Sun damage?

Critical Canuck

Active Member
I have two small GSC clones that I was gifted. They had mites and I treated them with insecticidal soap. Moved them out of the sun to dry but someone put them back out with wet leaves after I rinsed them off.

Anyway, is this likely just damage from the hot sun yesterday? Should I leave the burnt leaves or remove them? I need to treat again in a couple of days to be sure I got the mites, I’ll make sure it stays out of the sun until completely dry.
I’m assuming they will recover.
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Infurnoman

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I havent gotten sunburn like that before, maybe they reacted badly to the spray? I could be totally wrong though as I'm no expert lol
 

Kassiopeija

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You mean the brightening up at the new growth? thats normal... actually the dark green leaves are in a state of nute abundancy.... check @Mr. Cheetah s grow journal to see plants in a perfect state of nutrition balance.

PS.
if these were spidermites keep these plants out of your groom and never underestimate them, even months away they may come back
 

Mr. Cheetah

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You mean the brightening up at the new growth? thats normal... actually the dark green leaves are in a state of nute abundancy.... check @Mr. Cheetah s grow journal to see plants in a perfect state of nutrition balance.

PS.
if these were spidermites keep these plants out of your groom and never underestimate them, even months away they may come back
Wow, thanks for that, greatly appreciated! Actually got some signs of Cal/mag deficiency, but I'll get on top of that, it's half way thru flowering, so I guess I shouldn't be bothered that much. Thanks again!
 

Critical Canuck

Active Member
No risk of them coming inside, they're outdoors and away from my other outdoor plants.
The tops look ok, ,but there are crispy brown curled up leaves in the middle/bottom and even some of the better leaves still have some brown edges.
I'm just wondering if after rinsing the plants and put in the sun if this would cause this kind of burn? I know watering in full sun kills grass so I'm trying to determine if this is what is happening here.

As for the soap it's just simple home-made dawn dish soap in water.
Here's a little bit closer up view with arrows to point at the damage. This damage all happened since yesterday

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Mr. Cheetah

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well, never rinse your plants under the sun bwoy, water is like magnifying glass. the small white spots however speaks that you've got some nasty bloodsuckin' mofos there. im curently on a war with all kind of this creatures, deeply regret buying loupe to see whats out there. suggest using some quality shit to get rid of them. you are in a better position than me, your plant is still not flowering, so you have countless options to kill the bastards. i would deff recommend pyrethrum insecticide, quite expensive tbh, but for small grows is ok, can last long imo. good luck
 

Dark_Hatchling

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Several weeks ago, I sprayed a neem oil and soap mix on my outdoor plants. I burned the shit out of them, it looked similar to those pictures. I also destroyed a bunch of my tomato and pepper plant leafs with that batch of neem and soap.

Be careful on how/what/when you spray crap on them. I'm still scared to put anything on mine...
 

Kassiopeija

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One of the basic problems with oil-based products is that it'll clogg the stomatas and prevent the plant from taking CO2 in... then photosynthesis is happening with O2 instead - which is resulting in a toxic substance, a radical O3 that damages the leaves from within... plants actually clear this during the night phase, but mite damage actually takes also a heavy toll from loosing a ton of sugars & starches; and else...

Some of the wrinkled leaves appear to be caused by a low Potassium count... (Potassium regulates water), some of the chlorosis shown at the bottom leaves maybe due the plant trying to recycle some of the substances of the most damaged leaves... you clearly see a correlation between aggravated mite-damage & the weakness of some leaves.

When leaves grow under the sun then usually they cannot be bleached by light becuase they already grow with secondairy metabolites that counter the suns destructive rays. I once vegged indoor plants under incandescants (absolutely no blue or UV) and had them placed outdoors - ALL leaves bleached to completely white within two days and all fell off, but the new growth was fine... even though the days went longer...

The good news is that the new growth of your plant comes out fine... but mites are serious trouble.....

You need to use a number of stuff to keep them low... Diatomacious Earth... PotassiumSoap Wash... Vaccuum Cleaner... if you go the insectizide-route - use 2-3 different chemicals... I once used only one (ROGOR - now strictly forbidden here) but they would always come back... or get Predators... depending on what kind of mite it is... striping of leaves also helps.. if you got good sun, the new leaves grow back in now time... Spidermites don't damage roots so that's one strength the plant retains here... also keep it happy of course... and strengthen its immune system with Chitosan... and use hormones & steroids (Alpha Boost & Pechnelkenextract) to increase it's growth .... BAC/ Vertimec also helps... with Diatomacious Earth/ Kieselgur you can also dust the whole plant for the night, but wash away once the sun sets, but keep the topsoil covered... also shaking expanded clay balls in Diatomacious Earth/Kieselgur and put that on top is going to prevent the entrance of alot of suckers like gnats, too....

Hope this helps you further out :weed:
 

Kassiopeija

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BTW canyou put that plant also together with other plants out in the fields? sometimes then natural enemies prevent them from reaching out of proportion numbers.... lots of plant pests is because of isolated plant grow methods
 

JimmiP

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Yeah, they (as they were gifted) probably just moved outside. Dont sweat it. They will be fine. Just put them in partial sun for a few days.

And spraying/ rinsing them with water, and having them in the sun won't burn them either. If just water did that, none of our plants would make it through all the intermittent daytime showers they see through a season.
Good luck friend!
 

doug mirabelli

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I believe it was the soap spray that burned them a little. I have done it in the past with the same results never did it again
 

Corso312

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Spider mites are pretty easy to eradicate. Take the plant and soak it upside down in a large container filled with soapy sudsy water..I use dawn dish soap, depending on the size of the plant I usually use a 40 gallon garbage can filled up. After a 15 minute soak I rinse the plant off ( still upside down) then I rinse the plant off again right side up. Let the plant dry off for an hour and repeat the soak in a new soapy solution.
 
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