Sugar Blossom, Rubbermaid/CFL, Second Grow

yeldarb

yeldarb

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Hey everyone, I figured I may as well begin a grow journal for my second grow, it helps keep track of progress and what not.

So I just finished up my first grow with the following results:





I was pretty pleased with the results, the smoke is awesome and has gotten better every week (Currently 4 week of curing). I figured my first setup worked so rather than change it up and go for hps etc I'd keep going with what I used first time. I'll learn from the mistakes I made in the first grow and tings should work out.

So for setup:






I have 120 watts of 6500k cfls for veg, and 160 watts of 2700k cfls for flowering.

I used the last of my miracle grow soil /w time released nutes for my smaller pots. When I transfer to their final homes I plan on using MG Organic choice so I will have more control over the nutes the plants receive.

I germinated via paper towel for 2 days and then place in soil under 40w of light. They broke ground May 21 -Here s a pic



So I am at 9 days at the moment and the seedlings have their three point set of leaves in with the next on the way.

Pics probably tomorrow.

Comments welcome:joint::joint:

Question: Do you guys wait to LST until the plants are in their final pots? If not, how do you transfer the string etc to the next pot?
 
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jtalo11

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can you get your temp up a little, root's temp is about 5-20 degrees lower then the outside temp and 50 is low for me. i like to keep it around 70 all the time after alot of mistake but i was growimg in a real small place form seed. i had about 2hx1.5ft dand 3ft L. your buds look's good.
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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jtalo11 said:
can you get your temp up a little, root's temp is about 5-20 degrees lower then the outside temp and 50 is low for me. i like to keep it around 70 all the time after alot of mistake but i was growimg in a real small place form seed. i had about 2hx1.5ft dand 3ft L. your buds look's good.
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Hey jtalo, yeah that pic and the other showing the rubbermaid are just recycled ones from my first grow. I had real problems dealing with low temps in my first grow (like 5C when the lights were off...in a basemen). I had it pretty well worked out near the last half of flowering.

Right now my temps are ranging from 26-29 C with the lights on and 12-15C with the lights off.
 
yeldarb

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UserFriendly said:
You can supercrop and tie the plant to itself. Are you going to get clones this time? :razz:
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I saw a video of a guy doing super cropping, looks like it might take some practice to get the bending right.

I was planning on building a dual cab for my second grow, but I figured it worked last time so I didn't build it. I want to use up my sugar blossom seeds and than move on to some other genetics so that was another reason to not take clones.
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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DAY 10

Switched from 24 hours lighting to 19/5 two days ago. I read a post one time I think that said that 19/5 provided the best results but I forget where.

Couple of pics:







So far at ten days they have only had 1 full watering. I've been giving several sprays from a water bottle every other day. They started to stretch a little, but when I put in the rest of lights (40 to 120W) the internode spacing tightened up. (I didn't want to have too much lights/heat for the new seedlings before they could handle it)
 
greenfirekilla420

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Ya don't LST till they are in their final pots. Bro you should so top one of your plants and make a little circle bush of colas. You'll probably get a whole lot more this time around. Anyways looks great and I'm subscribed.

:leaf:Peace:leaf:
 
btt

btt

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Only 1 full watering in 10 days? Wow, you have great patience my friend. I would be scared they would die! Guess your soil holds water very well...
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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DAY 12

Nothing much to note. They are both growing well, almost identical rates. At the rate they are going the first 5 point set of leaves should be completely in by the weekend. I will be transplanting so time over the weekend, then I plan on giving it a few days to recover before I began training. I might start giving like 10% of the recommended dose of nutes once the LST begins. I didn't give any last grow and by the time flowering came around some of my leaves were beginning to look yellow ( N def I think). I figure 10-25% of the recommended dosage should keep the plants happy until flowering time.

[edit] Man I just noticed how dirty my rubbermaid is getting after seeing the perfectly white pics from my first grow. I need to clean that thing out.

Here is a comparison shot of DAY 10 to 12:





Here are the rest of DAY 12 shots:







 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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greenfirekilla420 said:
Ya don't LST till they are in their final pots. Bro you should so top one of your plants and make a little circle bush of colas. You'll probably get a whole lot more this time around. Anyways looks great and I'm subscribed.

:leaf:Peace:leaf:
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Thanks man, I'll wait till I repot then. :joint:

I tried topping last time (actually tried fim) and screwed up on the female by not taking enough. The one that turned out male actually worked though. I am going to see how the lst goes and maybe top during that process ( maybe top the higher growth the let the lower catch up)
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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btt said:
Only 1 full watering in 10 days? Wow, you have great patience my friend. I would be scared they would die! Guess your soil holds water very well...
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haha, I don't know I kept checking with my finger and the top 1-2" was always moist...... maybe it was that I only had 40w of light on them for the first while that caused the soil to stay moist rather than evaporate? I think I'll be at 3-4 days now.
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btt

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They look great for 12 days! If only mine would look as good.. Is this just bagseed?
 
yeldarb

yeldarb

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DAY 15

So the plants were doing good and seemed to be needed water more frequently, so I figured that it was time to transplant to their final homes. Once again I am using the kitty litter containers with the holes drilled in the bottom. The square shape lets me use up more of the rubbermaid's confined space. I reused the pots from the last grow after washing them. I also put screws in along the top edge for when I began training.

The final soil I chose to use is:



Seems pretty good...doesn't have any added nutes...anyone know anything about it? I also added an extra 20% more perlite to the mix. (moistened before using in the transplant):



So here are the plants, showing them in their final minutes in their little pots:





Here is a pic showing the roots....good thing I choose to transplant, they are starting to get real rootbound. I loosened the rootball before transplant:





Right after transplant, showing size difference in pots:



Here they are back in the rubbermaid. I changed the lighting a little bit, I think it will provide better coverage:







And to finish, a size comparison to DAY 12:



 
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