump, it isn't over after the 1/6 trials, it isn't even over with purging the supreme court...It's over when at least the ten or twelve worst entitled rich traitors pushing fascism are publicly broken...
Trump has never been the cause of anything except stupidity and suffering, he doesn't have the mental capacity to do anything more complicated than grift off of the stupid.
The dark money doesn't have a worldwide plot, they're mostly people who have a talent for making money, and a love of racism, a desire to go back to the days when their feudal baronies weren't threatened by that annoying democracy thing, and women and black people knew how to be good, obedient slaves...
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printer

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Supreme Court sends back Ohio redistricting case
The Supreme Court on Friday sent an Ohio redistricting case back to the state’s top court, in light of a decision it delivered earlier this week on a similar case in North Carolina.

Ohio Republicans had appealed to the nation’s highest court after several sets of congressional maps had been tossed out last cycle by the Ohio Supreme Court, though the officials didn’t have enough time to implement news ones.

Ohio Republicans had sought to have their case upheld by the Supreme Court, using the “independent state legislature theory,” which claims that state legislatures to have near-total control over how federal elections are handled and how congressional maps are drawn.

But the Supreme Court quashed a similar case Tuesday where Republicans in North Carolina used the theory as reason for readopting Republican-drawn congressional lines that had been struck down by the state Supreme Court ahead of the 2022 midterms.

The developments are noteworthy given North Carolina and Ohio are among some of the country’s last swing states — though they’ve trended more heavily Republican in recent election cycles — and a ruling in favor of the “independent state legislature theory” would have helped solidify the states as more solidly Republican.
 

printer

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Roberts takes aim at liberal justices in defending Supreme Court’s legitimacy
Chief Justice John Roberts’s majority opinion striking down the Biden administration’s student debt relief plan ended with a note taking aim at the court’s liberal justices in defending the Supreme Court’s legitimacy.

Justice Elena Kagan authored the liberal justices’ dissent in the court’s final opinion of the term, delivering a blistering rebuttal to the court striking down the student debt plan, disagreeing on the merits of the case and whether the challengers had authority to sue in the first place.

“In every respect, the Court today exceeds its proper, limited role in our Nation’s governance,” Kagan wrote.
Roberts, in response, took issue with Kagan’s take.

“It has become a disturbing feature of some recent opinions to criticize the decisions with which they disagree as going beyond the proper role of the judiciary,” Roberts wrote.

The decision marked the final opinion of the court’s annual term, a year that followed the high court striking down constitutional abortion protections by overturning Roe v. Wade last June.

Public approval of the court plummeted in the wake of the abortion decision, which was revealed in an extraordinary leak of the draft majority opinion. In the year since, the court has also faced several ethics scandals involving the justices, leading Democrats to push for an outside intervention to require the court to adopt a binding code of ethics.

Kagan’s dissent was joined by fellow liberal Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson. Kagan read portions of her dissent aloud from the bench, a rare occurrence that signals the significance of the justices’ disagreement.

“Reasonable minds may disagree with our analysis — in fact, at least three do,” Roberts wrote in his student debt decision, referencing the dissent.

“We do not mistake this plainly heartfelt disagreement for disparagement,” he continued. “It is important that the public not be misled either. Any such misperception would be harmful to this institution and our country.”
Kagan, who has a reputation for consensus building on the high court, had warned on several occasions after the abortion decision that the court was risking its legitimacy.

“So in a case not a case, the majority overrides the combined judgment of the Legislative and Executive Branches, with the consequence of eliminating loan forgiveness for 43 million Americans,” she wrote in the student debt case.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/more-clarence-thomas-undisclosed-freebies-rich-1234785233/

Uncle thomas may have to murder someone in the street to get anyone to do a fucking thing about him. He and Alito both have some fucking questions to answer.
If the democrats can win useful congressional majorities in 24, they could be impeached, or at least impeachment investigations could be held, and subpoenas issued for public hearings. Thomas could be "encouraged" to retire before it got too embarrassing for him or dangerous to his billionaire benefactor. Alto gets the same treatment they do it twice, once during the impeachment investigation in the house and then again for hearings on new legislation governing the court. Don't just pack the court, clean it out too and all the justices extra unreported perks and lies during confirmation will be investigated. Guys like Leond Leo, Crow and others should be hauled in to testify too, after being investigated. Win useful majorities in 24 and many things will be suddenly possible, including the above.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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If the democrats can win useful congressional majorities in 24, they could be impeached, or at least impeachment investigations could be held, and subpoenas issued for public hearings. Thomas could be "encouraged" to retire before it got too embarrassing for him or dangerous to his billionaire benefactor. Alto gets the same treatment they do it twice, once during the impeachment investigation in the house and then again for hearings on new legislation governing the court. Don't just pack the court, clean it out too and all the justices extra unreported perks and lies during confirmation will be investigated. Guys like Leond Leo, Crow and others should be hauled in to testify too, after being investigated. Win useful majorities in 24 and many things will be suddenly possible, including the above.
Yeah, well, that's the trick. We're certainly going to try, but we have plenty of people working against us. We need to get shit nailed down before they can steal more state legislatures.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Yeah, well, that's the trick. We're certainly going to try, but we have plenty of people working against us. We need to get shit nailed down before they can steal more state legislatures.
The republicans appear to be helping with their own demise especially in the states with fascist laws, Kevin's house is helping federally and of course Donald is helping to destroy the GOP most of all. If they win the democrats will need to deal with the assholes as a constitutional duty, not out of malice, but as a matter of republic's survival. Things like HR1, voting rights and media reform would be on the agenda as well as the judicial reform, if the democrats can win useful majorities. They will also keep hammering away at J6 and issue a final report after the dust settles in court a bit, then base new law on the findings.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/sonia-sotomayor-ethics-book-supreme-court-rcna93864

I really don't like it when this kind of story pops up...Now i have to go do a load of looking into this shit.
It actually seems pretty minor, compared to the shit clearance-rack clarence is doing, but it still shouldn't be happening, if it is.
Pay them a million a year and a pension, but no outside income or favors, everything is reported, 9 million is fuck all for an entire branch of government and considering the US budget...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Pay them a million a year and a pension, but no outside income or favors, everything is reported, 9 million is fuck all for an entire branch of government and considering the US budget...
They get $285K a year, and they already get FULL PAY at time of retirement for life...and they have a $90+ million "discretionary fund " to play with while on the bench...

https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/fy_2021_supreme_court.pdf

https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/salaries-for-members-of-congress-supreme-court-justices-and-the-president

https://www.thoughtco.com/us-supreme-court-retirement-benefits-3322414

I don't think they need a raise, I think they need a mandatory ethics refresher every year...
 
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