Super mini plants (update)

7Luiji7

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if you got mold on the top of your soil it means you need more air circulation get a fan blowing under the plants
im going to do the scrape, replace and dry thing - if this doesnt work ill be forced to grab another fan as an exhaust. i really hope ninja this works!
 

Ninjabowler

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im going to do the scrape, replace and dry thing - if this doesnt work ill be forced to grab another fan as an exhaust. i really hope ninja this works!
Another option is removing some leaves for better air movement, im hoping it doesnt come to this, dry em out and you should be fine. Do you think you were over watering?
 

7Luiji7

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Another option is removing some leaves for better air movement, im hoping it doesnt come to this, dry em out and you should be fine. Do you think you were over watering?
i honestly know i was over watering but everything seemed to be going perfect so i figured all is well... i guess i needed this happen to know 100%. ps. i just removed all ( or what i thought was all the mold i could see) , doing this i aciddentally ripped off one of the roots of the smaller plant ( im sure it wasnt the whole root ) but it was almost 2 inches ( just 1 ) didnt think they were that high up in the the soil. but all the top loose soil i removed every bit i could. and replaced it with some more promix nice and fresh on top, im not gunna water it at all. im praying to god this works. but what about that root will it harm my plant ??
 

7Luiji7

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Another option is removing some leaves for better air movement, im hoping it doesnt come to this, dry em out and you should be fine. Do you think you were over watering?
i seem to be removing leaves every day or other day ( the bottom small ones on the bigger plant) sometimes on the smaller one too i guess they get no light down there. and im pretty sure i also burnt my plant twice ( both the times i used the flowering nutes ) LOL ya im a noob so what! trial and error, there still glowing and doing great but i could see the spots on the leaves where they took damage. im glad actually alot of stuff is happening now. at least i know how to deal with it in the future. god i love this hobby! ive wanted to do it for so many years!
 

7Luiji7

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also - i last watered on the 15th ( 4 cups w/teaspoon of fox farm big bloom for the big one ) and (3 cups w/ just under a teaspoon for the small one) . no water yesterday, and no water today. the pot was still soaked just over 3/4's still ( both of them ) so im assuming maybe 2 more days at least. im sure i wont have to wait this long again between waters.. as theyve been accumulating for so long. right?
 

Ninjabowler

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also - i last watered on the 15th ( 4 cups w/teaspoon of fox farm big bloom for the big one ) and (3 cups w/ just under a teaspoon for the small one) . no water yesterday, and no water today. the pot was still soaked just over 3/4's still ( both of them ) so im assuming maybe 2 more days at least. im sure i wont have to wait this long again between waters.. as theyve been accumulating for so long. right?
Ya, at least, i was wrong about my pots, i think theyre about two litres, watering every 4/5 days....think about how much less water they hold.
 

7Luiji7

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Ya, at least, i was wrong about my pots, i think theyre about two litres, watering every 4/5 days....think about how much less water they hold.
ya holy dude. haha at the beginning i under watered the shit out of them too, unbelievable ! LOL. but dude - ive been doing some reading, everyone is saying that it will come back by just doing what im doing ( in a few days) , theres remedies out there like mixing equal parts vinegar and water in a spary bottle that will kill the mold. but chagne the ph ! ( i dont have a meter so this is a huge problem but seems to be a great fix) and also ive heard cinamon srpinkled over the top soil as it is a natural fungicide but would this chagne ph or do any changes to nything ??? or just eliminate the mold and then i could flush away the cinamon in a few days?
 

Ninjabowler

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ya holy dude. haha at the beginning i under watered the shit out of them too, unbelievable ! LOL. but dude - ive been doing some reading, everyone is saying that it will come back by just doing what im doing ( in a few days) , theres remedies out there like mixing equal parts vinegar and water in a spary bottle that will kill the mold. but chagne the ph ! ( i dont have a meter so this is a huge problem but seems to be a great fix) and also ive heard cinamon srpinkled over the top soil as it is a natural fungicide but would this chagne ph or do any changes to nything ??? or just eliminate the mold and then i could flush away the cinamon in a few days?
The ph of vinegar is about three. Cinamon could work because of fungacidal properties, its natural, probably alkaline. But your killin me with that flush word. Adding extra water at any point should be the farthest thing from your mind for the rest of the grow. If you start thinking about flushing do this, start trying to get an old fridge and a small hps light for cheap or free. You could gut the fridge and toss a light in there. Then look on riu for a gram a watt. 250 watt hps...250 gr.....oh ya! Just whatever you do dont think about water. That dirt should be light as a feather next time water crosses your mind, or my eyes...capish?
 

7Luiji7

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The ph of vinegar is about three. Cinamon could work because of fungacidal properties, its natural, probably alkaline. But your killin me with that flush word. Adding extra water at any point should be the farthest thing from your mind for the rest of the grow. If you start thinking about flushing do this, start trying to get an old fridge and a small hps light for cheap or free. You could gut the fridge and toss a light in there. Then look on riu for a gram a watt. 250 watt hps...250 gr.....oh ya! Just whatever you do dont think about water. That dirt should be light as a feather next time water crosses your mind, or my eyes...capish?
so id dilute the vinegar prob 1 part vinegar 3 parts water leaving me with ph about +1.. wont effect much right? will this go back after a few waters.. and i know im not going to go over water the plants again - its a 1 time error homie. and upgrading to anything new/bigger is out of my league atm. i wanna get through this one succesfully before i even think about that. i would like to know more about the cinnamon, and the only reason i say flush is like to get that shit out of the soil.. i dont mean use cinamon then water the day after completely... obviously let it dry out as much as it needs to then do regular waters from then on. but will that eventually clear up the soil is what im asking? or will some sort of cinnamon still be left in my soil.. and will me buds be affected?? if so .. im asuming it would taste better ?hahaha
 

