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jeff f

New Member
As far as them linig up at 4 am. If the laws were enforced therer would not be scores of Illegals out in front of Home depots or lining up for jobs because the employers will lose their licenses
thats all fine and good but where i live, if you advertise for workers you couldnt fill a phone booth with applicants. the parasite mentality isnt with mexicans or illegals. its with americans. americans who have been taught how to play the "system".

we have a system called "housing authority" whose employees are responsible for mowing lawns and changing lightbulbs in govmnt housing. yes you heard me, they get subsidized housing and we (the taxpayers) employ people to cut their lawn.

tell me thats not F'ed up. a hard working kid out of highschool has to work his balls off to be able to afford a lawn mower, and these parasites get their house and lawn mowed for free along with their food paid for and get a money to catch a cab to go to college.....thats fucked up. by the way, these things arent made up. they are real things that are paid for by the high school kid trying to get ahead.

i will take an illegal willing to get up and stand in front of home depot and look for work, over the scumbags that are leaching the lifeblood out of our country.

and i would take the parasite over any politician who thinks that the above scenario is acceptable and needs to be expanded.
 

raverguy

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> > The shoe is on the other foot and the Mexicans from the State of Sonora, Mexico don't like it. Can you believe the nerve of these people? It's almost funny. The State of Sonora is angry at the influx of Mexicans into Mexico . Nine state legislators from the Mexican State of Sonora traveled to Tucson to complain about Arizona 's new employer crackdown on illegals from Mexico .
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> > A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to state that Arizona 's new Employer Sanctions Law will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state.
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> > At a news conference, the legislators said that Sonora, - Arizona's southern neighbor, - made up of mostly small towns, - cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools that it will face as Mexican workers return to their hometowns from the USA without jobs or money.
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> > The Arizona law, which took effect Jan. 1, punishes Arizona employers who knowingly hire individuals without valid legal documents to work in the United States . Penalties include suspension of, or loss of, their business license.
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1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
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2. All ballots will be in this nation's language..
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3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
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4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
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5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office
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6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.
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7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
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8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
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9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
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10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted and when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.
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The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!

America used to be known as the home of ALL freedom loving people. at least that is what i was lead to believe.
people escaping political/religious/ethnical persecutions could come here and live the "dream"

is the American dream dead or dying? only for natural born citizens? light skinned natural born citizens? whites?

btw, i think that mexico has those rules to keep people from further south getting to the US. thus only allowing its citizens the "better" chance at getting to the us and then sending back money.




Mexico on the other hand...
 

raverguy

Well-Known Member
yeah, that's exactly what i said. :roll:


i mowed lawns when i was kid.
it was implied.

most crops in America have been tended by those groups mentioned before.

or u can build robots (look to the future) dont think the average American would want to get a job in the fields anyways.... although they would prob be built in china. guess importing is great, just not immigration.
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
even if that was true it would be easly solved with a guest worker program


allows said guest workers to live in the country with dignety in the light of day rather than living in the shadows illigally holding all your assests in your matress making you an easy target for robbery


 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
i think there are a lot of americans that wouldn't mind any kind of job right now.

and no, it was NOT implied. you made that part up yourself.

pretty silly to think ONLY an illegal will perform certain jobs.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
not that silly considering their working conditions and wages, plus the complacency of so many Americans. can a californian tell me what the deal is with these 'congress created dustbowl' signs? just cureous
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
not that silly considering their working conditions and wages, plus the complacency of so many Americans. can a californian tell me what the deal is with these 'congress created dustbowl' signs? just cureous

americans pay cheap illegal laborers because they can. we'd do it if we "had to". but why, when we can pay a mexican a buck to do it instead? seems nothing but logical to me.

now that the economy has changed i bet more americans are willing to mow lawns.

stereotype much? i have no idea of these signs one speaks of.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i'm not sure what i'm stereotyping, but yeah, i would do farm labor in a minute. fresh air, working outdoors, work while blazed...sounds like a dream even at min wage.

oh, i looked into those signs. i'll not sidetrack the thread with what i found
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
i'm not sure what i'm stereotyping, but yeah, i would do farm labor in a minute. fresh air, working outdoors, work while blazed...sounds like a dream even at min wage.

oh, i looked into those signs. i'll not sidetrack the thread with what i found


you gotta tell us now curiousity is a bitch
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
i'm not sure what i'm stereotyping, but yeah, i would do farm labor in a minute. fresh air, working outdoors, work while blazed...sounds like a dream even at min wage.

oh, i looked into those signs. i'll not sidetrack the thread with what i found



i assumed you were referring to me being from calofornia so therefore i should automatically know. my mistake. bongsmilie

so yes, please do explain. :)
 

TheDemocrat

Active Member
BUT!!!! who the fuck wants to go to arizona anyway....
you can go in any restaurant on w. indian rd. in phoenix and find illegals working. until you enforce the law and do something about employers hiring illegals the problem will only get worse.
 

jcdws602

Well-Known Member
i'm not sure what i'm stereotyping, but yeah, i would do farm labor in a minute. fresh air, working outdoors, work while blazed...sounds like a dream even at min wage.

oh, i looked into those signs. i'll not sidetrack the thread with what i found
Yeah.....spend a summer in phoenix,az........110-115 degree f. weather.....you 'll see how fresh the air is.........
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Yeah.....spend a summer in phoenix,az........110-115 degree f. weather.....you 'll see how fresh the air is.........
vegas and havasu are just as hot if not ho9tter, which is why people who work outrdoors work early and quitting time is before the heat of the day. it feels likea hot air dryer to drive through in the summer...horrible

the damn signs are about a fish, a drought, the food chain, and lots of lawyers. basically they can't turn the water on for the farmes without endangeruing some fish citical to the food chain and ths fishermen. google 'congress created dustbowl' and you will find some good lulz thanks to the most trusted name in news
 

kendothegreenwizard

Active Member
BUT!!!! who the fuck wants to go to arizona anyway....
you can go in any restaurant on w. indian rd. in phoenix and find illegals working. until you enforce the law and do something about employers hiring illegals the problem will only get worse.
The Arizona law provides stiff penalties for Employers who hire Illegals.
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
they turned off the water to save a fish, if they say the fish is a critical part of the food chain, they are lying


let the fish die and be extinct, let the farmers have thier livelihoods back,
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
or find somewhere more suitable to grow. :wink:
ya but they would have to start all over from scratch cuz the government says a 2 inch fish is more important them

they wouldnt be able to sell thier farm land and move somwhere else since they cut off the water
 
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