Suggestions for first indoor

fssalaska

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First indoor grow [FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Pyramid Seeds Northern Lights low smell short plant and forgiving with good yield and 15 to 18 % THC. best of luck[/FONT]
 

Jbone77

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I feed 1 gallon every other day in a 3.5 gallon bucket start to finish. When I first started using them a couple years back I fed less frequently and had a few problems, nothing major but still, a few problems. Feeding 1 gallon every other day iv had better growth and no issues. I dont use coco, pure perlite. The coco guys have their tricks to keep everything happy, im just lazy and dont feel like dealing with it. Perlite produces just fine for me and is reuseable and doesnt retain shit. Straight water last 10 days or so. Im not trying to talk you out of your drip feed by any means, thats what your building so run it, gotta start somewhere
 

Raul Brigante

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So you would recommend feeding every other day rather than every day? Aside from the Lucas formula, do you use Additives or need to compensate for Calcium/Magnesium like in coco? Couldn't find much info regarding Ph in 100% perlite. Also, do you flush at all?

I'm getting more into the Hempy, cause raising the tent to fit a 145L tank underneath seems to take a lot out of the "stealth" value. And also because I don't have to worry about moving them to another system for budding.
 

Jbone77

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Just use your GH micro and bloom and get some of their calimagic. Will produce great. I feed every time but you gotta get some good runoff to flush it out. I mix up my nutes in a gallon of distilled water the night before, wake up and ph it to 5.8 and let it sit for an hr and feed. I do that every other day and dont flush until the last 10 or so days. As long as your getting good runoff you shouldnt have a salt build up
 

Raul Brigante

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Ok sounds good. How much nutes do you go through each grow per plant, roughly? I guess nutes go faster than with other hydros.
 

Jbone77

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You would think so but you really dont. Add your planned veg time to your estimated flower time and subtract 10 for flush, divide that by 2 for your feed days, if your growing with cfl's or less than 400 watt hid multiply that # by 5 for your micro total and by 10 for your bloom total, if your using a 400 watt hid or bigger multiply that number by 8 for your micro total and 16 for your bloom total. Follow me?
 

Raul Brigante

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Very nice, thanks. I'm considering the Hempy for this grow, the more you pushed for it the more I looked into it. I'm looking at ballasts right now, I might just get a 400W for flower and a 125w CFL for veg. Thanks for all the info, it's been great input.
 

Raul Brigante

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Do you think a 2gal hempy is enough to slow veg a mother? I got a nice small resin closet that I'd like to use as a veg room to keep a couple mothers and clones but it's only 90cm tall...
 

Indoor Sun King

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the key to hempy is to allow it to get dry (feather light)....so that may take from 1 to 3 days depending on size of bucket, temps, plant size. etc....

I mix up a gallon and pour into 6 glass jars which will last me 6 days....this is not ideal but I've had no issues if stored in glass jars... the mixture would start to smell bad after 4 days if stored in plastic jars
 

Jbone77

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I wouldnt recommend keeping a mother in any hempy bucket. Yeah you can do it & people do it all the time but why? The main benefit of a hempy bucket is its an easy hydro method, main benefit of hydro in general is increased growth rate. I dont want a mother to grow fast and I dont want to have to mess with her much so I use dirt and flouros. If your planning a commercial grow where you need a ton of cuttings id understand it but to just keep a perpetual garden going I dont see the point.
 

Raul Brigante

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I see what you mean, Hydro is meant to be fast growth. But in a 7L pot at 1/4 strength nutes and LST it might be manageable to keep up to 4 Sativa-Dominant Mums and very few clones in that 60x70x90cm cabinet. I know for sure it can be done in soil but I have no clue if a 7L hempy is a healthy option for long term, mostly due to Ph bouncing up and down in such a small pot. I've been checking Bonsai techniques, or more like trimming techniques, to keep mothers small. Won't run a perpetual flowering room but the appeal of indoor, to me, is being able to keep mothers year long and run the flowering-room only when I need to. Not aiming for 5 crops a year or anything like that, just enough quality smoke. Yield isn't much concern neither. I know the Strain from outdoor and I know its potential indoor, so I'd rather have 1 plant in flower and make sure I get the best quality out of that one.
 

Jbone77

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This is what I would do with the set up you were talking about in your 1st post, i dont know all the details so im just throwing it out there. Id get a 5 pack of fem seeds of the strain you want and put 1 in a 5 gallon hempy and put that in your small closet under your 125w cfl and train it to a horizontal scrog until you get the clones you need and veg and flower those in the tent. While your clones are vegging and flowering keep weaving your mother thru that scrog until its full and then onto the walls in a vertical scrog. When the first set of clones finish up, take more and move them to the tent and then flower the mom in the closet where she is. Thats how id do it but thats just me
 

Raul Brigante

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Ok here's a brief update of where things stand right now.

I've seeded days apart in Rockwell over perlite in a domed propagator for about 8 days depending on seedlings. The strains are 3x Sleeskunk, 2x White Widow (f) and 2x Delahaze (f). So far so good as far as germination rate, aside from a Widow seed that just melted within a couple days (surely a mistake of mine).

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I've tranplanted the 3x Sleeskunk and 1x W. Widow in 10x10x17cm pots with Biomix Light soil (I also got a bag of Plagron Growmix for re-potting). As of right now, just waiting for more pots of the same size to transplant the 2x Delahaze and a decent fan.

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The plan so far is to grow this as mother plants, unless the three Sleeskunk turn out to be males, and keep them short in a bonsai fashion so I can hold at least four in the small Mother Room I've built, which is only 60x30x75cm. They stretched quite a bit so I buried them deep enough in the pots to keep heights manageable and induce stronger root mass (I think).

In such a small space, even the 125W CFL warms up the "room" by at least 2/3ºC. I hooked a 10cm duct fan on one side to exhaust the warm air and cut a 125cm intake on the opposite lower side where the fan is pulling cool air in. I haven't bothered too much with light proofing at this point since it's often required to leave at least one door semi-open while the light is on, to keep the tº at 25ºc. The cabinet is in a living room right now where the tº reaches 26º at time, so it's a good idea to check the environment tº during each seasons to adjust the climate control of your grow room accordingly.

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At this point, the plants didn't receive any nutrients. The leafs are deep green and plants look healthy, so no need to push them. Once the 2x Delahaze are transplanted (hopefully by tomorrow) I will wait for them to stabilize and grow a few more nods before starting to feed them all a half-strength or even quarter-strength solution.

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After that, waiting time oblige before taking cuttings and sexing the Sleeskunks. I was wondering if 1 or 2 26W CFL per plant would do the job for sexing cuttings?

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