Ninjabowler

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so id dilute the vinegar prob 1 part vinegar 3 parts water leaving me with ph about +1.. wont effect much right? will this go back after a few waters.. and i know im not going to go over water the plants again - its a 1 time error homie. and upgrading to anything new/bigger is out of my league atm. i wanna get through this one succesfully before i even think about that. i would like to know more about the cinnamon, and the only reason i say flush is like to get that shit out of the soil.. i dont mean use cinamon then water the day after completely... obviously let it dry out as much as it needs to then do regular waters from then on. but will that eventually clear up the soil is what im asking? or will some sort of cinnamon still be left in my soil.. and will me buds be affected?? if so .. im asuming it would taste better ?hahaha
Id just let it dry out. If the mould comes back then try stickin wierd stuff in the soil. But until it comes back i wouldnt stick wierd stuff in there. I know i wouldnt like it if someone sqirted vinegar in my eye for no reason, but if it was the cure for reoccurring atheletes foot id give it a try. I dont have atheletes foot by the way. Yur on easy street now. Just watchem finnish. This part is the worst because it seems like it takes forever for the buds to form, then it takes forever for them to get big. Mark my words, youll ask me if theyre not going fast enough. Youll say,"ninja, i dont think that theyre going to produce, theyre moving to slow", and then ill say,"i told you so". You probably wont be happy untill the day before you cut them down. Youll go to sleep with the anticipation of a kid that has his first tooth under his pillow. And when your weighing it up dry, if you dont smoke it all wet, youll say, damn, maybe i need a bigger light for this. I got one of my veg lights from craigslist for 25 bucks. You can get a 250 watt hps used for probly 150 bucks. Itll take up less room than those clunkers an do way more for ya. And you wont have to worry about movin it up or down cause it has enough power. Id also be willing to bet that it puts out about as much heat as what your runnin. If your shortmon funds theres always fandangelin, one mans trash is another mans treasure. My light was from an demolition. Think about it.
 

7Luiji7

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ill dry it out for sure first and lol at the rest ! ill take a look in to the lighting i thought those 100+ watt lights come with the big reflector case thing you need to put it in... i didnt no you could just have them out like that. and my lights really dont give off alot of heat, i heard those hps lights are wicked with the heat. ps. would 150 watt hps be waaaaay better than 4 , 42 watt cfls?
 

7Luiji7

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also, i know the first sign of budding will be just pistils,, will the occur through most of the whole budding ? and then the last few week maybe they start forming?? i dk how that all works haha i just ever smoked the damn thing
 

Ninjabowler

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Thatll show you the power. The heat youll have to deal with. You could probably make a cool tube. If you look online and make some calls, you can find yourself a round piece of glass if you dont want to spend 50 bucks on amazon. I dont know why you arent just doing this in your closet like every one else.
 

7Luiji7

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Thatll show you the power. The heat youll have to deal with. You could probably make a cool tube. If you look online and make some calls, you can find yourself a round piece of glass if you dont want to spend 50 bucks on amazon. I dont know why you arent just doing this in your closet like every one else.
thanks for the chart dude ill look in to it, and man - its stealth for a reason i gotta keep it as small as i do. thats not my issue tho, i know its possible to grow what i need in that box, just a matter of how long itll take to produce what i want!
 

Ninjabowler

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also, i know the first sign of budding will be just pistils,, will the occur through most of the whole budding ? and then the last few week maybe they start forming?? i dk how that all works haha i just ever smoked the damn thing
Pistils form, then more pistils and more untill theres a ball of pistils. Then green buds start to form under the pistils, then the buds get bigger and bigger untill they start touching and join together ( if your genitics are good ) otherwise theyll just make theyre own nugs where ever you see pistils forming. Somewhere in there the tricombes start forming and the buds begin to swell. Once theyre swollen up nice and plump the pistils start to retract and turn orange rather than white, then youll have a big ol weed woody. Yup all those sites where you see pistils forming and probly the ones you dont even see them at yet will all produce bud. Some real small and fluffy but others will have nice bigginz. The first two weeks is the hardest. Well actually week three. The first two weeks they start showing pistils in different spots and these spots grow. Week three is when the green buds start forming under pistils. Theyre harder to see so it feels like your stalled out. After that the buds just start getting bigger and covering up with tricombes. This is the best time, well seeing it the bag is probly better.
 

7Luiji7

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ps. those hps bulb are absolutley enormous, and the way my box works it hangs from the top , i dont think that would work
 

Ninjabowler

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thanks for the chart dude ill look in to it, and man - its stealth for a reason i gotta keep it as small as i do. thats not my issue tho, i know its possible to grow what i need in that box, just a matter of how long itll take to produce what i want!
It should always take the same time if your giving water and nutes when they need it. It is almost impossible to speed up flowering time. Thats determined by the plant. You can slow it down if you chill your plants or stress em real bad but you cant make it faster. The only thing that you can really manipulate time wise is the veg time. Next time your plants will grow faster because youll add N rich nutes at the begining when your supposed to and theyll grow twice as big in half the time. Also, you can save yourself the hassle of sprouting males if you just get clones from your buddys plants. But the bottom line is that flowering time is set in stone on your budget unless you make it longer by fn everything up lol
 
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